oh its so easy to say if you don't like the the country's policies, then move. This country is great because dissenting voices can be heard and not prosecuted. If you don't like that people actually speak up for their beliefs why don't you move out of the country because it is an integral part of why a lot of people live here.
Just got off the phone with Senator Cornyn's office. I called the first time and it was busy. The second time and the punk hung up on me as soon as I said what i'm calling about
. I called a third time, and they didn't even answer 'senator's cornyn's office' some girl took my message and is said:"i don't appreciate being hung up on by one of your interns, considering that i'm paying YOUR salary."
She said "sorry, sir, how can i help you?"
I said "I'd like to express my support for the current anti-war campaign"
she said "sure, what is it you would like to say"
I told her my bit, and she took down my name and county that i reside in, and message for senator cornyn. doubt he will get it but i hope it helps even a bit.
Originally posted by: TheShiz
Originally posted by: BigJelly
You should call because was has solved so few problems like.....
Hitler and the Nazis
Mussolini and the fascists
the Japanese
slavery
repression
totalitarianism
freedom from Britian for Americans
freedome for Kuiaties from Iraqies
saved Frenches @ss twice
communism
genocide
the Holocaust
yeah war is not the answerThen in your world the Nazis are free to kill Jews and anyone else they consider "undesirible" (homosexuals, gypsies, slavs, mentally challeged and physically handicaped) and everyone is repressed. Guess war has SOLVED major problems.
PS just for the record SherEPunjab how would YOU solve the problem. (UN inspections dont work and we proved that sop what would you do--besides dodge the question.)
how can you compare these things with a straight face, it is not the same thing. Please tell me how the United States helped to systematically slaughter over 200,000 East Timorese from 1975-1999, oh, you probably don't know anything about that.
how can you compare these things with a straight face, it is not the same thing. Please tell me how the Iraqies systematically slaughtered the Kurds and gased its own people, oh, you probably don't know anything about that <------wow that come back took about 10 seconds to make and just as vaild as yours
TheShiz dodged the question so here ill put it in CAPS:
GIVEN THAT THE UN INSPECTIONS DONT WORK BECAUSE OF SADAM'S RESISTANCE, HOW WOULD YOU SOLVE THE PROBLEM?
Originally posted by: BigJelly
You should call because was has solved so few problems like.....
Hitler and the Nazis
Mussolini and the fascists
the Japanese
slavery
repression
totalitarianism
freedom from Britian for Americans
freedome for Kuiaties from Iraqies
saved Frenches @ss twice
communism
genocide
the Holocaust
yeah war is not the answerThen in your world the Nazis are free to kill Jews and anyone else they consider "undesirible" (homosexuals, gypsies, slavs, mentally challeged and physically handicaped) and everyone is repressed. Guess war has SOLVED major problems.
PS just for the record SherEPunjab how would YOU solve the problem. (UN inspections dont work and we proved that so what would you do--besides dodge the question.)
prove what you wrote in bold above first. then we'll talk.
True. only Congress can "declare" war.
But if it's not "declared" a war, then they have nothing to do with it.
Bush can send whatever he wants to Iraq with or without Congress' approval.
Actually, it's kinda sad that our Constitution is being circumvented by the Executive branch
and has been since World War II.
But if it's not "declared" a war, then they have nothing to do with it.
Bush can send whatever he wants to Iraq with or without Congress' approval.
Actually, it's kinda sad that our Constitution is being circumvented by the Executive branch
and has been since World War II.
Originally posted by: BigJelly
Originally posted by: TheShiz
Originally posted by: BigJelly
You should call because was has solved so few problems like.....
Hitler and the Nazis
Mussolini and the fascists
the Japanese
slavery
repression
totalitarianism
freedom from Britian for Americans
freedome for Kuiaties from Iraqies
saved Frenches @ss twice
communism
genocide
the Holocaust
yeah war is not the answerThen in your world the Nazis are free to kill Jews and anyone else they consider "undesirible" (homosexuals, gypsies, slavs, mentally challeged and physically handicaped) and everyone is repressed. Guess war has SOLVED major problems.
PS just for the record SherEPunjab how would YOU solve the problem. (UN inspections dont work and we proved that sop what would you do--besides dodge the question.)
how can you compare these things with a straight face, it is not the same thing. Please tell me how the United States helped to systematically slaughter over 200,000 East Timorese from 1975-1999, oh, you probably don't know anything about that.
how can you compare these things with a straight face, it is not the same thing. Please tell me how the Iraqies systematically slaughtered the Kurds and gased its own people, oh, you probably don't know anything about that <------wow that come back took about 10 seconds to make and just as vaild as yours
TheShiz dodged the question so here ill put it in CAPS:
GIVEN THAT THE UN INSPECTIONS DONT WORK BECAUSE OF SADAM'S RESISTANCE, HOW WOULD YOU SOLVE THE PROBLEM?
we supported iraq when they gassed the kurds!
I care. But i believe that each person serves a purpose. I'm really good at making money, so I'm a businessman. Others are really good at political activism, so they are on the streets getting word out. To each his own. I'll do what i can and they'll do what they can. I have more financial resources, and my time is better spent making money, so thats what I do. They have lots of idle time, so they can afford to fly to washington, get a stick and a posterboard and make circles around Pennslyvania avenue. To each his own. In spirit we are unified.
anyway, i would let other countries pay for triple the inspectors, what could it hurt? and we could see if some progress could be made with more inspectors in there.
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LOL That's like: I'm good at money so I'm going to make money and drive a nice car and live in a nice house. Since you suck at making money but care more about the future of the world than I do that's a good thing for you to do with your time.
Now, if on the other hand you take your money making skills and sink them into the coffers of the political activists well I can see that, but making money and being an activist are not mutually exclusive.
No, I donate money. as of now i haven't donated sh*t to this campaign, but i donate quite a bit to charities and help with developing nations. i guess if someone asked me to donate, and their org. checks out, i would donate for this cause as well.
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No it's like this:
You have 5 people watching a bull and it's taking a dump. It's bullsh*ting.
Now you have 15 people watching a bull taking a dump. What's the difference? It's still bullsh*ting.
If inspectors find WMD in Iraq iraq won't give them up anyway. They'll merely kick out inspectors the second the inspectors happen to pull up to the gates of a site that has WMD.
do you seriously see an immediate threat from Saddam? are you afraid of 3rd world countries? why do you want this war? because with saddam out do you think YOU will be safer? I am just wondering what people's true reasons for wanting war are. What do YOU gain?
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Personally I don't see much to gain although it's always nice to liberate an oppressed people.
But that brings me back to my original question. Since inspections have clearly failed and he is in breach of them is it worth attacking Iraq based on that? Most members in the UN opposed to war even say they could see it happening as a last resort. Well that last resort is here. If you believe that war is a last resort to deal with Iraq then you agree with attacking Iraq now in my opinion because that last resort has been met. Nothing else works. If you don't believe it's worth attacking Iraq as a last resort well then that's a different opinion.
But trying to make it as if it hinges on failed inspections is silly.
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