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Most Illegal Immigrant Families Collect Welfare
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Steeplerot
Lifer
I have no clue if you are being patronizing or really that ate up with the scapegoating going on for years in the media so you are desensitized to reality. But it's insulting to rational peoples intellegence. Quite a few of you in this thread are not stupid. You need to check ourselves.
Hayabusa Rider
Admin Emeritus & Elite Member
Then you'd better start reading multigenerational welfare statistics, because you are coming across as a real dumb ass.
Steeplerot
Lifer
This is a lie. You cannot collect any form of welfare with id and such. Your thread is bullshit.
Hayabusa Rider
Admin Emeritus & Elite Member
So now the Census Bureau is bullshit. In other news the earth is flat.
boomerang
Lifer
Hmm, maybe his fudge too?
Steeplerot
Lifer
Its not the statistics its the interpretations for an agenda based off or the stereotypes you want to see. Bunk like this thread.
Hayabusa Rider
Admin Emeritus & Elite Member
Yet the breakdown is quite specific. Let me tell you about this old white guy who has latinos bag his groceries. Oh wait, I don't. I work in an area with white customers in wealthy suburbs. Oh wait again, I work in an inner city where people actually boast they game the system, who abuse those who try to get ahead and who have babies to profit from the system. Oh, but all of them are like that right? I mean someone like me would assume all minorities are automatically crap, right? Oh wait again, I work with minorities and they're pissed at the same people I describe. Why those black people must be white!
If anyone has stereotyped people it's you and right now you are having your butt handed to you in your hat for it. Stop being a racist.
Hayabusa Rider
Admin Emeritus & Elite Member
You were born stupid weren't you? If you are born into welfare you can STAY on it as long as you don't have a job. If you are pregnant then you get more. Let me guess you've never set foot in a large American city have you?
boomerang
Lifer
They won't be canceled, they'll be increased! It's an investment after all... D: They're potential voters and whichever party can supply the most freebies figures they'll get the vote.
Borrowing $0.40 of every dollar to support people who come here illegally from another country! It only makes sense to a progressive. For those that haven't figured it out, progressives are winning. They'll bankrupt the nation and blame it on someone else. They have the mindset of an adolescent with no worldy experience. No concern for the cost, they just want. They'll get it too if they can find someone else to pay for it.
We either take the country back or we lose it. It's coming down to that. Don't fool yourself and think otherwise.
boomerang
Lifer
Save the racism garbage for your progressive pals. That ship sailed a long time ago. You've over-hyped the term to the point that it's meaningless. It's no longer effective.
Steeplerot
Lifer
Lol ok I do live in a big city and volunteer social worker. So which mysterious programs are you reffering to exactly? I can think of many real people who could use this "giveaway"program you speak of.
Funny I seem to be drawing a blank here for some odd reason. I wonder why? Hmmm.
If someone is gaming the system folks do their best to catch offenders. I hate to break down reality for you likevthis but fraud is actually not as common as people think. The whole ripping off people helpingcyou carries a major social stigma in Latino culture and here in the USA you guys bullshit does not add up.
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It is my understanding this whole "anchor baby" thing falls under the 14th Amendment. So to fix this problem, it would take the Federal Government to close the loophole. The Democrats and Republicans are way to busy fighting each other to do anything useful and with the big election coming up in 2012, I don't see Congress fixing the "anchor baby" problem any time soon.
Steeplerot
Lifer
There is none. Its another case of being so far off the deep end they think everyone else thinks their shit for brains ideas are accepted by the real world outside of their narrow worldview fed to them.
Its bullshit white hypocrisy in plain view to the world backed up by the white dominated corporate media that swears racism is gone in the USA. (So every one else should stfu and accept their status quo. Not happening.
I don't think itsall racism just more vullshit mainly from folks who make it their business to get imo others peoples shit endlessly because their worst fear in life is that someone is getting shit for free and they are not getting a cut.
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Hayabusa Rider
Admin Emeritus & Elite Member
Come to NY and work in Rochester. Come to NY and see how we give millions away to help people buy school supplies with so strings and how the HDTVs and booze and cash machines were emptied, leaving guess what on the shelves? School supplies.
There's a real problem with social programs, and part of it is you. There's a genuine need for them but when someone comes up with an idea to make people get training and have to work for their money you know what? Those people are old racist white people. That's why so many needed programs are under attack- in many cases they are perpetual and enslaving.
Want to make a difference? If you get a check and are able you need to work for it. If you have more children you can't use them to buy more than basic food and clothing. Have a cashless system like we do with flexible spending accounts. Mandatory education or guess what? Funds are going to be scarce. Give tax incentives to companies who hire people off the roles.
There are many things that can be done, but people like you call those who suggest them are "racist" and if there's something that sticks to any politician who were to put sincere effort into meaningful reform that would be it, and I suspect you'd be one yelling it.
Amazing...
In recent time, most of the welfare did go to Wall street banksters
and affiliated wealthy people that did receive trucks of money
from Barack "subside the rich" Obama...
Of course, keeping the latinos or whoever is at the society s bottom
as responsible for the country s quasi bankruptcy is a convenient smoke screen..
Economist Kenneth Galbraith was right when he said that most people of his country have not the sentiment of injustice devellopped enough ...
In recent time, most of the welfare did go to Wall street banksters
and affiliated wealthy people that did receive trucks of money
from Barack "subside the rich" Obama...
Of course, keeping the latinos or whoever is at the society s bottom
as responsible for the country s quasi bankruptcy is a convenient smoke screen..
Economist Kenneth Galbraith was right when he said that most people of his country have not the sentiment of injustice devellopped enough ...
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Steeplerot
Lifer
The point of foxnews and talk radio rhetoric is simple really. Its a corporate PR campaign to pit the working class against one another through peoples natural self preservation fear aspect to distract us to be at each others throats while they screw us.
Its simple but a very effective strategy that works well around the world throughout history.
The reality is that these folks dont reallt give a toss about welfare fraud, if they did then why the hell aren't these folks demanding the subsidies to exxon and stuff end who have record profits?
Its simple a lot of these older folks are in the stock market and blaming Latinos are so much more palatable to what really matters their bottom line.
Its simple but a very effective strategy that works well around the world throughout history.
The reality is that these folks dont reallt give a toss about welfare fraud, if they did then why the hell aren't these folks demanding the subsidies to exxon and stuff end who have record profits?
Its simple a lot of these older folks are in the stock market and blaming Latinos are so much more palatable to what really matters their bottom line.
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Hayabusa Rider
Admin Emeritus & Elite Member
And not a single word has penetrated that incredibly thick cranium. I'm starting to think you're a bot.
First
Lifer
Even if the figures are true (doubtful), they still put far more in than they take out in the form of spending and consumption, sales tax, cheap labor for businesses, et al. That's only the monetary aspect, says nothing of their positive cultural impact.
To say we don't have the money is a conservative canard; you would just rather spend it on what you deem important. If you've ever known an illegal they're generally as American as they come and their children are fully assimilated if born here. And fact is we have all the money in the world because we can print it and do so without incurring significant inflation. You're 100 years late to the modern economy.
To say we don't have the money is a conservative canard; you would just rather spend it on what you deem important. If you've ever known an illegal they're generally as American as they come and their children are fully assimilated if born here. And fact is we have all the money in the world because we can print it and do so without incurring significant inflation. You're 100 years late to the modern economy.
Illegal immigration is absolutely a fucking problem. It should not be allowed and we should do everything possible to stem the flow of people illegally entering and living in our country. If you disagree with this, then you're just some anarchist that doesn't believe in borders anyways or a douche bag who wants to take advantage of a mostly poor uneducated people.
Being against illegal immigration isn't being a bigot and it sure as fuck isn't being against immigration. Again only douche bags and/or bigotted assholes have a problem with immigration.
So, uhh, nobody found the actual study cited, right? Which leads me to wonder if it actually exists, and if the article in the OP has any validity at all.
It's absolutely stunning that people will jump right on any bandwagon that supports their own beliefs.
It's an honest question that deserves an answer before anybody accepts any of the conclusions in the article- Where's the Study?
It's absolutely stunning that people will jump right on any bandwagon that supports their own beliefs.
It's an honest question that deserves an answer before anybody accepts any of the conclusions in the article- Where's the Study?
Steeplerot
Lifer
I asked you to tell me the program people live off of their lives. You cannot respond to a social workers questions who SEE and witness their struggle negotiating the bueracracy daily. But you didnt even try except with anything but anecdotal evidence probably repeated. This is damn sad I really was hoping you would at least try instead of NUH UNH. You sound CAD defending bush.
Some people are disabled or have mental problems in section 8 and yet you all think your shit dissent stink as you drive past back to your white ghettos. Where the very same problems are. Conviently hidden under drapes of smugness and superiority of a group of decendants who pillaged the continent to have this entitled attitude. Stick it where the sun don't shine or show the facts or you don't have the right to divide Americans ans judge others plight.
Well you have the right but don't expect people around you to not think you are shallow assholes for being so transparent and hypocritical.
Some people are disabled or have mental problems in section 8 and yet you all think your shit dissent stink as you drive past back to your white ghettos. Where the very same problems are. Conviently hidden under drapes of smugness and superiority of a group of decendants who pillaged the continent to have this entitled attitude. Stick it where the sun don't shine or show the facts or you don't have the right to divide Americans ans judge others plight.
Well you have the right but don't expect people around you to not think you are shallow assholes for being so transparent and hypocritical.
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IndyColtsFan
Lifer
Ah, the story of your life.....
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