Mother of all speeding tickets

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Pacfanweb

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No way that bike was doing 205. As has already been stated, that method of speed measurement is totally inaccurate, especially when done from a plane. The cop only has to be a few feet off when he clicks his timer and the speed is changed drastically.
Not that this is going to help the biker......150 or 205, he was still raping the speed limit.
 

Pacfanweb

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Ha, the cop said that his stopwatch was more accurate than radar. Riiiiight. What a yahoo.

BTW, I agree, nice server...I got a steady 358kbps.
 

Thegonagle

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Highway 61 is not an Interstate. In that area, it has intersections every mile or so; it's not even considered a freeway because it lacks controlled access (on-ramps and off-ramps).

I must say, in MN, the fine might be surprisingly low compared to some other states. Of course, 140 over is still not a cheap ticket by any means.

And I agree that the count could have been off by up to a second, but it was probably not off by more than 1/2 second. So the dude probably was going closer to 200 than 150.
 

paulney

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Originally posted by: DrPizza
As a physics teacher, I find it pointless for the officer to have a hundredths digit on the stopwatch. Rarely do I have students who can master such precision with a stopwatch. (I did have one student a few years ago who could come within 2 or 3 hundredths though, but that's 1 out of very many. +/- one second is on the extreme high side. It's rare that I run across anyone off by more than half a second. With .5 seconds error, that translates to 184 mph.

With such a short time, .5 seconds error is pretty significant. Had it been more like 30 seconds being timed, the .5 second error would have been less significant.


As far as I know, the stopwatch is integrated into an onboard unit which automatically calculates the speed for the officer. That is, they don't carry a runner coache's stopwatch in a pocket and whip it out when they see a speeding driver. They punch a button twice when the driver corsses markers - and the unit displays the speed.

BTW, if you slow down before hitting the second market enough to average your speed below the speed limit - they can't issue you a citation. You could just stop before the second marker (if you know what it is, cause cops don't have to use painted markers on the road) and wait until your speed average drops safely enough. Then continue.
 

Gurck

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Originally posted by: LikeLinus
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: welst10
That 205 figure has a big error margin since the cop only recorded for 4.39 sec with his bare eyes. It's reasonable to give bare eye measurements a + or -1 sec error margin which translated to 25%. So that guy may actually be doing 155mph.
Correct. Airplane tickets are notoriously inaccurate, and cops are known to guess on the high side. Unfortunately for this guy, he will not be able to argue that he was not speeding, and is going to have a hard time in court.
Ironically, had he been on the German Autobahn, which has much lower accident and fatality rates than US freeways despite carrying similar traffic loads, he would not have gotten a ticket at all. But then, speed kills right? :roll:

I thought i just heard awhile back that the German goverment was considering putting speedlimits on the Autobahn because of the major accidents they've been having the past few years.

Psst, it's taboo to point out ways in which Europe isn't perfect, only the US may be put down here, kthx

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Originally posted by: Pacfanweb
No way that bike was doing 205. As has already been stated, that method of speed measurement is totally inaccurate, especially when done from a plane. The cop only has to be a few feet off when he clicks his timer and the speed is changed drastically.
Not that this is going to help the biker......150 or 205, he was still raping the speed limit.

Agreed.
 

tranceport

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I have a buddy with a hiyabusa in fl who does 215. I made friends with him after watching his videos of it. Just talkin bike stuffs.

On a side note. I hate how cops try to tell you how dangerous it is for you to speed... No sh!t. I'm speeding for the excitment.
 

CVSiN

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Well.. I own the predecessor to this bike the CBR929RR...
It has been dynoed at 143HP at the rear wheel... with light mods...
it has been radared On the track pinned at 190 actual radar MPH was 185...

this is the brand new CBR1000RR.. 160hp STOCK....
easy to get that to 180 HP with just an exaust and a powercommander...
very easy in fact... less than 2000 in bolt ons to get 20 HP..

this bike should be VERY close too 200 if not over....
this years crop of liter bikes makes the Busa and the ZX12 look like tricycles...
the horsepower this year is higher stock than any other bike built for the streets ever... even the once King GSXR1000 fell short of the Honda, Kawasaki and Yamaha this year.. they are all in the 160-170 range stock...

I agree that the stopwatch tickets are very inaccurate but alot of the people talking in this thread have no clue what this years bikes are actually capable of...
 

Thegonagle

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Originally posted by: z0mb13
wow and he didnt even have a license??

It sounds like he had a driver's license, but not the required motorcycle endorsement, which licensed drivers in MN must take an additional DPS (Department of Public Safety, our state's name for the "DMV") test to receive.
 

CVSiN

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pretty common id say on average at least 75% of the peeps I meet on sport bikes do not have a real MC license....
pretty moronic
 

Turkish

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that cop is a moron. he thinks he can beat physics. what an idiot, "I know I am right and I know he was doing exactly 205 mph." :roll: Yeah right asswipe :roll:
 

Fausto

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From the 12-R forums...

All right, I was the one who got the ticket and it is time to clear some things up. For one, I was riding a 2003 Honda RC51, "heavily modified" with 2 Brothers slip on pipes and, well thats all the mods I have unless you count the "I stop for wh***s" sticker. Next, the bike wasn't impounded, it was towed so it wouldn't be in the roadway. Ok, on to the tickets. 205...uh no. I am personal friends with the owner of "Hitman Motorsports" and tonight, Sept. 22, we did a top speed run on his dyno, in 6th gear, and maxed nearly 60mph slower than I was arrested for. The "no motorcycle endorsement" is because my licence was expired, I do have a motorcycle endoresement for all you people digging into me about that. The stop watch method may be accurate at times, but this is un-conceivable for my motorcycle to approach 205. Honda's RC211v, which is Honda's MotoGP race bike, 5 cyclinders and 268 horespower, just broke 200mph on the track within the last week. And we are talking about a 1/2 to 3/4 million dollar bike. And for you gear-heads, I had on Joe Rocket Boots, Shoei helmet, Leather gloves, Ballistic coat, and leather bottoms. Also, both of us were arrested, and no, the slower one did not get a warning, he was ticketed for 111mph on a F4i. I hope this clears things up for everybody, I am just sick of everyone saying things about what they dont know, making me look like this horrific person. People speed, and if anyone knows anything about the "Flood Run" (which was the ride I was on, which by the way benefits the Gillettes Children Fund) I would be a hell of a lot more concerned about the 7,000 bar-hopping motorcyclist out on the road. 99% of the people you hear things from are misinformed. If you have questions, I will answer them. And one last note, this is information you don't know, the pilot who clocked me, was clocking me, the F4i, and flying his plane at 110mph all at the same time. Think about that for a second.

So, no turbo, no fscking way he was doing 205.