Motorist beaten by crowd after boy dies

[MercenaryForHire]

Originally posted by: MichaelD
NO, he does not!!! He 's not a citizen of this country, ergo our laws and rights do not apply to him.

We're talking legally here, not morally or anything "fuzzy" like that. Try going down to Mexico, breaking the law, then telling the local police "I have rights!" See what happens.

*punch in belly* You have the right to remain silent! *maglite to skull*



- M4H

 

[gopunk]

Originally posted by: MichaelD

Originally posted by: joshsquall

Originally posted by: MichaelD

Originally posted by: HotChic

Originally posted by: MichaelD
Nobody has caught this fact yet:

The Border Patrol asked that he remain jailed even if he posts bail because he did not have immigration documents, Miller said.

He is in the is country illegally (surprise!) and he HAS NO RIGHTS AT ALL. Shoot his ass. Better, let him loose in the neighborhood where he killed the kid...let them know he's coming.

I am sure the kid darted out and there was no way anyone could've stopped. What's done is done. But this guys' another illegal alien. No right.s

Being an illegal alien, he doesn't have the rights of a citizen, certainly. But the rights we have in our country are based on the idea that ALL men (if you want to be technical about language) have certain inalienable rights. He may not be legally guarenteed rights, but as a human being, if we're true to our founding, he does have rights.

Historically, you're correct. But I respectfully disagree w/you in this case.

We are no longer in the "good old days of immigration" i.e. late 1800s/early 1900s. In this modern day and age, the legal immigration process is well known. And not to "go there" but every single immigration document this country produces is in English and Spanish.

Mr. Martinez knew damn well he was here illegally. That's why he didn't have a license.

It's too bad the boy is dead, but this is just another "illegal immigrant gets busted" story.

250 years doesn't negate the declaration of independence, constitution, and the bill of rights.. the guy still has the legal right to not be assaulted.

NO, he does not!!! He 's not a citizen of this country, ergo our laws and rights do not apply to him.

We're talking legally here, not morally or anything "fuzzy" like that. Try going down to Mexico, breaking the law, then telling the local police "I have rights!" See what happens.

no, our laws do apply to him. if he murdered someone, he can and should be charged with murdering someone. similarly, if someone murdered him, that person can and should be charged with murder.

as for rights... he is implicitly given the right not be assaulted by sheer virtue of the fact that everybody in this country is bound by anti-assault laws.

 

[Cyberian]

Originally posted by: joshsquall

Originally posted by: Cyberian

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
lol first beating was not called for,unless he was driving recklessly. 2nd beating.. lol i can't argue with that

He was already a half a block away when the other men stopped him.
Where would he be going after he just hit a little boy? Shouldn't he have stopped immediately?

220 feet isn't fast enough for you?

No, no it isn't on a residential street.
You hit a human being, you stop immediately.

I actually don't give a crap if this guy was an illegal alien, a space alien or the Mayor of Bumfvck.

 

[dman]

Originally posted by: MichaelDI am sure the kid darted out and there was no way anyone could've stopped. What's done is done. But this guys' another illegal alien. No right.s

According to the news last night, he swerved off the road and hit the kid on the grassy area. But, in today's Palm Beach Post article it says the kid was in the center of the road w/ family chatting w/ another driver on the side of the road.

Sun Sentinel says kid darted into road.

Who knows, doesn't change that both parties were wrong.

 

[N8Magic]

^^^

 

[Shockwave]

Stupid Illegal Aleins.
I wish they would open a hunting season on the little bastards. I HATE THEM. :|

And as far as I'm concerned, if your here illegally, you have NO RIGHTS WHATSOEVER. Not morally, not legally and not as a human. Your dirt that should be dragged behind a truck as fertilizer.

 

[nick1985]

Originally posted by: PatboyX
ive always been a big fan of vigilante crime fighting.

 

[NetGuySC]

Perhaps if this bunch of people were watching the kid he would still be alive.

The vigilantes should be arrested for they beat him before they knew he had no license.

 

[Cyberian]

Originally posted by: NetGuySC
Perhaps if this bunch of people were watching the kid he would still be alive.

The vigilantes should be arrested for they beat him before they knew he had no license.

Jeezus!

They beat him because he hit the kid and kept on going.
I doubt if anyone gave a damn if he had a license.

 

[JohnPaul]

I'm not fully understanding this situation. How did the men who beat him catch him if he were fleeing the scene? Was he trying to stop, but they were jogging along side of him threatening him with a beatdown if he would just get out of the car? If that's the case, I would have stayed in the car most likely, and either gone to a police station or called from a cellphone. Granted, him not having a license puts him in the wrong, and the kid didn't need to be running in front of cars. Also, the guy didn't even belong in the country, so really, everyone involved is in the wrong, but beating the guy's head in isn't bringing the kid back, although, truth be told, i'd have done the same if he were my friends son. As for the givers of the beat-down being charged, who's to say anyone would come forward and finger them as suspects? That is likely the reason nobody has been charged. nobody wants to finger the vigilante who fought for the dead child. It's not really the polices' fault. Although there are many other things I can think of to fault cops with, this isn't one of them.

 

[Orsorum]

It sounds like all parties involved are at fault in some form.

 

[Mallow]

umm... the boy darted into the street? Granted the guy should have a liscense and shouldn't flee the scene but it can be hard to stop abruptly if a boy "darts" into the street.

 

[kami333]

Originally posted by: Shockwave
Stupid Illegal Aleins.
I wish they would open a hunting season on the little bastards. I HATE THEM. :|

And as far as I'm concerned, if your here illegally, you have NO RIGHTS WHATSOEVER. Not morally, not legally and not as a human. Your dirt that should be dragged behind a truck as fertilizer.

I agree, I want to go round up a couple and make them my slaves. They have no rights, right?

 

[littleprince]

Originally posted by: MichaelD



NO, he does not!!! He 's not a citizen of this country, ergo our laws and rights do not apply to him.

We're talking legally here, not morally or anything "fuzzy" like that. Try going down to Mexico, breaking the law, then telling the local police "I have rights!" See what happens.

You could be the next bush. This is why the rest of the world hates you.

 

[Orsorum]

Originally posted by: MichaelD
NO, he does not!!! He 's not a citizen of this country, ergo our laws and rights do not apply to him.

We're talking legally here, not morally or anything "fuzzy" like that. Try going down to Mexico, breaking the law, then telling the local police "I have rights!" See what happens.

I would love to see you say this same thing when you go to Mexico, or Canada, or any other country.

 

[Ime]

Sounds to me like he was trying to get away and the crowd detained him until police arrived.

How did he get those bruises? Oh, he tripped and fell over... several times.

 

[Dudd]

Something similar happened in my town too, except the kid wasn't killed, and the guy driving had a legal license and supposedly wasn't breaking any laws. Still got his ass beat, and had to flee and find a cop on patrol during 4th of July fireworks to get some help.

 

[Shockwave]

Originally posted by: kami333

Originally posted by: Shockwave
Stupid Illegal Aleins.
I wish they would open a hunting season on the little bastards. I HATE THEM. :|

And as far as I'm concerned, if your here illegally, you have NO RIGHTS WHATSOEVER. Not morally, not legally and not as a human. Your dirt that should be dragged behind a truck as fertilizer.

I agree, I want to go round up a couple and make them my slaves. They have no rights, right?

Absolutely.

 

[ztadmin]

How many of you would partake in beating the crap out of somebody that hit and killed a friend's 3-year old child... and then kept on driving? I know I would.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
lol first beating was not called for,unless he was driving recklessly. 2nd beating.. lol i can't argue with that

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: Orsorum
It sounds like all parties involved are at fault in some form.

 

[flxnimprtmscl]

Originally posted by: littleprince

Originally posted by: MichaelD



NO, he does not!!! He 's not a citizen of this country, ergo our laws and rights do not apply to him.

We're talking legally here, not morally or anything "fuzzy" like that. Try going down to Mexico, breaking the law, then telling the local police "I have rights!" See what happens.

You could be the next bush. This is why the rest of the world hates you.

Grow up. You could be the next :insert flaming pussy here: who'd rather let everyone walk all over us and our laws just so they'll like us. Which most of the world doesn't anyway no matter how we act. Go take the personality test that someone posted here. I'm interested to see what the profile is for a "man" who had his testicles removed years ago.

Edit: Nevermind. I see that you're Canadian. I get it now.

 

[Orsorum]

Originally posted by: flxnimprtmscl

Grow up. You could be the next :insert flaming pussy here: who'd rather let everyone walk all over us and our laws just so they'll like us. Which most of the world doesn't anyway no matter how we act. Go take the personality test that someone posted here. I'm interested to see what the profile is for a "man" who had his testicles removed years ago.

How mature of you. *snort snort* You don't have any balls.

Why don't you take a step out of the seventh grade and grow up.

 

[flxnimprtmscl]

Originally posted by: Orsorum

Originally posted by: flxnimprtmscl

Grow up. You could be the next :insert flaming pussy here: who'd rather let everyone walk all over us and our laws just so they'll like us. Which most of the world doesn't anyway no matter how we act. Go take the personality test that someone posted here. I'm interested to see what the profile is for a "man" who had his testicles removed years ago.

How mature of you. *snort snort* You don't have any balls.

Why don't you take a step out of the seventh grade and grow up.

*sigh* Nothing quite as fun as the self-righteous.

 

[Orsorum]

Originally posted by: flxnimprtmscl

Originally posted by: Orsorum

Originally posted by: flxnimprtmscl

Grow up. You could be the next :insert flaming pussy here: who'd rather let everyone walk all over us and our laws just so they'll like us. Which most of the world doesn't anyway no matter how we act. Go take the personality test that someone posted here. I'm interested to see what the profile is for a "man" who had his testicles removed years ago.

How mature of you. *snort snort* You don't have any balls.

Why don't you take a step out of the seventh grade and grow up.

*sigh* Nothing quite as fun as the self-righteous.

I agree.