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Lifer
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Originally posted by: DWW
I love how assholes can sit around and call anyone who commits suicide a "loser" because they were so selfish blah fvckity blah blah blah. If only you could understand a fraction of the crap this guy went through both physically and mentally. You don't know depression. You don't know how every morning you wake up the first thing you naturally come to think about is killing yourself. You don't know the adverse effects the accident had on him (brain injuries can result in even more traumatic depression...penguin bills cutting his hands off?) in addition to his mounting external pressures (bills, mortgages, all that junk).

You can see how much he talks about the love he has for his son so you don't really fvcking know what sort of depression he must have been under to kill himself, do you? But you really don't think about that because its easy for you to sit and judge others. Perhaps someone you loved committed suicide and you feel bitter and alone.

Whatever your reason is: way to be an asshole :thumbsup:


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bad stuff happens to people all of the time. millions of people are depressed. if he was that bad off, why wasnt he commited? he took the easy way out, period.

ive had a few friends who suffered from depression. one of them has a family. he confided in me that he had thought of suicide, but he couldnt bear to do that to his family. sure enough, he stuck it out, and his life is 100 percent better.

my step-father was parapalegic, and bedridden for the last 5 yrs of his life. in constant pain, im sure he would have loved to find relief in death. if anyone had a "good" reason, it was him. he once mentioned that to my mother, who became very upset. he reassured her that no matter how bad it had become, he would never do it because of the fact that we all depended on him and he couldnt do that to us.

sometimes life sucks. but to ditch your son because you are unhappy is selfish and chicken-sh!t. your sons well being is way more important than bills, etc. he couldve gotten help and bettered himself.
 

vegetation

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Originally posted by: Jzero
Originally posted by: Kelvrick
Originally posted by: waggy
did as you said and read the last paragraph. a block of crap is a pain to read.

ok i been in a few bad motocycle accidents. last one really messed up my right hip. BUT HE IS A LOSER..wait let me change that. HE WAS A LOSER.

he took his life? pfft he had a 3 year old son. while i do feel sorry for him for getting so messed up from it he still had a reason to live. now what is his son going to do without a father? pfft.

Shut up. So did you even read the whole thing? He's going to lose his house, bills piling up, what is he going to do with his son, go live in a car? The way he got fvcked up, its unlikely he coulda got back on his feet financially because it'll be pretty damn hard to get back on his feet financially. Dying probably eliminated all his bills right there, at least taking the burdon off of his family.

A lot of creditors don't care if you die. They'll just hit your estate up for what you owe.

Yup , even if you only have a single $2 bill left to your child, you can bet they will seize that.
 

Pliablemoose

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!.) He knew that motorcycle riding was a dangerous sport.
2.) He lost the gamble
3.) He killed himself

I don't mean to be hard harted, but I've seen people busted up a hell of a lot worse not kill themselves, frankly, as long as his dick wasn't ground off in the wreck, he had a reason to live.

Darwin's theories are alive & well, proven every day.
 

boyRacer

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Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
!.) He knew that motorcycle riding was a dangerous sport.
2.) He lost the gamble
3.) He killed himself

I don't mean to be hard harted, but I've seen people busted up a hell of a lot worse not kill themselves, frankly, as long as his dick wasn't ground off in the wreck, he had a reason to live.

Darwin's theories are alive & well, proven every day.

I dont think that just because you ride a motorcyle you're going to hurt yourself automatically... more like someone else will hurt you.

From his post it didn't sound like he was doing anything reckless during the accident... but more often that not... its assholes in cars that hit motorcycles.

I'm not trying to say that he was right to kill himself but he was in depression... you guys can say all you want... but the fact is he was depressed so his mind was obviously fvked up already. He did have other options... but who am I to say that since I wasnt in his position.

A famous cyclist just killed himself earlier this year... Marco Pantani... his situation wasn't as bad as this guy's IMHO but guess what... he was depressed as well and off he went. :(
 

Pliablemoose

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Yeah, yeah, the Nissan driver needs to die...

Fact is it was some poor slob that clipped him & prob never knew what happened.

The story of how i lost my nerve:..I was catching a MSF update class in Texas & sat across from one of my fellow MSF instructors, I'd noticed he was a little sloppy in the exercises (we actually rode bikes & re-taught each other the exercises & polished up our skills) and I'd noticed the Master Instructors taking it easy on him...

His shirt came open & I noticed a tracheostomy scar, fairly well healed. He knew I was a nurse & one of the cool things about being a nurse is that you can get away with asking lots of personal questions. Turns out he had a major accident on his BMW & spent ~3 months in the hospital & was just getting back to riding/teaching. It unnerved me.

About a year later, I was on my way back from teaching a class ~90 miles away from home & a Grand Am driver cut me off, broke my left arm (compound fracture humerus), seven ribs, caused my left lung to collapse, & broke my left big toe.

I woke up in ICU the nest morning, spent ~1.5 months getting better, went for a ride on my KLR650 (less than 6 months old, the other bike was totaled) and came withing ~1 foot from getting tboned by a hearse.

I rode home slowly, listed my KLR for sale (easily my favorite bike of all time, iI'd put on street tires, rejetted the carb, changed out the airbox & put on a SuperTrapp muffler on it & would wheelie if you just thought about it).

I've ridden a friend's Harley in a parking lot since then & that's all in ~5 years, I had >25 years licensed riding experience, and have owned ~14 bikes, was a MSF instructor for years...

Unless the guy had a double digit IQ, he knew he was @ risk for serious injury every time he swung his leg over that bike. If not, he had no business riding.

I have no sympathy for him .

I can introduce any of you to a dozen paraplegic guys & quads who would have gladly changed places with him in a second.

I do however feel badly for his son & family members who are now @ a significantly higher risk for commiting suicide themselves because someone that close to them has chosen to end his life.
 

waggy

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Dec 14, 2000
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Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
Yeah, yeah, the Nissan driver needs to die...

Fact is it was some poor slob that clipped him & prob never knew what happened.

The story of how i lost my nerve:..I was catching a MSF update class in Texas & sat across from one of my fellow MSF instructors, I'd noticed he was a little sloppy in the exercises (we actually rode bikes & re-taught each other the exercises & polished up our skills) and I'd noticed the Master Instructors taking it easy on him...

His shirt came open & I noticed a tracheostomy scar, fairly well healed. He knew I was a nurse & one of the cool things about being a nurse is that you can get away with asking lots of personal questions. Turns out he had a major accident on his BMW & spent ~3 months in the hospital & was just getting back to riding/teaching. It unnerved me.

About a year later, I was on my way back from teaching a class ~90 miles away from home & a Grand Am driver cut me off, broke my left arm (compound fracture humerus), seven ribs, caused my left lung to collapse, & broke my left big toe.

I woke up in ICU the nest morning, spent ~1.5 months getting better, went for a ride on my KLR650 (less than 6 months old, the other bike was totaled) and came withing ~1 foot from getting tboned by a hearse.

I rode home slowly, listed my KLR for sale (easily my favorite bike of all time, iI'd put on street tires, rejetted the carb, changed out the airbox & put on a SuperTrapp muffler on it & would wheelie if you just thought about it).

I've ridden a friend's Harley in a parking lot since then & that's all in ~5 years, I had >25 years licensed riding experience, and have owned ~14 bikes, was a MSF instructor for years...

Unless the guy had a double digit IQ, he knew he was @ risk for serious injury every time he swung his leg over that bike. If not, he had no business riding.

I have no sympathy for him .

I can introduce any of you to a dozen paraplegic guys & quads who would have gladly changed places with him in a second.

I do however feel badly for his son & family members who are now @ a significantly higher risk for commiting suicide themselves because someone that close to them has chosen to end his life.

well said.

Anyone who has ridden bikes for years will tell you they know someone who has been in a accident. or they have been in one themselves.

I do feel sorry for his son. But not the father. i just hope the kid turns out ok.
 

Cashmoney995

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Originally posted by: waggy
did as you said and read the last paragraph. a block of crap is a pain to read.

ok i been in a few bad motocycle accidents. last one really messed up my right hip. BUT HE IS A LOSER..wait let me change that. HE WAS A LOSER.

he took his life? pfft he had a 3 year old son. while i do feel sorry for him for getting so messed up from it he still had a reason to live. now what is his son going to do without a father? pfft.

He won't be a burden to his son. And, his son won't have to work to pay off the debts. All debts are absolved after death. I would never want to live through what he lived through. I would have definetly wanted to die.
 

DaiShan

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Originally posted by: waggy
did as you said and read the last paragraph. a block of crap is a pain to read.

ok i been in a few bad motocycle accidents. last one really messed up my right hip. BUT HE IS A LOSER..wait let me change that. HE WAS A LOSER.

he took his life? pfft he had a 3 year old son. while i do feel sorry for him for getting so messed up from it he still had a reason to live. now what is his son going to do without a father? pfft.

Either read the whole story or go to hell.
 

waggy

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Originally posted by: Cashmoney995
Originally posted by: waggy
did as you said and read the last paragraph. a block of crap is a pain to read.

ok i been in a few bad motocycle accidents. last one really messed up my right hip. BUT HE IS A LOSER..wait let me change that. HE WAS A LOSER.

he took his life? pfft he had a 3 year old son. while i do feel sorry for him for getting so messed up from it he still had a reason to live. now what is his son going to do without a father? pfft.

He won't be a burden to his son. And, his son won't have to work to pay off the debts. All debts are absolved after death. I would never want to live through what he lived through. I would have definetly wanted to die.

actually not all debts are forgivin. They will take what they need out of his estate. I agree i wouldn't want to live through what he did. But There is NO way i would leave that mess to my family nor abandon my child.

Orginally posted by: DaiShan
Either read the whole story or go to hell.

I did read it and your point is what? HE killed himself because the his medical bills and debt was to high so he took the easy way out. HE IS A LOSER.

I'm not the one going to hell he is. sorry.

don't like it? oh well. HE abandoned his 3 year old. he stuck his wife with that debt. Yea cry me a river that he was depressed. there are options for people with depression.

life sucks. I feel for his family though his family now lost everything he worked for to pay off that debt, they have to pay for his grave, his son is going to grow up without his father, his parents are going to wonder if they could have done something.

if you want to feel sorry for someone feel sorry for the child. Not this guy.
 

DWW

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Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: Cashmoney995
Originally posted by: waggy
did as you said and read the last paragraph. a block of crap is a pain to read.

ok i been in a few bad motocycle accidents. last one really messed up my right hip. BUT HE IS A LOSER..wait let me change that. HE WAS A LOSER.

he took his life? pfft he had a 3 year old son. while i do feel sorry for him for getting so messed up from it he still had a reason to live. now what is his son going to do without a father? pfft.

He won't be a burden to his son. And, his son won't have to work to pay off the debts. All debts are absolved after death. I would never want to live through what he lived through. I would have definetly wanted to die.

actually not all debts are forgivin. They will take what they need out of his estate. I agree i wouldn't want to live through what he did. But There is NO way i would leave that mess to my family nor abandon my child.

Orginally posted by: DaiShan
Either read the whole story or go to hell.

I did read it and your point is what? HE killed himself because the his medical bills and debt was to high so he took the easy way out. HE IS A LOSER.

I'm not the one going to hell he is. sorry.

don't like it? oh well. HE abandoned his 3 year old. he stuck his wife with that debt. Yea cry me a river that he was depressed. there are options for people with depression.

life sucks. I feel for his family though his family now lost everything he worked for to pay off that debt, they have to pay for his grave, his son is going to grow up without his father, his parents are going to wonder if they could have done something.

if you want to feel sorry for someone feel sorry for the child. Not this guy.

Wow, you go to hell for suicide? :confused:
 

boyRacer

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Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: Cashmoney995
Originally posted by: waggy
did as you said and read the last paragraph. a block of crap is a pain to read.

ok i been in a few bad motocycle accidents. last one really messed up my right hip. BUT HE IS A LOSER..wait let me change that. HE WAS A LOSER.

he took his life? pfft he had a 3 year old son. while i do feel sorry for him for getting so messed up from it he still had a reason to live. now what is his son going to do without a father? pfft.

He won't be a burden to his son. And, his son won't have to work to pay off the debts. All debts are absolved after death. I would never want to live through what he lived through. I would have definetly wanted to die.

actually not all debts are forgivin. They will take what they need out of his estate. I agree i wouldn't want to live through what he did. But There is NO way i would leave that mess to my family nor abandon my child.

Orginally posted by: DaiShan
Either read the whole story or go to hell.

I did read it and your point is what? HE killed himself because the his medical bills and debt was to high so he took the easy way out. HE IS A LOSER.

I'm not the one going to hell he is. sorry.

don't like it? oh well. HE abandoned his 3 year old. he stuck his wife with that debt. Yea cry me a river that he was depressed. there are options for people with depression.

life sucks. I feel for his family though his family now lost everything he worked for to pay off that debt, they have to pay for his grave, his son is going to grow up without his father, his parents are going to wonder if they could have done something.

if you want to feel sorry for someone feel sorry for the child. Not this guy.

I feel sympathy for everyone involved in this tragedy. I don't know what happened to you or what you went through as you seem to be very angry at all this, but you're quite condescending in voicing your opinion... and you're not alone either. Unfortunately you can't carry a conversation nowadays with having someone do that. I wouldn't have a problem with it otherwise but hey... cry me a fucking river right?
 

OREOSpeedwagon

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Originally posted by: DWW
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: Cashmoney995
Originally posted by: waggy
did as you said and read the last paragraph. a block of crap is a pain to read.

ok i been in a few bad motocycle accidents. last one really messed up my right hip. BUT HE IS A LOSER..wait let me change that. HE WAS A LOSER.

he took his life? pfft he had a 3 year old son. while i do feel sorry for him for getting so messed up from it he still had a reason to live. now what is his son going to do without a father? pfft.

He won't be a burden to his son. And, his son won't have to work to pay off the debts. All debts are absolved after death. I would never want to live through what he lived through. I would have definetly wanted to die.

actually not all debts are forgivin. They will take what they need out of his estate. I agree i wouldn't want to live through what he did. But There is NO way i would leave that mess to my family nor abandon my child.

Orginally posted by: DaiShan
Either read the whole story or go to hell.

I did read it and your point is what? HE killed himself because the his medical bills and debt was to high so he took the easy way out. HE IS A LOSER.

I'm not the one going to hell he is. sorry.

don't like it? oh well. HE abandoned his 3 year old. he stuck his wife with that debt. Yea cry me a river that he was depressed. there are options for people with depression.

life sucks. I feel for his family though his family now lost everything he worked for to pay off that debt, they have to pay for his grave, his son is going to grow up without his father, his parents are going to wonder if they could have done something.

if you want to feel sorry for someone feel sorry for the child. Not this guy.

Wow, you go to hell for suicide? :confused:

I dunno. The way my Sunday school teacher used to explain it was, killing is a sin (including killing yourself). If you are dead, there is no way to ask for forgiveness for it. Not sure if you'd go to hell but this doesn't need to turn into a religious debate.
 

vivy310

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Originally posted by: SoylentGreen
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: Kelvrick
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: Kelvrick
Originally posted by: waggy
did as you said and read the last paragraph. a block of crap is a pain to read.

ok i been in a few bad motocycle accidents. last one really messed up my right hip. BUT HE IS A LOSER..wait let me change that. HE WAS A LOSER.

he took his life? pfft he had a 3 year old son. while i do feel sorry for him for getting so messed up from it he still had a reason to live. now what is his son going to do without a father? pfft.

Shut up. So did you even read the whole thing? He's going to lose his house, bills piling up, what is he going to do with his son, go live in a car? The way he got fvcked up, its unlikely he coulda got back on his feet financially because it'll be pretty damn hard to get back on his feet financially. Dying probably eliminated all his bills right there, at least taking the burdon off of his family.

yeah good idea.

have a child go without his father! yeah thats a great idea! no there is no other way like bankruptcy or disability or such heck no. blowing his brains out was a better idea. yeap smart man. oh and better off for his family! yeap do kids need a father? heck no! they play no part in raising a healthy kid at all!

I guess you'ven ever heard of anyone ever becoming a good person that was raised without a father? Never heard of single parenting? Hell, all my dad ever do was fight with my mom and gamble away our house, cars, and make me move from house to house with my mom, brother, and two sisters about 4 times within 3 years after the divorce. Yea, I couldn't have lived without that sh1t

EDIT: No use in arguing any more, it does neither of us any good because we're not going to convince the other of anything.

yeah i know it happens. My wife's best friend is raising a great little boy. the father decided he was not ready to be a father (at 17 and took off). This kid is great! i take him fishing, to baseball games whenever i can.

But it is rare. It is best if both parents can raise the child. But you are right it can and does happen. Just the odds are so stacked against the kid now.

Quite judgemental from your little computer chair, aren't you.

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Waggy is a jerk
 

vivy310

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Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: sygyzy
Vic - You are calling me an asshole? Even if he was union and insured, that's still $1.3M wasted. Doesn't change the outcome one bit.
Wasted on what?
The doctors and hospitals got paid, didn't they?
The guy said he wished he would have died in the collision, didn't he?

I can't believe that this person had his life and body destroyed by the recklessness of someone else... to the point where fell into a depression so deep that he decided to take his own life... and all your selfish little twisted petty sh!t cares about is that is that your insurance premiums might go up a couple of pennies.

Some of you people sicken me... :disgust:

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I agree with you Vic....some of the people on this post sickens me as well.
 

vivy310

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Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: Cashmoney995
Originally posted by: waggy
did as you said and read the last paragraph. a block of crap is a pain to read.

ok i been in a few bad motocycle accidents. last one really messed up my right hip. BUT HE IS A LOSER..wait let me change that. HE WAS A LOSER.

he took his life? pfft he had a 3 year old son. while i do feel sorry for him for getting so messed up from it he still had a reason to live. now what is his son going to do without a father? pfft.

He won't be a burden to his son. And, his son won't have to work to pay off the debts. All debts are absolved after death. I would never want to live through what he lived through. I would have definetly wanted to die.

actually not all debts are forgivin. They will take what they need out of his estate. I agree i wouldn't want to live through what he did. But There is NO way i would leave that mess to my family nor abandon my child.

Orginally posted by: DaiShan
Either read the whole story or go to hell.

I did read it and your point is what? HE killed himself because the his medical bills and debt was to high so he took the easy way out. HE IS A LOSER.

I'm not the one going to hell he is. sorry.

don't like it? oh well. HE abandoned his 3 year old. he stuck his wife with that debt. Yea cry me a river that he was depressed. there are options for people with depression.

life sucks. I feel for his family though his family now lost everything he worked for to pay off that debt, they have to pay for his grave, his son is going to grow up without his father, his parents are going to wonder if they could have done something.

if you want to feel sorry for someone feel sorry for the child. Not this guy.
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Lets see how you would deal with the situation if you were in his shoes....sh!t talker
 

geckojohn

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That is really sad :(.

Please everyone... DON"T RIDE MOTORCYCLE'S. THEY ARE DANGEROUS AND CAN TAKE YOUR LIFE! I will never ride a motorcycle....
 

Yo Ma Ma

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What a shame that the guy went through all of that work only to take his own life. It seemed at the time of the writing he recognized the value of hanging around for his son despite his own depression, too bad he couldn't hang on to that thought.

It was probably the money stuff that put him over the edge, he seemed pretty well off physically for what he'd gone through, and could type all that out, not paralyzed, etc., not that bad for a horrendous accident.

Motorcycles themselves are not that dangerous, but inconsiderate/dangerous auto drivers can kill you.
 

Jzero

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Originally posted by: Ornery
"Mortage is months behind, ditto bills, one creditor calls daily, even after I explained that I have no money for them, but they come right after the roof over my head, my sons stomach, the lights gas phone, the jeep, aol and the rest of $2700+ monthly bills short term disability (teamsters, disapointing) put $544 per month (not week) toward."

Any thoughts of ever riding a bike on the road went out the window when I got married, and especially when I had kids. That decision was made before I got married, when a fellow Sears employee was killed by a woman who made a left in front of his bike. He left the most beautiful wife, who was also pregnant. Made an impression on me... sort of like this OP.

For, me it was getting my drivers license. My father rode throughout most of his youth, and I always wanted to sort of follow in his footsteps.

But when I got my license and began driving, I realized - most of the "cagers" don't know how to drive. It's scary enough being among them while in a cage of my own. You can be so careful, so well-trained. You can be a perfect rider, and still this can happen to you because some moron in a metal box just doesn't care.
 

Nanotech

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Originally posted by: sygyzy
Sad story. Saddest part is he took all that money (I am pretty sure he didn't pay for even half of the $1.3 M in hospital bills) and then ended his life. People wonder why cost of healthcare is so high. It's because you are covering the uninsured. And I don't care, mind you. If he had continued his life, raised his son, etc then sure, it's worth it. But he got all that and then killed himself.

Yep, he's a f&cking idiot!

WTF, was he thinking he was cool being in so many near death accidents prior to his getting mutilated for not wearing any protective gear while going on a 25+ mile ride at night with speeds reaching 70 mph.

My initial reaction was to feel sorry for him but the more I think about it the more I don't. He ruined his life, his son's life, and more than likely his ex-girlfriend's.
 

Goosemaster

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Originally posted by: vivy310
Originally posted by: SoylentGreen
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: Kelvrick
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: Kelvrick
Originally posted by: waggy
did as you said and read the last paragraph. a block of crap is a pain to read.

ok i been in a few bad motocycle accidents. last one really messed up my right hip. BUT HE IS A LOSER..wait let me change that. HE WAS A LOSER.

he took his life? pfft he had a 3 year old son. while i do feel sorry for him for getting so messed up from it he still had a reason to live. now what is his son going to do without a father? pfft.

Shut up. So did you even read the whole thing? He's going to lose his house, bills piling up, what is he going to do with his son, go live in a car? The way he got fvcked up, its unlikely he coulda got back on his feet financially because it'll be pretty damn hard to get back on his feet financially. Dying probably eliminated all his bills right there, at least taking the burdon off of his family.

yeah good idea.

have a child go without his father! yeah thats a great idea! no there is no other way like bankruptcy or disability or such heck no. blowing his brains out was a better idea. yeap smart man. oh and better off for his family! yeap do kids need a father? heck no! they play no part in raising a healthy kid at all!

I guess you'ven ever heard of anyone ever becoming a good person that was raised without a father? Never heard of single parenting? Hell, all my dad ever do was fight with my mom and gamble away our house, cars, and make me move from house to house with my mom, brother, and two sisters about 4 times within 3 years after the divorce. Yea, I couldn't have lived without that sh1t

EDIT: No use in arguing any more, it does neither of us any good because we're not going to convince the other of anything.

yeah i know it happens. My wife's best friend is raising a great little boy. the father decided he was not ready to be a father (at 17 and took off). This kid is great! i take him fishing, to baseball games whenever i can.

But it is rare. It is best if both parents can raise the child. But you are right it can and does happen. Just the odds are so stacked against the kid now.

Quite judgemental from your little computer chair, aren't you.

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Waggy is a jerk

Quite judgemental is severely understating it.


The wisest thing for you would be to shut the hell up.

As people have said, it is quite easy to pass out imprudent judgement, especially if you are in good health and your life isn't as bad as that which you are judging.

As for your rash and frankly brutish comments portraying the Motorcycle driver, I must comment that it would be in your best interests to reevaluate your menthods of communication.

This man did not lose his possesions. He lost his BODY.

What good could he have been to his son? Seriosuly. Frankly. He would have been a nuisance or a grevious responsibility, and would cause his son more pity than joy.

Although society greatly respects and admires the emotional and psychological aspects of the father and son relationship, it is important that we do not thrive in hypocrisy. Physcial aspects and responisibilities do play a significant role in child development. Perhaps the child would benefit from the epathy that he would develop while taking care of his father, but that would still mean that that would be time spent away from playing with friends. Those are obviously simple and undeveloped examples, but with time, you could easily come up with one of your own.

Basically, try to think of it from the POV of the father. He had lost all self-respect becuase he had physically lost his capable physical body, and in his opinion his reason for living did not outweigh his mental and physical pain.

He made a choice, and I respect his decision because franky, i will not allow myself to be so petty as to judge someone who has lost everything for the sake of coming off as the greatest person ever to live.

As a brutishly honest man, i will admit that in such a situation, his choice would not be out of the question for me. I would rather have my family remember me for the joy I brought them than for the sadness. If anything, my goal in life is to achieve such success as to leave everyone happy for having known me when I die.

Let the man die in peace. He was no a loser. He was indeed human.

Antagonistic comment that I hopefulyl will not regret:

You animal.
 

Goosemaster

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Originally posted by: Nanotech
Originally posted by: sygyzy
Sad story. Saddest part is he took all that money (I am pretty sure he didn't pay for even half of the $1.3 M in hospital bills) and then ended his life. People wonder why cost of healthcare is so high. It's because you are covering the uninsured. And I don't care, mind you. If he had continued his life, raised his son, etc then sure, it's worth it. But he got all that and then killed himself.

Yep, he's a f&cking idiot!

WTF, was he thinking he was cool being in so many near death accidents prior to his getting mutilated for not wearing any protective gear while going on a 25+ mile ride at night with speeds reaching 70 mph.

My initial reaction was to feel sorry for him but the more I think about it the more I don't. He ruined his life, his son's life, and more than likely his ex-girlfriend's.

Why are all of you being so damn antagonisitc? It;s not like the man didn's pay for his mistakes. If anything, just go away and stop talking about him. That would mean much more than insulting him.


These insults only show how petty and hostile people on here are. I won't go are far as to say that you are immature, becuase:

A) that is subjective
B) many of you guys are indeed quite wise

but still, I am in disbelief as to how many people responded in this fashion.
 

halik

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Originally posted by: geckojohn
That is really sad :(.

Please everyone... DON"T RIDE MOTORCYCLE'S. THEY ARE DANGEROUS AND CAN TAKE YOUR LIFE! I will never ride a motorcycle....


hehehe thats pretty humours and shortsigted comment. Just about anything can be dangerous and take your life. Like that 16 year old girl that died in a museum after slipping down the strairs.

Perhaps if the guy never picked up riding, he would die on the same spot in a car accident or something like that. I do believe that if you time is up, it's gonna happen one way or another.