Comey got caught between leaking assholes in the NY office & a promise he made to the Senate committee. If he didn't reveal the re-opening of the investigation to the Senate committee it would have leaked anyway & he'd have been a liar. He really had no choice.
I will say, however, that Trump firing him was extremely arrogant & stupid. It set off the whole Special Counsel investigation & he can't really stop it.
Mueller needs to be apolitical & to be seen as such to maintain credibility. You know, Joe Friday- "Just the facts, ma'am." He'll stay as far away from the election as he can to maintain that, rightfully so. It's in the interests of the people and of Justice.
In all honesty, I still say Comey fucked that whole thing up with his little October dud.
Mueller is doing the right thing by not dropping any bombs right before the election.
We can assume he'll find smoking guns and be pissed it's not out there to see, but there is a good possibility that he doesn't find something conclusive, and had it been out Trump would say he's vindicated and completely deflated D sails.
Worst case, Ds don't capture the house, Trump fires Mueller and Rs just look the other way.
Then we'd really be fucked
You need to cite Lynch & Yates to make that claim. We also need to specify that second guessing is easy & if Comey made mistakes they were honest ones.
None of that even matters in the context of the Special Counsel. Mueller doesn't have to make that choice. He's just doing his job, chasing down leads & indicting bad actors. He's also controlling the narrative, something Comey couldn't do. I'll tend to trust whatever evidence he unearths. If it means Trump's ass is in a sling, he'll hand that over to Congress. Anybody else just gets busted. And that's the way it should be.
Yea, you are correct. It is actually too late for two reasons. First, Trump has continued to indoctrinate his base that anything unfavorable is "fake news". Secondly, I think a lot of people like me, that would have loved to see something proven that would lead to impeachment, have become weary of the process and will question the validity of something that it took so long to discover.https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...-key-findings-in-his-trump-probe?srnd=premium
My worry is this- even 6 months ago this seemed like it would be the lifesaver. But today, we have completely abandoned any semblance of objective truth.
People follow their own respective political media diet. In effect, we have two different realities.
Today, Trump can entirely dismiss Mueller's report as fake. You know his base and Republican party will go along with it today.
So what now?
Moved from OT.
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The point was compuwiz1's hypocrisy. He cares now and believes Mueller shouldn't reveal anything before the election because it would most likely hurt his team, however he was silent about affecting the election when the info released hurt the other team.
Yea, you are correct. It is actually too late for two reasons. First, Trump has continued to indoctrinate his base that anything unfavorable is "fake news". Secondly, I think a lot of people like me, that would have loved to see something proven that would lead to impeachment, have become weary of the process and will question the validity of something that it took so long to discover.
Yea, you are correct. It is actually too late for two reasons. First, Trump has continued to indoctrinate his base that anything unfavorable is "fake news". Secondly, I think a lot of people like me, that would have loved to see something proven that would lead to impeachment, have become weary of the process and will question the validity of something that it took so long to discover.
Mueller is doing the right thing by not dropping any bombs right before the election.
Generally I agree, though it depends on how far you're going with that line of thinking. IMO the FBI investigation staff should do their jobs to the best of their ability and only conclude the investigation when all likely leads have been exhausted / concluded. No attempt should be made to rush things. But if there are charges to be brought in a mature manner, those should not wait for the mid-terms.
Just a small correction. Comey put himself in between a rock and hard place. Had he not commented or admitted there was an investigation in the first place he would never have had to release info about huma's laptop.
Pretty sure if it was bad, he’d release the report right before midterms
No way, He's only had a couple of "big fish" (Manafort & Cohen) recently talk, it's going to take time to link all they have told him to make sure it's correct. Nothing from Mueller himself about this being near the end of the investigation.Pretty sure if it was bad, he’d release the report right before midterms
Pretty sure if it was bad, he’d release the report right before midterms
Mueller is doing the right thing by not dropping any bombs right before the election.
Mueller needs to be apolitical & to be seen as such to maintain credibility. You know, Joe Friday- "Just the facts, ma'am." He'll stay as far away from the election as he can to maintain that, rightfully so. It's in the interests of the people and of Justice.
https://www.cnn.com/2016/10/28/poli...r-tells-senate-judiciary-committee/index.html
(CNN)Attorney General Loretta Lynch and Deputy Attorney General Sally Yates disagreed with FBI Director James Comey's decision to notify Congress about his bureau's review of emails potentially related to Hillary Clinton's personal server, law enforcement officials familiar with the discussion said.
I think this tweet below from him is very telling. The truth of the matter is that they weren't honest ones. He put out a letter with innuendo and a lack of facts about what was going on when he knows full well the media would jump on it. He didn't answer Reid begging him to expose the explosive national security threat. He somehow thinks a very low chance of a criminal transgression of mishandling classified material sliding by is somehow "catastrophic" (line of succession is okay in this instance!), yet a foreign intelligence operation quid pro quo with Donnie's campaign somehow isn't? Why? He didn't like Clinton or Democrats! This will go down as one of the greatest intelligence operations in history with the America election stolen by the KGB and a giant con man installed as their puppet. Months and months, yet the FBI couldn't even protect us from it, while people on Twitter knew what was going on.
"Democrats, please, please don’t lose your minds and rush to the socialist left. This president and his Republican Party are counting on you to do exactly that. America’s great middle wants sensible, balanced, ethical leadership." -- Comey
If Democrats can't win either House, Mueller will look incredibly foolish. There is possibly a 20% chance of this happening.
It was virtually 100% likely that they were just duplicates. The letter is bullshit. Hillary quickly asked for all the facts on the matter as a result, and many Democrats complained about the framing.So, there's second hand rumor that Lynch & Yates disagreed with Comey. Pfft.
WTF innuendo do you think you're talking about? Here's the letter-
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/10/28/us/politics/fbi-letter.html
Mueller will look good no matter who's in power if he just keeps doing his job, filing airtight indictments & locking up miscreants. Whatever report he issues when he's done obviously cannot be suppressed.
If there is solid evidence against Trump or the republican party, shouldn't the voters see it before making a choice?There should be no findings released before the mid-terms just as there shouldn't have been any late October shens in 2016...
That's false. The OIG made a well publicized security referral to the FBI in July 2015-
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillary_Clinton_email_controversy#July_2015_–_Security_referral
If there is solid evidence against Trump or the republican party, shouldn't the voters see it before making a choice?
I doubt he has it locked up by now, Manafort has been to see Mueller 9 times in the last month. It will take time to connect all the dots, I don't want him to jump the gun and I don't think he will as long as Rosenstein is in place.If there is solid evidence against Trump or the republican party, shouldn't the voters see it before making a choice?
Mueller's circling Stone now, much to my delight.No way, He's only had a couple of "big fish" (Manafort & Cohen) recently talk, it's going to take time to link all they have told him to make sure it's correct. Nothing from Mueller himself about this being near the end of the investigation.
