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zinfamous

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Save the Mueller probe from what?

I have not seen where anyone has attempted to stop the Mueller Probe.

Well, other than the democrats speculating on nothing...

Look kid, the world is too complicated for you now. Best you just stop worrying about it and commenting on it.
 

BUTCH1

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You mean by putting a stooge in place who as already stated Mueller probe is invalid and already listed ways to shut it down?

I guess nothing to see there? /s (because you need it)
Yup, this, the normal process if the AG suddenly quits, (or is told to quit or be fired), would be to replace him with the next senate-confirmed person in line, the DAG. Trumps appointment is unconstitutional and illegal, this move would be bitch-slapped in the SCOTUS and it's not even close.
 

BUTCH1

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Huh? "The deputy AG i an and adversary of the POTUS" ...and you say that as if it's just a normal, acceptable, whatever fact to be acted upon by POTUS, as if this is some acceptable form of antagonism?

what the holy hell happened to your useless fucking brain to even shit out such a claim as if it were just a standard state of existence?

seriously: explain yourself.
But to Trump it IS normal, even if it breaks every accepted procedure and constitutional norm, in a way this is the act of a desperate man and furthermore I expect D-bag Whittaker to take action sooner rather than later as in January a newly elected Dem house takes control. If he does not recuse himself in a matter of days we have arrived at the crisis, Trump's plan is now obvious, he could not get RR to bend to his will and interfere with Mueller, so he went around him by canning Sessions. Sadly, I did not participate it tonight's protest's and if you think about it, (if your in Trumps shoes) the timing is the right to attempt to pull this off, the mid term election cycle was brutal for all involved and I think all of us are glad it's over, this is the equivalent to short-snapping on 3rd and one in the NFL.
 

MrSquished

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Why is George Soros evil. Because he donates to some legitimate organizations like MoveOn? WTF? Fucking crazy nutso righties.
 

zinfamous

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Why is George Soros evil. Because he donates to some legitimate organizations like MoveOn? WTF? Fucking crazy nutso righties.

THis is why

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Protocols_of_the_Elders_of_Zion

You want to understand why a Trumpist Nazi fuck is pissing their pants about Soros?

It's generations-long antisemitic tripe. And it's the same shit, over and over again; Soros is just the new devil: the name to be replaced with the great demon, as it always was--the murderer of Jesus. The Great Usurer. The Hook-nosed Shyster, who steals your infant in the night and leaves an invoice behind.

All you need to know is that any time you hear or read anyone pointing a finger at Soros, it is because they are abject Nazi scum. Without any question. Any single person. Nazi fucking scum. Ignorant, illiterate, Nazi fucking scum. Each person. All of them. Each one. Fucking Nazis. Fuck them.

There isn't a single fucking person on the planet that honestly hates Soros and doesn't desire a firey end to all Jews. That's what this is all about. Evangelical, pants-pissing, apocalyptic, antisemitic shitfucks.
 
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BoomerD

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Well, Rosenstein is an adversary of Trump, so him skipping over Rosy shouldn't surprise anyone. If I were making appointments, they sure wouldn't be rewarding my foes. Relax. Whitaker is only the interim AG, until one can be appointed. I heard Trump is considering a woman colleague of Kavanaughs...an African-American woman, who's name escapes me.


Chris Christie and Rudy Giuliani are supposedly on the short list...

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/11/08/chris-christie-attorney-general/1929583002/
 

mikeymikec

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Save the Mueller probe from what?

I have not seen where anyone has attempted to stop the Mueller Probe.

Yep, because every day that Trump has spent on Twitter disparaging the investigation was just for his own shits and giggles, or that time he fired Comey and admitted on the record that it was about the Russia investigation and those news articles about him reportedly asking for people to do with the investigation to be fired or the investigation terminated were obviously just "fake news".

I think your mental blinkers have evolved to such a degree that someone could burgle your house in front of you and all they'd need to wear is a t-shirt that has a "fake news media" news article on it, or maybe some infamous Trump quotes. "No officer, I didn't see anything out of the ordinary!"... "but your CCTV footage shows this man walking right past you..."
 

cytg111

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They're starting to go out. I'm not, at least not yet. I don't know when firing Sessions became the red line; it was originally supposed to happen if Trump tried to fire Mueller, then they changed it to Rosenstein, now Sessions.

Rosenstein is out and Sessions replacement, a Trump sock and anti-Mueller puppet is overseeing the special counsel right now. Where would your red line be?
 

cytg111

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THis is why

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Protocols_of_the_Elders_of_Zion

You want to understand why a Trumpist Nazi fuck is pissing their pants about Soros?

It's generations-long antisemitic tripe. And it's the same shit, over and over again; Soros is just the new devil: the name to be replaced with the great demon, as it always was--the murderer of Jesus. The Great Usurer. The Hook-nosed Shyster, who steals your infant in the night and leaves an invoice behind.

All you need to know is that any time you hear or read anyone pointing a finger at Soros, it is because they are abject Nazi scum. Without any question. Any single person. Nazi fucking scum. Ignorant, illiterate, Nazi fucking scum. Each person. All of them. Each one. Fucking Nazis. Fuck them.

There isn't a single fucking person on the planet that honestly hates Soros and doesn't desire a firey end to all Jews. That's what this is all about. Evangelical, pants-pissing, apocalyptic, antisemitic shitfucks.

There is a lot of truth in that statement.
 

pcgeek11

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They skipped over the likely acting AG Rosenstein and went with Whitetaker who wrote an article on how he'd choke out mullers investigation, whole lot of nothing going on there.

Trump can appoint anyone he chooses as acting AG.

Speculation at best.
 
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pcgeek11

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You mean by putting a stooge in place who as already stated Mueller probe is invalid and already listed ways to shut it down?

I guess nothing to see there? /s (because you need it)

WHEN he does something then there will be a cause for alarm. Until then... Meh.

I do believe that the Mueller Probe should not be stopped or interfered with.
 
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Muse

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They seem to be saying Rosenstein being knocked out of the supervisory chain and putting this joker in was the red line.
Yes. And they are insisting on his recusing himself. Absent that, and especially if he sabotages the investigation, there will be hell to pay... i.e. a constitutional crisis and interminable riots. That's from the "outside." What goes on inside, I can't say.

News last night was that there's talk about Trump appointing Giuliani, Christie or a certain blond woman AG. Whoever it is, will have a leg up on confirmation because of the GOP's majority in the Senate.

Ginsberg better get over her falling incidents or the goddamn concoction in the white house is gonna appoint another SCOTUS puppet.
 
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pcgeek11

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Look kid, the world is too complicated for you now. Best you just stop worrying about it and commenting on it.

Kid?

Lord you are ignorant.

I'm not the one that is worried... Some in here are worried about nothing. I am allowed to comment on anything I wish, even your post.
 
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pcgeek11

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Yup, this, the normal process if the AG suddenly quits, (or is told to quit or be fired), would be to replace him with the next senate-confirmed person in line, the DAG. Trumps appointment is unconstitutional and illegal, this move would be bitch-slapped in the SCOTUS and it's not even close.

If true, someone should take it to the courts...

Do you have a link as to what is acceptable other than you just saying it?
 

pcgeek11

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You mean by putting a stooge in place who as already stated Mueller probe is invalid and already listed ways to shut it down?

I guess nothing to see there? /s (because you need it)

There is a big difference between having an opinion on something and actually taking action.
 

pcgeek11

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https://www.justsecurity.org/61386/...takers-power-influence-russia-investigations/

The question you HAVE to ask yourself is this : Why even challenge this? And why even challenge this with Withaker? Draw your own dumb conclusions.

I'm sure you have drawn your own Dumb Conclusions...

Reading the excellent opinion piece you linked, it seems there is a lot of wiggle room for either argument. And nothing is set in stone.

They should just allow Mueller to complete his quest.

"What’s Trump’s authority for superseding the AG Succession statute? He’s undoubtedly invoking the Vacancies Reform Act of 1998 (VRA), which provides (5 U.S.C. § 3345(a)(3)) that the President “may direct an officer or employee of [an] Executive agency to perform the functions and duties of [a] vacant office,” provided that the officer or employee has served, for at least 90 days during the year before the vacancy, in a position for which the pay is at least the level of GS-15—a criterion that Matthew Whitaker satisfies."

"Again, I don’t mean to offer a definitive view on whether the Appointments Clause objection would carry the day—suffice it to say that there’s never been an application of Eaton to a situation such as this one, so it’s technically an open question."
 
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Stopped by the Boston one as promised, didn’t get the info until late in the day. I was not dressed appropriately for the cold.
Mostly college age people and older hippies.
Good amount of people there so I really just looked at what was going on.
Didn’t stay to long, younger people had this.
 

cytg111

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I'm sure you have drawn your own Dumb Conclusions...

Reading the excellent opinion piece you linked, it seems there is a lot of wiggle room for either argument. And nothing is set in stone.

They should just allow Mueller to complete his quest.

"What’s Trump’s authority for superseding the AG Succession statute? He’s undoubtedly invoking the Vacancies Reform Act of 1998 (VRA), which provides (5 U.S.C. § 3345(a)(3)) that the President “may direct an officer or employee of [an] Executive agency to perform the functions and duties of [a] vacant office,” provided that the officer or employee has served, for at least 90 days during the year before the vacancy, in a position for which the pay is at least the level of GS-15—a criterion that Matthew Whitaker satisfies."

"Again, I don’t mean to offer a definitive view on whether the Appointments Clause objection would carry the day—suffice it to say that there’s never been an application of Eaton to a situation such as this one, so it’s technically an open question."

It was an, what looks to be, objective piece thats why I used that instead of ie. conways husband.
But why?
Why not go with Rosenstein?
 

pcgeek11

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It was an, what looks to be, objective piece thats why I used that instead of ie. conways husband.
But why?
Why not go with Rosenstein?

I said it was an excellent opinion piece. And it was, no sarcasm intended.

Lots of wiggle room in the details.

Why not go with Rosenstein? I don't know, maybe Trump just doesn't like him... It is his call after all unless the courts say otherwise.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Trump can appoint anyone he chooses as acting AG.

Speculation at best.

You might want to read up on that. Depending on particulars Trump may have broken the law and that is not speculation. You can read up on it as I did, but this is a time when doing your own homework is better. Or, you can stick with your position and run with it even if you are dead wrong.

Up to you.