What are typical sport motorcycles and engine sizes?displacement and such.Whats a good bike for a beginer.Is that haybusarider guy still around?
Motorcycle help.
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The Stigenator
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For a beginner who wants to go the sports bike route:
Anything under 500cc. That gives you the Ninja 250 and 500 and the Suzuki GS500 and also teh Buell Blast and the Honda Nighthawk 250/450 (used) and the Honda Reflex (sports scooter) and the Honda Silverwing (600cc sports scooter).
If your under 21, you got to take teh MSF course. www.msf-usa.org if not its still worth taking it for the 10% discount in insurance. Shop insurance to see which bikes comes out the lowest. Personally choose between the Ninja 500 and the Suzuki GS500.
There are other bikes that might fit the bill just check into them.
If you have more Q's PM me I am going to bed. Haybusarider is still around.
TGG
PS: my bike is below in the sig.
Anything under 500cc. That gives you the Ninja 250 and 500 and the Suzuki GS500 and also teh Buell Blast and the Honda Nighthawk 250/450 (used) and the Honda Reflex (sports scooter) and the Honda Silverwing (600cc sports scooter).
If your under 21, you got to take teh MSF course. www.msf-usa.org if not its still worth taking it for the 10% discount in insurance. Shop insurance to see which bikes comes out the lowest. Personally choose between the Ninja 500 and the Suzuki GS500.
There are other bikes that might fit the bill just check into them.
If you have more Q's PM me I am going to bed. Haybusarider is still around.
TGG
PS: my bike is below in the sig.
Hows the yamaha yzf600r ? I've never ridden before and was thinkin about buyin a 96-97 for around 4-5000. Bike looks sweet...
The Stigenator
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the YZF600R might be a bit of a bike for a newbie (90 hp vs 120hp on the R6).. but its much more docile than its cousin the R6.
However since you want a crotch rocket lookalike.. get a kawasaki Ninja 500R(55hp). Its a sweet bike for a beginner that will keep you happy for a long time.
However since you want a crotch rocket lookalike.. get a kawasaki Ninja 500R(55hp). Its a sweet bike for a beginner that will keep you happy for a long time.
id get a gsxr600 for a first bike. Mine was a gixxer 750 then i went for a gsx1300r and thats the highest ill go(shes gonna kill me).
An older 600 is OK for a beginer to start with, after you take the MSF.
If you plan on doing any highway riding, a 250 or 500 will do OK but you'll have to rev the crap out of the engine to keep up with the flow of traffic.
I don't think the YZF600R puts out 90bhp. it's probably more in the 75-78bhp range.
As far as typical engine sizes and displacements, you've got 250cc,500cc,600cc,750cc,900cc,1000cc, then some other oddball sizes.
Then you have inline-4s V-twins, twins, V-3(Triuph is the only one that makes these anymore).
Most importantly you want to find a bike that fits well and is comfortable. Go look at some at dealerships and sit on them for about 10-15 minutes to see if you could be comfortable on it on long trips.
If you plan on doing any highway riding, a 250 or 500 will do OK but you'll have to rev the crap out of the engine to keep up with the flow of traffic.
I don't think the YZF600R puts out 90bhp. it's probably more in the 75-78bhp range.
As far as typical engine sizes and displacements, you've got 250cc,500cc,600cc,750cc,900cc,1000cc, then some other oddball sizes.
Then you have inline-4s V-twins, twins, V-3(Triuph is the only one that makes these anymore).
Most importantly you want to find a bike that fits well and is comfortable. Go look at some at dealerships and sit on them for about 10-15 minutes to see if you could be comfortable on it on long trips.
<< What are typical sport motorcycles and engine sizes?displacement and such.Whats a good bike for a beginer.Is that haybusarider guy still around? >>
Don't you get tired of asking the same question?
Dont got anything above 1000cc's thats for sure. on a 250 you wont feel safe on the freeway. So a 600 is fine. My expeiriece with yamaha is that their street bikes are uncomfortable!
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<< id get a gsxr600 for a first bike. Mine was a gixxer 750 then i went for a gsx1300r and thats the highest ill go(shes gonna kill me). >>
That's very impressive, but bad advice. You want something sporty, stick with the Ninja 500 (EX500) or the GS500. Learn to ride it without falling off. Then get a YZF, GSXR, whatever. I've seen more first time riders bite off more than they can chew with a "little" 600 than I can shake a stick at. 600s are fast, and things happen very quickly.
Just curious, what was it like tryin to learn on gsxr600 ? Did you drop it at all? Was it easy to get used to? I'm plannin on doin a lot of freeway ridin...
<< Just curious, what was it like tryin to learn on gsxr600 ? Did you drop it at all? Was it easy to get used to? I'm plannin on doin a lot of freeway ridin... >>
Freeway riding? On a GSXR600? Hope you like carpal tunnel, cuz that's about the worst bike in the world besides Duc 748/996's for freeway riding. Sounds like you need a Goldwing.
Fausto
my first bike was a honda cx500. Probably one of my favorite bikes ever riding. My mom has a little 350 honda that's a blast to ride on the highway, and surprisingly, also performs well on the highway.
My next bike will be a suzy gixxer 750 or tl1000. Still debating between the two.
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My next bike will be a suzy gixxer 750 or tl1000. Still debating between the two.
-=bmacd=-
I had a 94 ninja 500 in college... It had good amount of power and would pull hard up until about 100 mph.
Topped out around 120-125.
Driving position is better than average. I once drove from Boston, MA to Harrisburg, PA in one day... something like 420 miles in 8 hours
on that bike... only minimal soreness.
I highly recommend a 500 for a first sport bike.... My next bike will definitely be a touring bike or cruiser... I am liking the Valkyrie
Topped out around 120-125.
Driving position is better than average. I once drove from Boston, MA to Harrisburg, PA in one day... something like 420 miles in 8 hours
on that bike... only minimal soreness.
I highly recommend a 500 for a first sport bike.... My next bike will definitely be a touring bike or cruiser... I am liking the Valkyrie
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My first bike was an '81 CBX with a striaght 6 cyl. Trust me, that was not a good bike to start off with. I dropped it over twice, and had a hell of a time getting it back up.
Was very comfy tho. It was not a crotch rocket, it was a cruiser.
Was very comfy tho. It was not a crotch rocket, it was a cruiser.
silverpig
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It also depends on your physical size. If you're 75 pounds and 5' nothing, you probably won't want a 600cc bike. On the other hand, if you're 6'3" 220, you may be a little uncomfortable on a 250. For example, I've talked with a lot of guys who say the CBR 600 is more comfortable than the r6, but for taller guys the r6 is a bit better because it forces you into a bit more of an aggressive body position. On the CBR you're sitting up a bit more and it doesn't feel right. But for a shorter person who can get away with sitting more upright, the CBR offers a more comfortable position.
I agree with Silverpig... The best bike for a beginner will depend on how big you are. And if you're new, buy used, cause it will fall over on you. Even if it's just because you didn't put the kickstand down right.
BTW, tomorrow I pickup my brand new TL1000! Woohoo!
BTW, tomorrow I pickup my brand new TL1000! Woohoo!
<< I agree with Silverpig... The best bike for a beginner will depend on how big you are. And if you're new, buy used, cause it will fall over on you. Even if it's just because you didn't put the kickstand down right.
BTW, tomorrow I pickup my brand new TL1000! Woohoo! >>
Congrats. I love that bike. Is the one you're getting have the full fairing?
The 500r looks like crap. The thing isn't much faster than the 250r yet it weighs quite a lot more and costs a load more.
I have a 250 that I have modified greatly (puts out over 30bhp) and it fits me perfectly. Sure, for freeway riding you do have to rev the crap out of it, but the inline two cylinder powerplant loves to run wide open. The 250 redlines at 14k and hits the limiter at 14.5k; the power curve drops off at about 13k. Considering the fact that a stock 250 weighs just a bit more than 300lbs wet and puts out ~25bhp, it has a darn good power/weight ratio. Although the stock suspension is made for a 90lb rider.
I've made numerous long-haul interstate trips on the 250 where I keep the speed above 75MPH for hours at a time. 75MPH in 6th puts the tach at about 10k. 10k for this engine is its home. The engine will last anywhere from 40-60k miles before it needs to be rebuilt (or buy a new one for $200 on Ebay).
Don't get anything that has more power than a 500r. You won't learn how to handle it properly. Once you have a year or two of experience, take the bike to a track day and take lessons. Once you're a skilled rider, then move up to a 600+cc bike. I see all of these guys on new Gixxer's and R1's and they only stick around for a couple of weeks before they disappear (either from crashing or they wake up). I find it amusing when I see someone riding one of those bikes when yet he can't even make a simple turn.
No matter what size of bike you buy, remember that taking the MSF course is the single best thing that you can do.
BTW- I've recorded actual speeds of 100mph on the 250 on windy days and 100+ on calm days. Remember that all motorcycles have their speedometers set to ready about 10% high. If it shows 70mph, you're actually doing about 63. Kawasaki claims that a stock 250 has a 1/4mi time of 15.5sec. But, I have a good friend that has a stock bike with a 15t countersprocket (which changes the torque output and makes the bike accelerate slower) and he ran 14sec 1/4mi consistantly. For further information, check out the Ninja250 Rider's Club. There is a FAQ detailing everything from newbie questions to what parts are needed for rebuilding the engine.
I have a 250 that I have modified greatly (puts out over 30bhp) and it fits me perfectly. Sure, for freeway riding you do have to rev the crap out of it, but the inline two cylinder powerplant loves to run wide open. The 250 redlines at 14k and hits the limiter at 14.5k; the power curve drops off at about 13k. Considering the fact that a stock 250 weighs just a bit more than 300lbs wet and puts out ~25bhp, it has a darn good power/weight ratio. Although the stock suspension is made for a 90lb rider.
I've made numerous long-haul interstate trips on the 250 where I keep the speed above 75MPH for hours at a time. 75MPH in 6th puts the tach at about 10k. 10k for this engine is its home. The engine will last anywhere from 40-60k miles before it needs to be rebuilt (or buy a new one for $200 on Ebay).
Don't get anything that has more power than a 500r. You won't learn how to handle it properly. Once you have a year or two of experience, take the bike to a track day and take lessons. Once you're a skilled rider, then move up to a 600+cc bike. I see all of these guys on new Gixxer's and R1's and they only stick around for a couple of weeks before they disappear (either from crashing or they wake up). I find it amusing when I see someone riding one of those bikes when yet he can't even make a simple turn.
No matter what size of bike you buy, remember that taking the MSF course is the single best thing that you can do.
BTW- I've recorded actual speeds of 100mph on the 250 on windy days and 100+ on calm days. Remember that all motorcycles have their speedometers set to ready about 10% high. If it shows 70mph, you're actually doing about 63. Kawasaki claims that a stock 250 has a 1/4mi time of 15.5sec. But, I have a good friend that has a stock bike with a 15t countersprocket (which changes the torque output and makes the bike accelerate slower) and he ran 14sec 1/4mi consistantly. For further information, check out the Ninja250 Rider's Club. There is a FAQ detailing everything from newbie questions to what parts are needed for rebuilding the engine.
<< Oh yeah, I'd like something that looks like a crotch rocket...not like the bike in your sig... >>
I've been away from bikes for a while. What are people calling "crotch rockets" now?
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<< Oh yeah, I'd like something that looks like a crotch rocket...not like the bike in your sig... >>
I've been away from bikes for a while. What are people calling "crotch rockets" now? >>
Yikes! you really have been out of the game for awhile now. Crotch rockets=sport styled bikes. like a suzuki gsxr series or kawasaki ninjas. Any bike where you seem to be leaning over or has more plastic than chrome i guess could be considered a crotch rocket.
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<< Oh yeah, I'd like something that looks like a crotch rocket...not like the bike in your sig... >>
I've been away from bikes for a while. What are people calling "crotch rockets" now? >>
Yikes! you really have been out of the game for awhile now. Crotch rockets=sport styled bikes. like a suzuki gsxr series or kawasaki ninjas. Any bike where you seem to be leaning over or has more plastic than chrome i guess could be considered a crotch rocket.
-=bmacd=- >>
And "The_good_guy's" Suzuki doesn't count?
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