MOZILLA---OPERA---PHOENIX

[Sid59]

Originally posted by: amdwolfman
Well now I'm thoroghly confused here,,,Pheonix is part of mozilla ? Ok,,,now,where do I download this Pheonix and pls tell me what VER. I should download.. and where,,thx alot

Phoenix

 

[Soybomb]

Originally posted by: VBboy
Netscape is bloatware because it's over 20 MB _compressed_, last time I checked. IE engine is indeed integrated into Windows, but it's still only several megabytes in size. I never said Opera was bloatware - 5 MB or so!

Netscape should do a better job dynamically loading the right DLLs when Java is activated, for example, just like IE does. MS Word starts up in 2 seconds on my PC, but as you need additional features, they are invoked dynamically.

Perhaps the IE executable is only a couple megs, but the rest of is integrated into the os and would be difficult if not impossible to measure. I believe the last time at work when I ran windowsupdate on a comptuer the new IE package was like 60 megs or something.

 

[KingNothing]

Give Crazy Browser a try sometime. It uses the IE engine (read: compatibility) but has tabbed browsing, popup blocking, etc. Very nice. Why use Mozilla/Phoenix/whatever when you have Crazy Browser?

 

[nord1899]

Originally posted by: KingNothing
Give Crazy Browser a try sometime. It uses the IE engine (read: compatibility) but has tabbed browsing, popup blocking, etc. Very nice. Why use Mozilla/Phoenix/whatever when you have Crazy Browser?

Maybe I like Mozilla better? Maybe I want to support something other than MS? Maybe I still think IE has some nasty holes in it that Crazy Browser probably still has?

 

[LiekOMG]

Phoenix is great! Sure, it has its fair share of bugs and things that don't work. But for its tiny file size, it really works well. Its fast (renders pages fast, and starts up fast), 99% stable, has tabbed browsing, popup blocking, and supports extensions and skinning. I've been using Phoenix for the past month and i've been very happy.

Edit: Oh yeah, a few other things I forgot. When I tell Phoenix to maximize, it STAYS maximized, unlike IE which has a mind of its own. Also it doesn't have any of that ActiveX crap which keeps prompting me to download something or another when I browse pages. And i've yet to find a webpage that doesn't work.

 

[amdwolfman]

How do I use it as my browser????

And what do I fvckin mean by that???,,this is what I mean. Where is it?,,it says would i like to have it for my default browser,,well fvck yea i do. But how the fvck does it do that...Where the fvck is it?...
I can fvckin klik the fvckin blue IE ( E ) on the bar on the bottom and IE will come up..Does PHEONIX not have a shortcut icon or what?

 

[LiekOMG]

Originally posted by: amdwolfman
How do I use it as my browser????

And what do I fvckin mean by that???,,this is what I mean. Where is it?,,it says would i like to have it for my default browser,,well fvck yea i do. But how the fvck does it do that...Where the fvck is it?...
I can fvckin klik the fvckin blue IE ( E ) on the bar on the bottom and IE will come up..Does PHEONIX not have a shortcut icon or what?

Umm, your IE shortcuts are still pointing to iexplore.exe. You need to change those and point them to pheonix. Or make new short cuts. Jeez!

 

[MainFramed]

OPERA is by far the best well MOZILLA is pretty good to....


you should make a poll...who likes which the best.

 

[kermalou]

use to use mozilla, now because of this thread been using Phoenix for 20 min and loving it

 

[Sid59]

Originally posted by: kermalou
use to use mozilla, now because of this thread been using Phoenix for 20 min and loving it

=) .. i love phoenix

 

[Harvey]

Originally posted by: Ameesh
cons: they dont render pages as well as IE does.

Sorry to disagree. I use IE 5.5, NS 6.23 and NS 4.79. On most sites that aren't IE specific, I think NS renders pages better. In fact, where it works, I think NS 4.79 usually looks best of all of them.

This isn't 100% true on all sites, but overall, I like NS best. I don't have Mozilla installed, but from what I've seen, I think it looks about the same as NS.

I don't like the tabs in NS 7 because they do the same thing as the buttons at the bottom of the screen in other browsers, and they waste more screen space below the upper bars. The worst part is, you can't turn them off.

 

[alm4rr]

mozilla does not equal netscape navigator/communicator

NS is a bastardized version. AOL owns netscape, so it gets [BY DEFAULT] a lotta stuff if you do a noob install.
It puts AOL links all over the place, too.


Mozilla is free of all that crap.
Phoenix is just the browser part and doesnt have the packaging of chat/irc, email, newsgroups that can come with Mozilla

I use mozila 1.1 and I havent had a problem.

 

[Nothinman]

Mozilla (and all it's derivitives like Phoenix) have client-side CSS. You can do anything you can do with normal CSS and then some, for instance I block ads and flash animations with it. But you can apply any sort of look and feel you want to any web page you want.

Mozilla's popup blocker is smart enough to stop all the popups you don't want, but allows all the ones you need. I have never had to disable the popup blocker to get a site to function.

youre in lala land if you think the internet is a standards compliant place

I browse every day with the Gecko rendering engine and the number of sites that I find that are unusable is nearly zero. Some look a little ugly, but even they're rare. Hell even MS fixed their knowledge base which used to feed broken CSS to non-IE browsers that would make it unreadable (although this was fixable with client-side CSS).