Most Illegal Immigrant Families Collect Welfare

[Fern]

Census Bureau data reveals that most U.S. families headed by illegal immigrants use taxpayer-funded welfare programs on behalf of their American-born anchor babies.

..immigrant households with children used welfare programs at consistently higher rates than natives...

States where immigrant households with children have the highest welfare use rates are Arizona (62%), Texas, California and New York with 61% each and Pennsylvania (59%).

The study focused on eight major welfare programs that cost the government $517 billion the year they were examined. They include Supplemental Security Income (SSI) for the disabled, Temporary Assistance to Needy Families (TANF), a nutritional program known as Women, Infants and Children (WIC), food stamps, free/reduced school lunch, public housing and health insurance for the poor (Medicaid).

The highest rate of welfare recipients come from the Dominican Republic (82 %), Mexico and Guatemala (75%) and Ecuador (70%), according to the report, which says welfare use tends to be high for both new arrivals and established residents.

Dang, this is insane. That's a lot of money we don't have, both at the federal and state levels.

And add to this the expense of public education for these children. At $10,000 to $25,000 per student (depending on who you want to believe) this is billions.

The article below provides a link to the full report.

http://www.themoralliberal.com/2011/04/05/most-illegal-immigrant-families-collect-welfare/

Fern

 

[Abwx]

And add to this the expense of public education for these children. At $10,000 to $25,000 per student (depending on who you want to believe) this is billions.

If they are to live and work in the US later, these education related expenses are called an investment...

 

[ShawnD1]

Reminds me of something one of my relatives said about immigrants: they're smarter than us. If there is a way to get free shit, they find it. Food stamps, income assistance, scholarships that only apply if you're the correct race, etc.

Conservatives and liberals should work together to spread the word about these programs so everyone who qualifies for it applies for it. That way the people these programs were designed for get assistance, and the budget explodes to show what the true cost of these programs is so they can be canceled

 

[Fern]

If they are to live and work in the US later, these education related expenses are called an investment...

Investment?

I'd call it exploding debt.

How about the Dominican Republic, Mexico, Guatemala and Ecuador etc do the "investing".

Over here, public schools are funded by real estate taxes. This is causing us a lot of problems.

Fern

 

[CanOWorms]

The first sentence in your quote says that it's on behalf of their American citizen children. That means they're not illegal immigrant families, but of a mixed status. How can an American be an illegal immigrant in the United States?

Why is it wrong for an American to utilize the resources the government made available to them?

 

[Infohawk]

Central American immigration is completely different than other immigration waves. You used to have to work your way up. Now you get cash and expensive public services for just being within the borders. It's lucky that illegals are allowed to keep their wages after breaking the law, and it's absolute absurdity that they're allowed to get any benefits (including public schooling) for nothing.

 

[cubby1223]

Relative of mine works a port of entry along the Mexico border, tells stories about Mexican citizens who live in Mexico, traveling up to the U.S. once every month to hit up a government office for unemployment benefits, then drive immediately back to their homes in Mexico. They get set up with a contact in the U.S. to employ them, purposely and immediately fire them, then the federal dollars kick in.

Federal spending to the slackers in society is unending. There is no incentive for them to be productive.

 

[Fern]

The first sentence in your quote says that it's on behalf of their American citizen children. That means they're not illegal immigrant families, but of a mixed status. How can an American be an illegal immigrant in the United States?

Why is it wrong for an American to utilize the resources the government made available to them?

Anchor babies. Decent illegal immigration preventative steps would stop that.

But if you read the article and look at the full report you'll find much is unrelated to anchor babies. Talks about states only having a 5 year waiting period before illegals become available for welfare etc.

Fern

 

[Steeplerot]

Totally misleading thread for knuckleheads anti Latino racist agenda.

What is it old white folks being such selfish lying asses? Luckily for the USA the days grow short for these pricks running anything but their electric fence in their gated ghettos.

This forum needs a major cleaning. Its like stormfront for racists as long as its Latinos who could possibly be after the white mans money. Its all good to lie and make misleading posts to cover their agenda. Shameful and divisive and a piss poor way to include people in what is supossed to be a techie forum for everyone.

 

[Fern]

What's running short is the money train.

Nothing misleading about the thread in the least. The illegal imigrant family had to come here first before any anchor baby was born.

Edit: Took a whole 9 posts before the first knucklehead showed up to throw out the "racist" charge.

Fern

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

NY. Figures. We're known as being the soft touch of the nation, that is unless you have a job and fall on hard times. If you never worked though we want you.

 

[SAWYER]

Yes only white folks do not like illegal crimmigrants...that dumbass statement alone is racist

 

[Steeplerot]

Yes only white folks do not like illegal crimmigrants...

Take a look at who supports the agenda. Old white folks everytime. Young people and everyone else as a whole reject and want nothing to do with this shame on the national discourse.

The young people and Latino techies fled this forum ages ago when this place became racist when right wingers jumped on the nativist train.

Latinos.sick of this shit should start writing Anand to take out the trash here. I know for a fact the site is dying for a number if reasons and its a damn shame.

 

[Abwx]

Investment?

I'd call it exploding debt.

How about the Dominican Republic, Mexico, Guatemala and Ecuador etc do the "investing".

Over here, public schools are funded by real estate taxes. This is causing us a lot of problems.

Fern

These immigrant s childs are tommorrow s US working class,
so it s better to devellop as much as possible their skills..

As for other countries providing the expenses, check , it s
already done..
Do you know how much high profile workers emigrate
to the US each year ?..

According to your mentality, the US gov. should pay
for the expenses they did cost in their former country..

Sheesh ??..

 

[Anarchist420]

I don't get why we don't cut off the welfare state.

 

[Steeplerot]

I don't get why we don't cut off the welfare state.

Because no society can function without a civil government. Are you that ate up in the head?

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

These immigrant s childs are tommorrow s US working class,
so it s better to devellop as much as possible their skills..

As for other countries providing the expenses, check , it s
already done..
Do you know how much high profile workers emigrate
to the US each year ?..

According to your mentality, the US gov. should pay
for the expenses they did cost in their former country..

Sheesh ??..

No, they are tomorrow's welfare generation, then their children and so on. That's how it works. Considering you really don't know anything about how things work here you can hardly tell us how things are.

 

[Steeplerot]

No, they are tomorrow's welfare generation, then their children and so on. That's how it works. Considering you really don't know anything about how things work here you can hardly tell us how things are.

You hardly are one to comment. How many Latino famlies do you live and work with? Help? Are your neighbors? And I don't mean Pedro at the corner store who bags your groceries you save hi to.

You know shit a bunch of old white rich dudes told you on tv with an agenda. People who live in glass houses....

 

[nobodyknows]

Totally misleading thread for knuckleheads anti Latino racist agenda.

What is it old white folks being such selfish lying asses? Luckily for the USA the days grow short for these pricks running anything but their electric fence in their gated ghettos.

LOL, your RACISM is well displayed. Perhaps they don't like living in shitholes?

This forum needs a major cleaning. Its like stormfront for racists as long as its Latinos who could possibly be after the white mans money. Its all good to lie and make misleading posts to cover their agenda. Shameful and divisive and a piss poor way to include people in what is supossed to be a techie forum for everyone.

If you want to engage it technology stay the hell out of P&N, seems like common sense to me??

It's not just Latino's who come here to drop anchor their babies. The whole world is tsking advantage of the stupid law and it's time to change it. No other country I'm aware of allows that so take your racist tripe about white people ans shove it up your ass.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

You hardly are one to comment. How many Latino famlies do you live and work with? Help? Are your neighbors? And I don't mean Pedro at the corner store who bags your groceries you save hi to.

You know shit a bunch of old white rich dudes told you on tv with an agenda. People who live in glass houses....

What's humorous is that you think you know me. Let me guess you were beat up by people when you were young. You are really ugly and people stare aghast at you. You weigh so much you can hardly stand. You smell really bad. That makes you so angry that anyone who might be better off than you are is someone you hate.

 

[Steeplerot]

Ah, so now it's the excuse other folks do it too. Yet somehow I never hear about our large community of Russiansfor example here. Nor do these white dominated corporate mews agencies ever focus on these elements. Its always some Latinos who get to be scapegoat for the countries ills. The ill country that is so screwed up by who? The same folks who are always looking for a scapegoat to blame everyone else for their own failures at running things.

 

[DucatiMonster696]

Take a look at who supports the agenda. Old white folks everytime. Young people and everyone else as a whole reject and want nothing to do with this shame on the national discourse.

The young people and Latino techies fled this forum ages ago when this place became racist when right wingers jumped on the nativist train.

Latinos.sick of this shit should start writing Anand to take out the trash here. I know for a fact the site is dying for a number if reasons and its a damn shame.

Hey jack ass you don't speak for all or any Latinos or young people.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Hey jack ass you don't speak for all or any Latinos or young people.

They probably pack his groceries

 

[Fern]

You hardly are one to comment. How many Latino famlies do you live and work with? Help? Are your neighbors? And I don't mean Pedro at the corner store who bags your groceries you save hi to.
-snip-

WTH does that have to do with anything?

No one is talking about the personal characteristics of illegal immigrants (e.g., they are lazy or dishonest or not 'nice', whatever).

The report being discussed is an objective factual account pertaining to costs etc. It's in no way perjorative or subjective. Facts are facts.

It's relevence is underscored by our national debt and that fact that concern about it is ranked very high.

IMO, we don't have money to give to noncitizens. The enormous costs cited should suggest some corrective actions to our policies to help get us out of our debt 'hole'.

Fern

 

[Steeplerot]

Hey jack ass you don't speak for all or any Latinos or young people.

Well racists in the corporate media are plenty represented. Someone needs to call the knuckleheads out.