Mrs. Comrade Clinton has spoken.... businesses don't create jobs... must be the govt

rudder

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So looking at small businesses in the country.... about 50% of the population works for a small business. Overall the private sector employees 90% of Americans. Yet comrade Hillary thinks businesses do not create jobs.

I guess this makes sense because entrepreneurs have not built any businesses... so how could these same people employ anyone. We built Apple. We built Boeing. We built Google.

http://onpolitics.usatoday.com/2014/10/25/hillary-clinton-its-not-businesses-that-create-jobs/

Please don't let this nonsense anywhere near the White House.
 

JEDIYoda

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So looking at small businesses in the country.... about 50% of the population works for a small business. Overall the private sector employees 90% of Americans. Yet comrade Hillary thinks businesses do not create jobs.

I guess this makes sense because entrepreneurs have not built any businesses... so how could these same people employ anyone. We built Apple. We built Boeing. We built Google.

http://onpolitics.usatoday.com/2014/...t-create-jobs/

Please don't let this nonsense anywhere near the White House.
you are purposely being the way you are....the fact are plain that businesses do not create jobs....or you have no understanding of what Mrs. Clinton said...
 

Matt1970

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I suppose if your final goal is to have everyone work for the government, this is how you would sell it.
 

Matt1970

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you are purposely being the way you are....the fact are plain that businesses do not create jobs....or you have no understanding of what Mrs. Clinton said...

LOL, that's hilarious. I am curious as to who you think it is that creates the jobs then?
 

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CBD alert. Cleanup on aisle two. A customer's right Amygdala has gone in to hyper-mode and is spewing crap all over the place. It's the usual...Hillary is hiding under the beds in the matrass section.
 

Zaap

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LOL, that's hilarious. I am curious as to who you think it is that creates the jobs then?

I'm guessing he's another who thinks sheer demand creates jobs.

Which of course explains full employment in places around the world where demand for things like a simple crust of bread or some halfway clean water is off the charts high.

Oh wait, scratch that, jobs are nowhere to be found in those places, despite sky-high demand for literally *everything*. I guess because people don't really want things badly enough- they need spoiled western fat asses to teach them about demand.

Leftists are incredibly stupid when it comes to economics and giving credit to anything but their beloved government; there's just no getting around it.
 

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I'm guessing he's another who thinks sheer demand creates jobs.

Which of course explains full employment in places around the world where demand for things like a simple crust of bread or some halfway clean water is off the charts high.

Oh wait, scratch that, jobs are nowhere to be found in those places, despite sky-high demand for literally *everything*. I guess because people don't really want things badly enough- they need spoiled western fat asses to teach them about demand.

Leftists are incredibly stupid when it comes to economics and giving credit to anything but their beloved government; there's just no getting around it.

It's always interesting to me that despite having been probably wrong on economic policy for years now that conservatives continue to simply declare they are right.

I guess that's why we have runaway inflation, soaring bond prices, and why countries that cut spending didn't have their economies tank.

The real mystery is why conservatives haven't decided to re-examine their ideology. I guess ideology is more important than being right. To each their own?
 

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:hmm:

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Matt1970

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It's always interesting to me that despite having been probably wrong on economic policy for years now that conservatives continue to simply declare they are right.

I guess that's why we have runaway inflation, soaring bond prices, and why countries that cut spending didn't have their economies tank.

The real mystery is why conservatives haven't decided to re-examine their ideology. I guess ideology is more important than being right. To each their own?

Hillary Clinton says businesses and corporations don't create jobs and you think it's the conservatives that are so wrong on economics?

And here I wasted $10 at the comedy club the other night when I could have just come here for my laughs.
 

fskimospy

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Hillary Clinton says businesses and corporations don't create jobs and you think it's the conservatives that are so wrong on economic policy?

And here I wasted $10 at the comedy club the other night when I could have just come here for my laughs.

Look at every industrialized country on earth and look at their economic policies in this recession. You will notice a pretty stark trend where the more conservative their response was, the worse they did.

You'll notice all the other predictions of bond prices, inflation, etc, etc. wrong, wrong, wrong. Doesn't that make you think your understanding might be wrong?

I couldn't care less what Hillary says in a speech.
 

Zaap

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It's always interesting to me that despite having been probably wrong on economic policy for years now that conservatives continue to simply declare they are right.

I guess that's why we have runaway inflation, soaring bond prices, and why countries that cut spending didn't have their economies tank.

The real mystery is why conservatives haven't decided to re-examine their ideology. I guess ideology is more important than being right. To each their own?
What's hilarious is your so ignorant and steeped in bullshit you actually think job creation is a liberal vs. conservative thing... because you ACTUALLY DO believe that its political hacks like Hilary creating jobs!

You're too blind and stupid to even see it. In your mind, political hack you agree with= job creation. Political hack you don't agree with= no job creation! (It would of course NEVER in a million years cross your mind that none of your R vs D hacks you love vs. hacks you hate has a thing to do with it.)

Too funny!
 

Matt1970

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Look at every industrialized country on earth and look at their economic policies in this recession. You will notice a pretty stark trend where the more conservative their response was, the worse they did.

You'll notice all the other predictions of bond prices, inflation, etc, etc. wrong, wrong, wrong. Doesn't that make you think your understanding might be wrong?

I couldn't care less what Hillary says in a speech.

Irrelevant because none of those nations have the same size population and same economy we do? We have states bigger than most of the countries you keep comparing us to. I suppose after Obama nobody puts a lot of value in what someone says.
 

fskimospy

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What's hilarious is your so ignorant and steeped in bullshit you actually think job creation is a liberal vs. conservative thing... because you ACTUALLY DO believe that its political hacks like Hilary creating jobs!

You're too blind and stupid to even see it. In your mind, political hack you agree with= job creation. Political hack you don't agree with= no job creation! (It would of course NEVER in a million years cross your mind that none of your R vs D hacks you love vs. hacks you hate has a thing to do with it.)

Too funny!

This post makes no sense. I don't care what party does it, there are specific policies that are correlated with improved economic performance. Right now the democrats are pushing those.

It's also funny that you made a post calling leftists "idiots" and then tried to say it's not about liberal or conservative stuff. You wrote those posts only a few minutes apart, did you forget what you wrote that quickly?
 

fskimospy

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Irrelevant because none of those nations have the same size population and same economy we do? We have states bigger than most of the countries you keep comparing us to. I suppose after Obama nobody puts a lot of value in what someone says.

Haha, very convenient. When the evidence is against you just declare all evidence inadmissible.

Come on man, you can break out of the bubble.
 

ivwshane

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Is this another case of righties not understanding context? The last time Obama said something similar the response from the right was hilarious!
 

Matt1970

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Is this another case of righties not understanding context? The last time Obama said something similar the response from the right was hilarious!

This is not the bridge thing again, she pretty much meant what she said.
 

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I'm guessing he's another who thinks sheer demand creates jobs.

Which of course explains full employment in places around the world where demand for things like a simple crust of bread or some halfway clean water is off the charts high.

Oh wait, scratch that, jobs are nowhere to be found in those places, despite sky-high demand for literally *everything*. I guess because people don't really want things badly enough- they need spoiled western fat asses to teach them about demand.

Leftists are incredibly stupid when it comes to economics and giving credit to anything but their beloved government; there's just no getting around it.

Those same countries you espouse about have no red tape when it comes to starting and running a business. Where are the "jerbs"!?

EDIT: Income and business tax rates are probably non-existent to boot.
 

rudder

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I'm guessing he's another who thinks sheer demand creates jobs.

Which of course explains full employment in places around the world where demand for things like a simple crust of bread or some halfway clean water is off the charts high.

Oh wait, scratch that, jobs are nowhere to be found in those places, despite sky-high demand for literally *everything*. I guess because people don't really want things badly enough- they need spoiled western fat asses to teach them about demand.

Leftists are incredibly stupid when it comes to economics and giving credit to anything but their beloved government; there's just no getting around it.

all those places that have high demands for a simple crust of bread and halfway clean water have fully functional governments free from graft and corruption. So it must be something else that is causing the problem then.
 
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rudder

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you are purposely being the way you are....the fact are plain that businesses do not create jobs....or you have no understanding of what Mrs. Clinton said...

Your post explains why the economy is still in the crappers. It's all about the job bills that are not coming out of congress!!!!!

I mean if you give a company a tax break to hire people... Unemployment will be at 2%. Just think I of the thousands a company will save by hiring 100 people. Forget the idiotic notion that a company will hire people when there is a need... I.e., growth and expansion. Not to get a $8,000 tax break when taking on tens of thousands of new expenses associated with a new employee.
 

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Governments create an environment in which businesses can prosper. It isn't one or the other that pulls all the weight, its the combination of both that stimulates job growth.
 

Matt1970

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Governments create an environment in which businesses can prosper. It isn't one or the other that pulls all the weight, its the combination of both that stimulates job growth.

In other words a government gets out of the way enough to let a business do what it does to make money but not so much that it takes advantage of people. That being said it's still the business that creates the jobs and the wealth.
 

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We wouldn't want Clintons anywhere near the white house, because things were so terrible last time around :D
 

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I guess Hillary Clinton was trying to be funny if she really said what the OP said she did.

honestly, i 'd rather have another 20 years of obama than to have hillary in power. I'd want Obama to invite the clintons to the white house, but damn she has never been level-headed. I just wish Obama could smoothly lay off more remnants of the Bush admin.

Perhaps I am different from Hillary Clinton because 1) I took for first time a political science course back in summer '06; starting out skeptical of the State; 2) I came to idolize Thomas Jefferson in the second semester i took political science courses which was fall '06. And i might vote for her just to make our friend bill clinton happy, if my vote really still matters to him. But i don't want him or her to get hurt or sick. Nor do i want anyone else to get hurt or sick at least not by my hands

IOW, when my dad introduced me to Dr. Paul the first time in like march 07, i became a pure libertarian. Since then i have realized mainly that God, the market, individual liberty and the people with just a little bit of centralization will take care of it.
 

waggy

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Governments create an environment in which businesses can prosper. It isn't one or the other that pulls all the weight, its the combination of both that stimulates job growth.

i disagree. even without governments we would have business prosper. The government laid the infrastructure for all it's citizens. Though with the regulations it tries to make business fair for all (lol).

While she is NOT right she is not wrong either. but she was a idiot for phrasing it that way.