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Mueller ready to deliver key findings - too late now?

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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...-key-findings-in-his-trump-probe?srnd=premium

My worry is this- even 6 months ago this seemed like it would be the lifesaver. But today, we have completely abandoned any semblance of objective truth.

People follow their own respective political media diet. In effect, we have two different realities.

Today, Trump can entirely dismiss Mueller's report as fake. You know his base and Republican party will go along with it today.

So what now?

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If I post now here and it gets move to get credit for a 2 post? But seriously it's not too late in fact it's just about perfect timing imo. And if the democrats take the house we'll hopefully get some oversight.
 
Thebobo said:
If I post now here and it gets move to get credit for a 2 post? But seriously it's not too late in fact it's just about perfect timing imo. And if the democrats take the house we'll hopefully get some oversight.
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Again, it seems like the trump base has been emboldened. Even trump himself seems more sure of himself with the support of his team compared to beginning of his presidency.
 
Probably not too late. Didn't Comey come out with the Clinton thing like a week before the 2016 election? I think that swung a lot of voters.
 
It’s important to note that this report almost certainly originated from Trump’s lawyers, Giuliani most likely, and is probably a lie.

I mean how many times have we heard from them that Mueller was almost done?
 
Fucking lame. It's obvious this is only being done either because of Rosentein or both him and Mueller due to being Republicans. The guideline is fucking irrelevant when we have a dangerous and complicit party in power.
 
It was always going to wait until after the November midterms. No way Mueller was going to start a constitutional crisis in the run up to a pivotal election. After November is not too late. Of course, I don't know for certain what the findings will be, but I think it's reasonable to anticipate them to be significant and quite damning for Trump, although possibly not smoking gun overt partnership directly tied to Trump himself. If the investigation gets shut down prematurely or if the findings don't result in impeachment proceedings / removal via the 25th / or if somehow are successfully kept out of public view, then this will be a failing entirely of our way of government and no longer a potentially recoverable situation. Even if Republicans remain in control of Congress, I would count such acts as treasonous and failure of our system of government.

I think more likely would be an incomplete investigation without overt collusion that is sufficiently attacked to avoid concluding against Trump but involves a whole lot of shady shit that shouldn't be ignored (e.g. Kavanaugh confirmation).

We'll see how aggressive they will be after the midterms in trying to suppress or prematurely end the investigation. I have the idea that there are many Republicans at the ready to turn on Caesar when a favorable opportunity arrives. I have less confidence that such a favorable opportunity will actually occur. We'll see. I think there is a growing capacity for Republicans to assert themselves independent of Trump. Kavanaugh was a big win for energizing them without it being about Trump (even though it wasn't at odds with Trump, and some of the scariest implications are directly pertinent to Trump). The comments toward Saudi Arabia lately are certainly making things harder for Trump to hold his position, but I'm not sure if there is any bite to go along with this bark.
 
interchange said:
It was always going to wait until after the November midterms. No way Mueller was going to start a constitutional crisis in the run up to a pivotal election. After November is not too late.
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Republicans would get obliterated with indictments of Jr., Kushner, Prince, and Stone or a partial report on obstruction. They can't fire Rosenstein before the election and pull other shit so close to the election without screwing themselves. If Mueller wants to wait, Republicans have about a similar chance to keep both Houses as Donnie did for president in 2016. They'll look really stupid then.
 
One only has to see how Republicans in Congress treated the Nunez memo, the FBI IG report, and Ford's testimony to understand that whatever comes out in the Mueller report is meaningless to them. They've already doubled down and tripled down on Trump and there's no going back. Any Republicans left in Congress after the midterms will be firmly hitching their wagons to Trump and riding him through 2020 and beyond.
 
UNCjigga said:
One only has to see how Republicans in Congress treated the Nunez memo, the FBI IG report, and Ford's testimony to understand that whatever comes out in the Mueller report is meaningless to them. They've already doubled down and tripled down on Trump and there's no going back. Any Republicans left in Congress after the midterms will be firmly hitching their wagons to Trump and riding him through 2020 and beyond.
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This has always been my biggest fear and it's only grown as time has gone by - that Mueller will issue a damning report and Republicans will ignore it.
 
Maxima1 said:
Republicans would get obliterated with indictments of Jr., Kushner, Prince, and Stone or a partial report on obstruction. They can't fire Rosenstein before the election and pull other shit so close to the election without screwing themselves. If Mueller wants to wait, Republicans have about a similar chance to keep both Houses as Donnie did for president in 2016. They'll look really stupid then.
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How’s that investigation into how Russian money that was pumped into the NRA to support Republican candidates going?
 
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There should be no findings released before the mid-terms just as there shouldn't have been any late October shens in 2016...
 
UNCjigga said:
One only has to see how Republicans in Congress treated the Nunez memo, the FBI IG report, and Ford's testimony to understand that whatever comes out in the Mueller report is meaningless to them. They've already doubled down and tripled down on Trump and there's no going back. Any Republicans left in Congress after the midterms will be firmly hitching their wagons to Trump and riding him through 2020 and beyond.
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The psychosis has become full blown.
hal2kilo said:
Vote!!!!!
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The last thing conservatives should do is vote. Conservatives always vote to 'fuck you' and that always turns out to be fuck everybody including themselves.
 
Moonbeam said:
The psychosis has become full blown.

The last thing conservatives should do is vote. Conservatives always vote to 'fuck you' and that always turns out to be fuck everybody including themselves.
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That was not for you. And, of course I meant for the liberals/Dems to vote.

Edit: Dems need to wake up and realize elections do have consequences.
 
hal2kilo said:
That was not for you. And, of course I meant for the liberals/Dems to vote.

Edit: Dems need to wake up and realize elections do have consequences.
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The right wing is in full psychosis and I know what you meant, but, just saying the decent thing is for conservatives to stay home.
 
It's never too late to find President Trump and his administration innocent of any election collusion/conspiracy with Russia and innocent of any obstruction of justice. It was obvious a year ago.
 
imported_tajmahal said:
It's never too late to find President Trump and his administration innocent of any election collusion/conspiracy with Russia and innocent of any obstruction of justice. It was obvious a year ago.
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Your claim is a little vague but I’ll say it again. For a bunch of guys that claim to know no Russians, they sure seem to know a lot of Russians.
Plus just look at BENGHAZI!!!!
I’m all for keeping this running until the election
 
imported_tajmahal said:
It's never too late to find President Trump and his administration innocent of any election collusion/conspiracy with Russia and innocent of any obstruction of justice. It was obvious a year ago.
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Was that the year the meaning of obvious became what the conservative brain defect feels? Certainly you realize that what is obvious to you is what your cult tells you is. You live in an alternate reality.
 
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