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I would love to see you play a game with Unreal Engine 3.0, since so far a 6800 Ultra can run it at medium settings only at 15fps
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where does everyone get this "inside info" about how UE3 runs? do you have any links or proof?

and btw....quake 4 is using the D3 engine (kind of "duh"). how can it "barely look different than Doom 3" yet "Doom 3's graphics suck, but Quake 4's graphics are competitive for next gen."? that makes no sense at all

you saying doom 3's graphics suck obviously shows how closed minded you are; that and/or you are blind.

judging by the Q4 screenies, the graphics are very comparable to D3...looks like they just made the player models better (thank god...the monsters looked great, but the NPCs looked pretty bad).
 
LOL, funny post.

When the 6800 Ultra was released the developers of the Unreal Engine 3.0 released a video where it said so. Can't find it right now because I need to go to sleep.

With the Quake 4 thing. Just look at the answers to the polls. I know the graphics of Doom 3 rock, but the poll observation just doesn't make any sense at all just as you said.

 
Originally posted by: VIAN
LOL, funny post.

When the 6800 Ultra was released the developers of the Unreal Engine 3.0 released a video where it said so. Can't find it right now because I need to go to sleep.

With the Quake 4 thing. Just look at the answers to the polls. I know the graphics of Doom 3 rock, but the poll observation just doesn't make any sense at all just as you said.
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what are you trying to say? why would you try to convince me they suck based on a poll? and btw, its in 3rd place...out of 17 brand new great looking games...yeah those gfx must suck alot eh? :roll:

and i have the video you mentioned; it said nothing about what the test system was. we must be talking about the same one because there is only one UE3 video on the net that i've ever heard of.
 
I don't get why so many people here are arguing about realism. This isn't about realism, but how beautiful the world is.
The game could contain the most realistic graphics of your house, but it wouldn't be beautiful.
Here's some examples of beautiful
Morrowind
Farcry
 
Synonyms: graphic, lifelike, realistic, vivid
These adjectives mean strikingly sharp and accurate
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source: dictionary.com

doom 3 is diffenately beautiful in its own way. the engine totally engrosses you into the game, which is what it's meant to do. it does a much better job of it then HL2 and FarCry IMO. it uses the perfect mix of sound and visuals to scare the sh!t out of you (if you let it...if you just sit back and flame it then you arent really "getting into the game")
 
what are you trying to say? why would you try to convince me they suck based on a poll? and btw, its in 3rd place...out of 17 brand new great looking games...yeah those gfx must suck alot eh?
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I'm trying to say that I think people are associating bad gameplay with graphics being that so many people think that HL2 has better graphics than Doom3. So that means that HL2 has better graphics than all next gen games since, Quake 4 has almost the exact same graphics as Doom 3. I bet if I put HL2 in the Unreleased, it would kill all other games, being that HL2 has such better graphics.

This is a conclusion based on what I see on the polls. I certainly don't believe it, I just think it's some kind of human error, because the results are oxymoron. I not trying to convince anyone.
 
Originally posted by: VIAN
what are you trying to say? why would you try to convince me they suck based on a poll? and btw, its in 3rd place...out of 17 brand new great looking games...yeah those gfx must suck alot eh?
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I'm trying to say that I think people are associating bad gameplay with graphics being that so many people think that HL2 has better graphics than Doom3. So that means that HL2 has better graphics than all next gen games since, Quake 4 has almost the exact same graphics as Doom 3. I bet if I put HL2 in the Unreleased, it would kill all other games, being that HL2 has such better graphics.

This is a conclusion based on what I see on the polls. I certainly don't believe it, I just think it's some kind of human error, because the results are oxymoron. I not trying to convince anyone.
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Sure you are . . . . keep trying. . . . . 'cause you are correct.

i think a few may recognize me as a 'doom iii-'hater' . . . .
:roll:

. . . . but that extends only to the GAME itself - NOT the game's ENGINE!!!

(!)

the engine is a technologically advanced "wonder" of lighting and shadows that runs very well on current and future HW (and that is partly why i am so irritated at the 'game').

True, some of the character models may be a bit 'weak' but even that does not detract from the engine. I expect r520/nv50 will be challenged by Doom iii's engine as it gets "tweaked" further . . . . look at Quake III and then compare it to McGee's 'Alice' and Star Trek Voyager: Elite Forces II. 😉

HL2's Source engine is very "capable" and the game is eXcellent BUT does NOT compare to Doom iii's.

imo Doom iii's engine tops the list . . . .
(with the game at the bottom)

followed by:

Crytek (FC),

Starbreeze (Chronicles of Riddick)

Havok (PK/BOoH)

Source (HL2)

Unreal Warfare II (Thief - DS/DE:IW)




EDIT: in some ways the poll is correct . . . Far Cry is "beautiful" with its rendering of tropical foilage and water effects. . . . . OTOH, Diii's is a view of "hell" and rather gory . . . . and kinda hard to call "beautiful" - except from a technological standpoint. 😉
:roll:


😀
 
Great post apoppin :thumbsup: I was expecting your usual D3 diatribe, but you laid the smackdown on my preconceived notion.
 
I'm trying to say that I think people are associating bad gameplay with graphics being that so many people think that HL2 has better graphics than Doom3. So that means that HL2 has better graphics than all next gen games since, Quake 4 has almost the exact same graphics as Doom 3. I bet if I put HL2 in the Unreleased, it would kill all other games, being that HL2 has such better graphics.
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I love both D3 and HL2's graphics. But HL2 beats D3 in terms of realism and that general "omfg gorgeous" factor. Have you ever seen the clouds in HL2? The water is extreme. And I would still think so if the gameplay sucks, which is luckily don't. Personally though, I think D3's gameplay sucks ass while the lighting effects are top notch.

HL2 = Extremely detailed textures makes it the most realistic looking to this date. Lighting isn't bad either. Definetily the best of the two.
D3 = Extreme lighting/shadow effects but drain unnecessary amounts of resources (compared to the "omfg gorgeous" factor you get in return) and the models look like plastic.

Know nothing about Far Cry, since I've only played the demo on the system in my sig. But also beautiful.


edit: fixed the quote. BB-code misspelled.
 
Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
Great post apoppin :thumbsup: I was expecting your usual D3 diatribe, but you laid the smackdown on my preconceived notion.
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Thank-you . . . . well, it's more of a let me clearly state for the record. 😉

To repeat . . . Doom III has an AWESOME game ENGINE . . . . imo, its potential has barely been tapped . . . . and yes, it is more advanced than the other game engines (especially shadows and lighting - although the game, Doom iii, does NOT showcase it ALL - partly because of the limitations of the game itself (including cramped/dark) and partly because of HW limitations.

Anyway, that said - the OTHER game engines i listed are also very very capable and can make your gaming experience very immersive . . . . plus they all look capable of more detail and better realism as our HW matures.



 
To repeat . . . Doom III has an AWESOME game ENGINE . . . . imo, its potential has barely been tapped . . . . and yes, it is more advanced than the other game engines (especially shadows and lighting - although the game, Doom iii, does NOT showcase it ALL - partly because of the limitations of the game itself (including cramped/dark) and partly because of HW limitations.
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I just love how D3 fans "know" it has a far better engine than other games out there... it's just that it 'wasn't used well'. Right. It's got a nice realtime lighting system, but seems like a bit of a one trick pony to me. Maybe future games will prove me wrong. But so far I'm more impressed with what has been done with the Source engine than with any other one out there... and, to me, that's the real test.
 
Originally posted by: Matthias99
To repeat . . . Doom III has an AWESOME game ENGINE . . . . imo, its potential has barely been tapped . . . . and yes, it is more advanced than the other game engines (especially shadows and lighting - although the game, Doom iii, does NOT showcase it ALL - partly because of the limitations of the game itself (including cramped/dark) and partly because of HW limitations.
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I just love how D3 fans "know" it has a far better engine than other games out there... it's just that it 'wasn't used well'. Right. It's got a nice realtime lighting system, but seems like a bit of a one trick pony to me. Maybe future games will prove me wrong. But so far I'm more impressed with what has been done with the Source engine than with any other one out there... and, to me, that's the real test.
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Yes, but the Source engine is relatively "old" and has already been tricked out pretty far. . . . . not much left to squeeze out of it compared with the untapped potential that is Doom iii's. 😉

I am NOT a Doom III fan - i HATE this POS of a game - but it's ENGINE is better (period)

and future games WILL prove you wrong . . . wait and see 😉
 
Yes, but the Source engine is relatively "old" and has already been tricked out pretty far. . . . . not much left to squeeze out of it compared with the untapped potential that is Doom iii's.
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I know you put a 'wink' after that, but with your insane usage of quotation "marks" and smilies, I just can't tell if you're serious or not.

I am NOT a Doom III fan - i HATE this POS of a game - but it's ENGINE is better (period)
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Based on... your opinion? I haven't seen anything that would indicate that Doom3's engine is notably better than any other one out there except in terms of its dynamic shadowing (which *does* look nice, but not THAT much nicer than FarCry or HL2, and results in a very heavy GPU load, as can be seen by Doom3's performance). I'm just not seeing what is making it SO much better than everything else.

and future games WILL prove you wrong . . . wait and see
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I hope they do (and I hope they're better games than D3). But I'm not gonna hold my breath.
 
Originally posted by: Matthias99
Yes, but the Source engine is relatively "old" and has already been tricked out pretty far. . . . . not much left to squeeze out of it compared with the untapped potential that is Doom iii's.
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I know you put a 'wink' after that, but with your insane usage of quotation "marks" and smilies, I just can't tell if you're serious or not.

I am NOT a Doom III fan - i HATE this POS of a game - but it's ENGINE is better (period)
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Based on... your opinion? I haven't seen anything that would indicate that Doom3's engine is notably better than any other one out there except in terms of its dynamic shadowing (which *does* look nice, but not THAT much nicer than FarCry or HL2, and results in a very heavy GPU load, as can be seen by Doom3's performance). I'm just not seeing what is making it SO much better than everything else.

and future games WILL prove you wrong . . . wait and see
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I hope they do (and I hope they're better games than D3). But I'm not gonna hold my breath.
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i'm serious about Source . . . it's older and less advanced than the others (Diii/Crytek/Starbreeze) . . . . but still excellent for today's games (kinda where the Unreal II engine is although i like Source better).

What make Diii's engine 'better' is technical and has been addressed in a few threads . . . . my opinion is based on what i read and see

jeeze, just about "anything" is better than the game - Doom iii . . . . i guess Quake IV isn't too far off and we should see other games powered by Diii's engine by the end of the year . . . patience.

If i am wrong, i expect you will bring it up in a future thread. 😛
:roll:
and i expect to remind you if when i am proved right
:shocked:

😀

 
i'm serious about Source . . . it's older and less advanced than the others (Diii/Crytek/Starbreeze) . . . . but still excellent for today's games (kinda where the Unreal II engine is although i like Source better).
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I fail to see how an engine technically released *after* Doom3's is "older"; perhaps you are referring to it being less advanced in some technical sense? Doom3's rendering style (with its heavy focus on dynamic shadowing and use of standardized pixel shaders for all lighting) is *different*, but not necessarily better for all applications, and it's not really a "new" idea (ie, the concept was not invented for Doom3, although this is probably the first game that's used something like this in real time).

I would put it this way: HL2's engine is, at a low level, more similar to previously released 3D game engines than Doom3's is. This does NOT automatically make Doom3's engine "better", or make HL2 "less advanced".

What make Diii's engine 'better' is technical and has been addressed in a few threads . . . . my opinion is based on what i read and see
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Oh, I see -- it's "technical". I guess I wouldn't understand it with "just" a bachelor's degree and years of real-world software engineering experience. :disgust:

Try me.
 
Still almost 4x as many people love the HL2 graphics as opposed to the Doom 3.

Yet, and this is totally beyond me, that same Doom 3 graphics looks just as nice as Age Of Empires 3.

(Now obviously Quake 4 will look better than Doom 3. But it doesn't seem to by much of anything according to those pictures. Probably just some tweaks.)

So basically what that says is that 4x as many people like HL2 graphics as opposed to Age of Empires 3. And that's just stupid.
 
By the few screenshots I've seen of the Q4-engine, it looks even more like plastic than D3. I don't like that. I'd rather have HL2-like graphic.. sharper corners and objects, but detailed textures.
 
I dont like Doom3s graphics. Sure the lighting looks fantasmic, But the models=Poo, Th textures=Plastic, and it dont have much going for it.

I like Half Life 2 because it looks real.

Then again, the Unreal Engine 4 tops them all. (*IMO)
 
For now, Half-Life 2 wins, hands down. Besides, Source updates will be being realeased, so it can "keep up-to-date". Now, when I see a decent game made with the D3 engine (ala Quake 4), I will be impressed.
 

I'm on a 56k modem so I haven't downloaded the Unreal 3 trailer, but after checking out this screenshot:

http://games.softpedia.com/progScreensh...-Engine-E-Trailer-Screenshot-2908.html

I can't say I'm all that impressed. Now maybe this is just a bad screenshot and the trailer looks a hellava lot better - I'm assuming this is the case. But even so, that is one not very impressive screenshot ...

I hope nobody out there is taking the "which is the best engine?" thing personally. The ONLY reason to have any personal investement in such an argument is if you actually WORKED on one of the engines in question. Otherwise it's like people raving about which pro football team is better and taking it personally when they don't actually have anything to do with the teams... oh wait, people already do that.

By the way - Half-Life 2 is by far the best looking game, so the poll, in that respect at least, is quite correct. HL2 graphics do appear oddly weak in certain areas though - like that train ride in the begining - that is one of the least detailed train interiors I've ever seen ... It reminds me of the subway at the start of Blood II, which was REALLY weak ... But HL2 more than makes up for it in other areas/maps. Most realistic graphics I've yet seen.
 
Originally posted by: Mister Dark

I'm on a 56k modem so I haven't downloaded the Unreal 3 trailer, but after checking out this screenshot:

http://games.softpedia.com/progScreensh...-Engine-E-Trailer-Screenshot-2908.html

I can't say I'm all that impressed. Now maybe this is just a bad screenshot and the trailer looks a hellava lot better - I'm assuming this is the case. But even so, that is one not very impressive screenshot ...

I hope nobody out there is taking the "which is the best engine?" thing personally. The ONLY reason to have any personal investement in such an argument is if you actually WORKED on one of the engines in question. Otherwise it's like people raving about which pro football team is better and taking it personally when they don't actually have anything to do with the teams... oh wait, people already do that.

By the way - Half-Life 2 is by far the best looking game, so the poll, in that respect at least, is quite correct. HL2 graphics do appear oddly weak in certain areas though - like that train ride in the begining - that is one of the least detailed train interiors I've ever seen ... It reminds me of the subway at the start of Blood II, which was REALLY weak ... But HL2 more than makes up for it in other areas/maps. Most realistic graphics I've yet seen.
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YOU ARE A FREAKIN MORON. Those are UNREAL TOURNAMENT screenshots, not UNREAL ENGINE screenshots.
 
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