Mouth Watering Socket 939 Opteron Goodness

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Mucker

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So far:

Just installed my Opty 146 CABYE, woot :p

Set optimized defaults,
pull Clawhammer 3500 out, (for sale by the way ;))
pop Opty in, boots fine to bios,
set HTT to 250 and vCore to 1.375 x 1.04 = 1.376v cpuz
1:1 memory (DDR500) 2.5-3-3-5-1T
run quick #5 and #8 memtest (pass)
boot into windows and run superpi 1M (33.5 sec)
vcore 1.376, max temp during pi = 41C

the machine feels solid, 500 free MHz in 15 minutes

I am going to run it here for a couple hours and then start bringing it up.
Quiet computing yet again....woot! :p

m
 

Fallengod

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Nice. :p I canceled my 146 order. I found someone selling a 3200 venice for $115 so...All I want is a modest 2.5-2.7ghz My logic was, why pay $200 when a venice is $115 and prices are about to be dropped in a week. :p Thats sweet though. Maybe I will get a 144 when they get more available.
 

Mucker

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Nothing wrong with a Venice modem, your logic is sound, personally, I didn't want to chance getting a bad E6. I got burned on a Winchester last time so I wanted peace of mind. And I have it. I can't believe the temp and voltage of this Opteron. As I speak, I am idling 35C in 80F ambient air at 1.376 vcore, XP-90. I have a feeling this cpu is going to scale pretty well....very happy :)
 

Lithan

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Update:


CPU I got from tankguys is


Opteron 144 "G" VPMW 0536

Testing it now.


1. This thing doesnt look like it will clock for crap. Does ~2300mhz on stock vcore. But it's ICE cold. Running ~35*C Large FFT prime load in 75*F room @ 1.55v 2300mhz now.


It's not the cpu holding me back. mem controller maybe... I'm gonna try dropping mem divider and push higher.
 

Lithan

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Looks like cpu maxes @ 2700mhz @ 1.55vcore. I've raised the vcore a little more and am seeing if I can squeeze a little more out on air cooling. I expect it will max @~ 2800mhz.
 

Mucker

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All in all, a good first day for my CABYE :)

Results (so far), OCCT stable:

2.751 GHz @ 1.552vCore @ 49C max temp (uncured AS5, XP-90) in 75F ambient air. (38C idle)
9/10 memory divider, DDR500 @ 2.95v @ 2.5-3-3-5-1T (3200, TCC5)
DFI nF4 Ultra-D (623-3 official, orange slots), Antec NeoPower 480.

vCore is a bit higher than I expected for 2.75 GHz, this cpu appears to be similiar to a SD 3700. Also runs OCCT stable at 2.500 GHz @ 1.400v @ 43C max temp (35C idle). I'd like to get off the memory divider as I feel (know) this crap Mushkin TCC5 is limiting me. A nice set of G.Skill would be A-OK :p

I have more tweaking to do but I'll have to say I'm pretty darn happy. It can only get better as the AS5 cures and burn-in proceeds. First day, a 750 MHz OC on a $206, 1MB cache cpu. :thumbsup: Will get some screens up when I have some time...

m :)
 

govtcheez75

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my suspicions were correct. The memory controller on my 146 CABYE does NOT seem to like running my TCCD 1:1 at high FSB. I got some BSOD and lock ups trying to aggressively overclock but settled at 2700mhz at 1.47v for now. It stress tested overnight and will go on all day today (about 24 hours) then I'll try 2800mhz. This is using the 166 divider which means my memory is running around 225mhz at 2-3-3-6 timings. Loosening up my timings did not help much. I was hoping I could run 1:1, but oh well. I don't think it will be a big performance hit. I'll be happy if I can get this to run at least 2.8ghz and ecstatic if it goes beyond that.

Oh, and temps are NOT good on these. With 1.47v, it stays around 38 degrees idle and goes upto 50 degrees on full load...and that's on WATER! My Venice and X2 never went above 42 degrees on this setup. I'm going to reapply AS5 tonight.
 

Lithan

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Temps are fantastic for me. Until I increase Vcore, then temps shoot up. @ 1.65vcore runs about the same temp as my 3700+ SD did at 1.7vcore.
 

govtcheez75

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Originally posted by: Lithan
Temps are fantastic for me. Until I increase Vcore, then temps shoot up. @ 1.65vcore runs about the same temp as my 3700+ SD did at 1.7vcore.

Yeah. I'm going to reapply AS5 and reseat the processor tonight. I can't believe you're pumping 1.65 volts into that processor. I get pretty paranoid around 1.5-1.55v.
 

Lithan

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Really? Hell, I'd give it 2volts if I was still running water and it actually benefited anything. But 1.65-1.7v is about where modern A64's seem to stop gaining from more vcore on air.
 

govtcheez75

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Originally posted by: Lithan
Really? Hell, I'd give it 2volts if I was still running water and it actually benefited anything. But 1.65-1.7v is about where modern A64's seem to stop gaining from more vcore on air.

Have you ever fried a processor? I'm guessing that 1.7+v would do some kind of damage.
 

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Its great to hear your results, guys, keep it coming! I'm sure that this will help those of us who are still undecided whether to try one of these chips or not.
 

Lithan

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Originally posted by: govtcheez75
Originally posted by: Lithan
Really? Hell, I'd give it 2volts if I was still running water and it actually benefited anything. But 1.65-1.7v is about where modern A64's seem to stop gaining from more vcore on air.

Have you ever fried a processor? I'm guessing that 1.7+v would do some kind of damage.



I've never kept an A64 more than ~five months. I've never given an intel serious volts for more than a few minutes since they really dont respond to voltage too well. I ran XP's up to 2.2v for a day or so at a time and 1.95v 24/7 for almost a year without killing them (watercooled back then). AMD's are pretty damn durable with regards to vcore usually.
 

Mucker

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Originally posted by: Lithan
Originally posted by: govtcheez75
Originally posted by: Lithan
Really? Hell, I'd give it 2volts if I was still running water and it actually benefited anything. But 1.65-1.7v is about where modern A64's seem to stop gaining from more vcore on air.

Have you ever fried a processor? I'm guessing that 1.7+v would do some kind of damage.



I've never kept an A64 more than ~five months. I've never given an intel serious volts for more than a few minutes since they really dont respond to voltage too well. I ran XP's up to 2.2v for a day or so at a time and 1.95v 24/7 for almost a year without killing them (watercooled back then). AMD's are pretty damn durable with regards to vcore usually.


Maybe so but you just made my DNB list for used cpu's ;)
 

govtcheez75

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I tried reseating my 146 and used much less AS5. My idle temps seem to have remained about the same as before (38-39), but my load temps dropped about 5 degrees. Now it's not getting anywhere near 50 degrees.

I can tell this thing runs MUCH warmer than the Venice or X2 I previously had. The tubing with the water flowing out of the processor and GPU actually feels somewhat warm to the touch. I may have to get a bigger radiator. :confused:

Oh yeah. Forgot to mention that it prime tested at 2807mhz overnight! :)
I'm going to stay here for a bit before trying to go higher, as this was pretty much my goal when I got this chip. I told myself that anything above 2.8ghz would be icing on the cake.
 

govtcheez75

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anyone able to run 1:1 with their ram at high FSB? I'm having to use a divider for the first time since owning these Mushkins. :(
 

Zim

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ETA for the 939 Opterons is today, but I don't see any in stock anywhere. I'm looking at the 146 OEM at Monarch and wondering what version it might be. Since it's OEM it may be one of the older ones (since OEM cpus are drying up). Anyone know anything?
 

govtcheez75

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I'm guessing CABYE. The highly sought after CABNE is pretty rare, as are the CABGE which people try to avoid like the plague.
 

Shimmishim

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rumor has it that the OEM 146's that shipped out last week were all CABNE's...

as for the ones shipping out this week... i have no idea...

my 148 (when it wants to boot) does 3.0 ghz with 1.55 volts 32M spi stable. it does 2.9 ghz prime for 12 hours before creating an error.

2.88 is solid though.

as for temps... i've noticed what others have... my opty runs hotter than my SD does even with less volts...
 

Zim

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Originally posted by: Zim
ETA for the 939 Opterons is today, but I don't see any in stock anywhere. I'm looking at the 146 OEM at Monarch and wondering what version it might be. Since it's OEM it may be one of the older ones (since OEM cpus are drying up). Anyone know anything?
DAMN! They hiked the price!! Now about $50 over what they should be. They can keep them. Feckers! :|
 

Mucker

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Originally posted by: govtcheez75
anyone able to run 1:1 with their ram at high FSB? I'm having to use a divider for the first time since owning these Mushkins. :(

My Mushkin L2V2 TCC5 sucks, very mediocre stuff. I bought the set brand new back in April when all the talk was TCCD, before the TCC5 fiasco broke out when OCZ announced a change. I was misled by a Mushkin rep on another forum and made the purchase, thinking it was TCCD on Brainpower PCB.

About a month ago, curiosity got the best of me and I pulled a heatspreader off. I found out it was TCC5 (purchased in April :Q), talk about being PO'd. So chances are good that they are inferior TCC5 and not TCCD. If they are not hitting high fsb, they are certainly not TCCD even though the manufacturer will tell you the die is the same (when monkeys fly out my butt). I am very dissappointed with Mushkin. I'd love to have a set of G.Skills :) They tell you right up front what you are getting.....

This set is a perfect mate for an Opteron: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820231006
 

govtcheez75

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Originally posted by: Mucker
Originally posted by: govtcheez75
anyone able to run 1:1 with their ram at high FSB? I'm having to use a divider for the first time since owning these Mushkins. :(

My Mushkin L2V2 TCC5 sucks, very mediocre stuff. I bought the set brand new back in April when all the talk was TCCD, before the TCC5 fiasco broke out when OCZ announced a change. I was misled by a Mushkin rep on another forum and made the purchase, thinking it was TCCD on Brainpower PCB.

About a month ago, curiosity got the best of me and I pulled a heatspreader off. I found out it was TCC5 (purchased in April :Q), talk about being PO'd. So chances are good that they are inferior TCC5 and not TCCD. If they are not hitting high fsb, they are certainly not TCCD even though the manufacturer will tell you the die is the same (when monkeys fly out my butt). I am very dissappointed with Mushkin. I'd love to have a set of G.Skills :) They tell you right up front what you are getting.....

This set is a perfect mate for an Opteron: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820231006

Mine are TCCD. I've had them upto 306mhz with other processors. Doesn't seem to want to go above 260 with the opteron though.