Most significant event of all history?

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sparkyclarky

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Originally posted by: thehstrybean
Originally posted by: sparkyclarky
Originally posted by: thehstrybean
Originally posted by: NL5
Originally posted by: thehstrybean
Originally posted by: NL5
Originally posted by: dbuttcheek69
Originally posted by: TallBill
I'm still waiting for a link to a book or reference or something that says that jesus exists.

give me a link that PROVES that Goerge Washington existed. did you actually see him? do you know anybody that actually has seen him? how can you PROVE it then? You probably read it in books right?

well I would count the bible as a book.

Wow! Are you really that...well, nevermind. Anyway, Geoarge Washington existed. Not only do we have his body, his house, his writings, but COUNTLESS references to him in independent works. Not so for Jesus. NOTHING was written about him at the time he was supposed to be alive - NOTHING (and this was during the Roman era - the Romans kept EXCELLENT records BTW). We have no body, no home, NOT ONE THING WRITTEN by him. NOTHING. The only eveidence is a book wriiten somewhere between fifty and a hundred years AFTYER his supposed death.

Actually, if I remember correctly, the Romans do have record of Jesus...If I can find the book, I'll quote it for ya...
EDIT: Sweet...I found the website, my copy of "Antiquities" is still in my locker...Josephus references Jesus in Antiquities 18:63-64 "Now there was about this time Jesus, a wise man IF IT BE LAWFUL TO CALL HIM A MAN, for he was a doer of wonders, A TEACHER OF SUCH MEN AS RECEIVE THE TRUTH WITH PLEASURE. He drew many after him BOTH OF THE JEWS AND THE GENTILES. HE WAS THE CHRIST. When Pilate, at the suggestion of the principal men among us, had condemned him to the cross, those that loved him at the first did not forsake him, FOR HE APPEARED TO THEM ALIVE AGAIN THE THIRD DAY, AS THE DIVINE PROPHETS HAD FORETOLD THESE AND THEN THOUSAND OTHER WONDERFUL THINGS ABOUT HIM, and the tribe of Christians, so named from him, are not extinct at this day"
Tactius also mentions Jesus a lot in his writings...


Sorry, but that was written almost 100 years AFTER Jesus's supposed death, by a man that wasn't alive at the time of Jesus's supposed life. There is no mention of Jesus by anyone that was alive at the time he was supposed to be alive. There is no record by the Romans of his Crucifiction (the kept very good records). Odd........

Actually, Josephus lived 37-100 AD....That's Jesus' time...


Actually, that's around 10 years past the time of Christ.

Actually (man, a lot of those around...), Biblical scholars say John, the last gospel to be written, was written down in 90 AD...Scholars say this is 40 years after Christ, which would put Christ at ~50 AD...Right in Josephus' time...


Everything I've heard places Christ's birth at about 4 BC and his death at about 29 AD.
 

Wuffsunie

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Moon landing.

Proof positive that we can get off this miserable rock.

At least if we want to :| For some stupid reason we're still obsessed with killing each other over pieces of it instead of finding new pieces of land to kill each other over.
 

Turkish

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The Ottoman Empire taking over Istanbul (Constantinople for the Byzantine Empire) in 1453.
 

shortylickens

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First and foremost: Preceeding your statements with the word "ACTUALLY" doesnt automatically make a person correct. This may seem trivial, but too many folks seem to believe it.

B: Am I the only person who thinks the original poster is looking for easy help on a college course?

Tertiary: Despite my not believing Jesus was the Messiah, I still believe his existence was the MOST significant event in human histroy. If for no other reason than all the people who came to power and made changes based on what they could convince the masses to believe about him.
 

GasX

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Ultimately, it is folly to identify the most significant single event as all history is so intertwined.

Some butterfly farting in timbuktu might have caused a weather disruption that led to a hurricane that blew a fishing ship so far out to sea that it caught an as yet undiscovered fish that was sold to a person when the ship got back to port and ended up poisoning the entire family including the 2 year old child who was going to grow up and become the anti-christ and enslave humanity for 10,000 years...

Just because it isn't on the History channel doesn't mean it did not happen...


 

Kipper

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The problem with this thread is that it's ultimately ethnocentric, no matter whatever answer you give. Believe it or not, there are plenty of people in the East and indegenous cultures who don't give a fart about anything remotely Christian.

The history of the West is not "true" history, although it happens to the most dominant in today's discourse.
 

thehstrybean

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Originally posted by: Mwilding
Ultimately, it is folly to identify the most significant single event as all history is so intertwined.

Some butterfly farting in timbuktu might have caused a weather disruption that led to a hurricane that blew a fishing ship so far out to sea that it caught an as yet undiscovered fish that was sold to a person when the ship got back to port and ended up poisoning the entire family including the 2 year old child who was going to grow up and become the anti-christ and enslave humanity for 10,000 years...

Just because it isn't on the History channel doesn't mean it did not happen...
That's very true...ROFLMAO...:cookie: