MOZILLA---OPERA---PHOENIX

[amdwolfman]

I would like to here all your thots about thesebrowsers. Good points,,bad points. If you had to choose which one you would use.

Pro's --Cons on these browsers pls.

 

[Ameesh]

cons: they dont render pages as well as IE does.

 

[thirtythree]

This might be helpful .. in case you didn't see it.

 

[Electrode]

Originally posted by: Ameesh
cons: they dont render pages as well as IE does.
^
non-standards-compliant

 

[Ameesh]

Originally posted by: Electrode

Originally posted by: Ameesh
cons: they dont render pages as well as IE does.
                    ^
          non-stantards-compliant

youre in lala land if you think the internet is a standards compliant place

 

[notfred]

Pro: pop-up blocking.

 

[SnapIT]

Phoenix user, it's available to all the OS's i use, it's small, fast and has ever function from Mozilla that i like... it's built around the same core...

 

[SnapIT]

Originally posted by: Ameesh

Originally posted by: Electrode

Originally posted by: Ameesh
cons: they dont render pages as well as IE does.
                    ^
          non-stantards-compliant

youre in lala land if you think the internet is a standards compliant place

too bad IE isn't available for any good os...

 

[Sid59]

i also use Phoenix. It's small (runs from it's own folder, no install) and fast.

 

[Adul]

i use mozilla, but i like phoenix has well.

 

[VBboy]

How about using Google to find some reviews? You can get more reliable information that way, and in much less time, too.

P.S. Mozilla finally works Ok, but is bloatware.

 

[SnapIT]

Originally posted by: VBboy
How about using Google to find some reviews? You can get more reliable information that way, and in much less time, too.

P.S. Mozilla finally works Ok, but is bloatware.

bloatware compared to what?

 

[Sid59]

Originally posted by: SnapIT

Originally posted by: VBboy
How about using Google to find some reviews? You can get more reliable information that way, and in much less time, too.

P.S. Mozilla finally works Ok, but is bloatware.

bloatware compared to what?

it's bloatware because it doesn;t open INSTANTLY like IE. Oh yeah, it's also bloatware because the engine behing Mozilla is NOT intertgrated into windows and claiming to be an intergral part of the operating system.


Take away IE's intergration into windows and put it toe-toe with Mozilla/Phoenix ... Mozilla/Phoenix with it's grand options blows smoke to IE.

 

[Gooberlx2]

Wow! I just tried Phoenix and must say I'm impressed.

How about using Google to find some reviews? You can get more reliable information that way, and in much less time, too.

Pish-posh! Nothing is more reliable than an ATOTers uninformed opinion!!!

 

[VBboy]

Netscape is bloatware because it's over 20 MB _compressed_, last time I checked. IE engine is indeed integrated into Windows, but it's still only several megabytes in size. I never said Opera was bloatware - 5 MB or so!

Netscape should do a better job dynamically loading the right DLLs when Java is activated, for example, just like IE does. MS Word starts up in 2 seconds on my PC, but as you need additional features, they are invoked dynamically.

 

[ndee]

Originally posted by: VBboy
Netscape is bloatware because it's over 20 MB _compressed_, last time I checked. IE engine is indeed integrated into Windows, but it's still only several megabytes in size. I never said Opera was bloatware - 5 MB or so!

Netscape should do a better job dynamically loading the right DLLs when Java is activated, for example, just like IE does. MS Word starts up in 2 seconds on my PC, but as you need additional features, they are invoked dynamically.

Mozilla != Netscape

 

[ndee]

Wow, just installed Phoenix and I have to say it's really blazing fast!

 

[Confused]

I downloaded/installed Phoenix on all my computers about 3 days ago. Blazingly fast, and there's only been 2 websites (linked here from OT) that haven't worked properly, and i've had to use IE for.

Other than that, I like it, especially the tabbed browsing


Confused

 

[Luden]

Phoenix rocks. (and the new avatars scare me).

 

[SnapIT]

Originally posted by: VBboy
Netscape is bloatware because it's over 20 MB _compressed_, last time I checked. IE engine is indeed integrated into Windows, but it's still only several megabytes in size. I never said Opera was bloatware - 5 MB or so!

Netscape should do a better job dynamically loading the right DLLs when Java is activated, for example, just like IE does. MS Word starts up in 2 seconds on my PC, but as you need additional features, they are invoked dynamically.

You said that mozilla is bloatware, it's not 20meg compressed, it's 11...

Compare that size to how big IE6 is with the same options...

Mozilla is still bigger than phoenix which uses the same engine and has many of the features...

So yes, there are smaller browsers out there, but bloatware it is not...

 

[SnapIT]

Originally posted by: Sid59

Originally posted by: SnapIT

Originally posted by: VBboy
How about using Google to find some reviews? You can get more reliable information that way, and in much less time, too.

P.S. Mozilla finally works Ok, but is bloatware.

bloatware compared to what?

it's bloatware because it doesn;t open INSTANTLY like IE. Oh yeah, it's also bloatware because the engine behing Mozilla is NOT intertgrated into windows and claiming to be an intergral part of the operating system.


Take away IE's intergration into windows and put it toe-toe with Mozilla/Phoenix ... Mozilla/Phoenix with it's grand options blows smoke to IE.

IE doesn't open anything in Linux or xBSD so there isn't much of a choice if you aren't running windows...

 

[SnapIT]

Originally posted by: Confused
I downloaded/installed Phoenix on all my computers about 3 days ago. Blazingly fast, and there's only been 2 websites (linked here from OT) that haven't worked properly, and i've had to use IE for.

Other than that, I like it, especially the tabbed browsing


Confused

If you care about the looks, it's skinnable just like mozilla, you can use the same skins...

 

[amdwolfman]

How about using Google to find some reviews? You can get more reliable information that way, and in much less time, too.



Pish-posh! Nothing is more reliable than an ATOTers uninformed opinion!!!


Yep,,,I must agree on that Statement.
At least you know where they are if a bad recommendation comes from.

LouisvilleSlugger Is my pal!!!!






Ok,,I'm gonna go For Phoenix,,,,but it has a beta ver. 7 out now,,which should I d/l ?

 

[amdwolfman]

Well now I'm thoroghly confused here,,,Pheonix is part of mozilla ? Ok,,,now,where do I download this Pheonix and pls tell me what VER. I should download.. and where,,thx alot

 

[nord1899]

Phoenix and Mozilla both use the same rendering engine to display pages. But Phoenix is kind of like a lite version of Mozilla. So in essence they are the same thing, as they have the same core functionality. Mozilla adds a bunch of more stuff which some people consider bloatware.

I use Mozilla 1.2.1 and love it. Tabbed browsing (set to middle click and load in background, great for loading up a bunch of threads at ATOT). Pop-up killer. Nice add-ins from Mozdev.org like gestures (Opera has it, Black & White has it). Runs on multiple platforms. Is much more standards complient than IE. Stupid things like Gator auto-installs don't happen under Mozilla.

Also, I set my Mozilla install to not include Flash so I don't get bothered by those annoying ads. If I want Flash, I can quickly go over to IE.