Motorcycle hoons

[FuzzyDunlop]

Fact: More than half of all motorcycle fatalities do not involve any other vehicles other than the motorcyclist.

Not sure why you would feel perfectly safe riding without a helmet knowing that fact but then you're a new rider.

I also wonder what % of those fatalities were with sport bikes and an idiot going way to fast or stunting.

Its why I dont ride a sport bike. Dont want to be a squidmark

 

[DVad3r]

Just because people ride Harley's don't mean they ride them slow. I rode my V-Rod pretty fast a lot of the times, granted it's a different bike than the traditional air cooled stuff. I even topped it out at 240 km/h. I also rode with friends that rode air cooled HD's and they rode pretty fast.

 

[WilliamM2]

I also wonder what % of those fatalities were with sport bikes and an idiot going way to fast or stunting.

Its why I dont ride a sport bike. Dont want to be a squidmark

Scroll down to "Fatally injured motorcycle drivers by motorcycle type and engine size, 2011"

http://www.iihs.org/research/fatality.aspx?topicName=Motorcycles

Cruisers make up the largest number of fatalities, and it's increasing every year. That's to be expected when a bunch of mid-life crisis first time riders go out and buy big heavy Harley's that weigh a ton, and don't handle or stop well. And on top of that, they don't like helmets.

 

[JulesMaximus]

I also wonder what % of those fatalities were with sport bikes and an idiot going way to fast or stunting.

Its why I dont ride a sport bike. Dont want to be a squidmark

Stunting isn't that dangerous. Most of it is done at low speed but accidents are frequent when learning and you pretty much trash the bikes.

I don't ride a sport bike because they're uncomfortable. I do ride with sport bike groups quite a bit though. Most of them are very safe riders, wear full gear and don't do stupid shit.

 

[z1ggy]

I also wonder what % of those fatalities were with sport bikes and an idiot going way to fast or stunting.

Its why I dont ride a sport bike. Dont want to be a squidmark

You act like sportbikes are the only bikes capable of a fast velocity, lol. Just shows people's ignorance and stereotypical judgements.

 

[OILFIELDTRASH]

It's such a waste to see a sport bike on the street. It's like seeing a horse being fenced in a couple acres of land. They should be leaned over on a track, tires holding onto dear life, coming out of the corner throttle pinned, eyes looking down the track gauging the next turn. Hit the corner stomach in knots holding your line... Such a sad death for a true precision instrument.

 

[JulesMaximus]

It's such a waste to see a sport bike on the street. It's like seeing a horse being fenced in a couple acres of land. They should be leaned over on a track, tires holding onto dear life, coming out of the corner throttle pinned, eyes looking down the track gauging the next turn. Hit the corner stomach in knots holding your line... Such a sad death for a true precision instrument.

One could make the same argument against sports cars on the street. Besides, most of the guys and gals I ride with do track days on their street bikes.

 

[OILFIELDTRASH]

One could make the same argument against sports cars on the street. Besides, most of the guys and gals I ride with do track days on their street bikes.

If you only ever remember one thing I tell you remember this. Riding on the track for the first time will be the single greatest experience you will ever have on a motorcycle and the second is so far down the line it's not even funny. And having said that doesn't even do it justice.

 

[JulesMaximus]

If you only ever remember one thing I tell you remember this. Riding on the track for the first time will be the single greatest experience you will ever have on a motorcycle and the second is so far down the line it's not even funny. And having said that doesn't even do it justice.

I'm planning on doing a trackday before the year is out. I'm sure I'll love it.

It still isn't going to stop me from riding on the street though.

 

[Greenman]

Scroll down to "Fatally injured motorcycle drivers by motorcycle type and engine size, 2011"

http://www.iihs.org/research/fatality.aspx?topicName=Motorcycles

Cruisers make up the largest number of fatalities, and it's increasing every year. That's to be expected when a bunch of mid-life crisis first time riders go out and buy big heavy Harley's that weigh a ton, and don't handle or stop well. And on top of that, they don't like helmets.

Take a look at deaths by age and it's an entirely different picture than you've painted.

 

[Fenixgoon]

Take a look at deaths by age and it's an entirely different picture than you've painted.

deaths of riders over 50 years old went from 3% to 35% while riders 29 and under went from 80% to ~30%.

that's one hell of a change. i would argue that the age data, rather than the engine size data, supports the proposed theory (midlife crisis / baby boomers) better.

 

[WilliamM2]

Take a look at deaths by age and it's an entirely different picture than you've painted.

Really?

In the early 1980s the proportion of fatally injured motorcyclists 50 and older started to increase, rising from 3 percent of all rider deaths in 1982 to 13 percent in 1997 and 35 percent in 2011.

 

[Greenman]

Really?

I didn't see that, just the graph, and I misunderstood that. I should have looked further down.

I'm having trouble understanding what I'm reading in those charts. Old guy deaths are on the way up, young guy deaths are on the way down, but it appears that most deaths are on supersport bikes or involve booze. Is that correct?

 

[WilliamM2]

I'm having trouble understanding what I'm reading in those charts. Old guy deaths are on the way up, young guy deaths are on the way down, but it appears that most deaths are on supersport bikes or involve booze. Is that correct?

No that's not correct. Cruisers have the highest death rate, just as I stated when I posted the link. Over 40% higher than sportbikes (1441 vs. 1004). Alcohol is involved in 48% of all accidents, not most.

You are having trouble reading those charts.

 

[Greenman]

No that's not correct. Cruisers have the highest death rate, just as I stated when I posted the link. Over 40% higher than sportbikes (1441 vs. 1004). Alcohol is involved in 48% of all accidents, not most.

You are having trouble reading those charts.

Apparently.