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VRAMdemon

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Nah. it couldn't be conservatives.

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It looks like the cute little hand gesture "ok" sign originally invented by the alt right as a joke to "troll the liberals" is now synonymous with a white supremacist terrorist mass murderer. sorta sucks for them...

The narrative seems to be the false flag Limbaugh one where this guy is an actual "leftist" who commited this act to smear the good people of the alt right. This guy killed 50 or so people so he could "troll the liberals"?. It’s now a distinction without a difference. Smooth move Ex Lax...
 

ivwshane

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But guys! If only the jews were nicer to nazis's, they wouldn't have been murdered by the millions!

We must treat the right with respect and deserve none in return, after all, like Charlie brown and Lucy and the football, eventually they'll come around and stop their hate and violence.


-says a moron smart enough to see through the rights failed economic policies and yet still so ignorant that he falls for all of their other tactics.
 

ivwshane

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It looks like the cute little hand gesture "ok" sign originally invented by the alt right as a joke to "troll the liberals" is now synonymous with a white supremacist terrorist mass murderer. sorta sucks for them...

The narrative seems to be the false flag Limbaugh one where this guy is an actual "leftist" who commited this act to smear the good people of the alt right. This guy killed 50 or so people so he could "troll the liberals"?. It’s now a distinction without a difference. Smooth move Ex Lax...

What? You didn't know that the best trolls go all out and murder people? That's just basic trolling 101.
 

Luna1968

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But guys! If only the jews were nicer to nazis's, they wouldn't have been murdered by the millions!

We must treat the right with respect and deserve none in return, after all, like Charlie brown and Lucy and the football, eventually they'll come around and stop their hate and violence.


-says a moron smart enough to see through the rights failed economic policies and yet still so ignorant that he falls for all of their other tactics.

Do you care of the thousands of christians being murdered by islam?
 

Jaskalas

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I view the subject as a matter of pushing people away, or reaching out to get them to join you.
I see a person telling me America is dead, and I see that they intend to push people away instead of building a better future.
But guys! If only the jews were nicer to nazis's, they wouldn't have been murdered by the millions!

We must treat the right with respect and deserve none in return, after all, like Charlie brown and Lucy and the football, eventually they'll come around and stop their hate and violence.


-says a moron smart enough to see through the rights failed economic policies and yet still so ignorant that he falls for all of their other tactics.

And you, a guy who wants to push people over the ledge. To declare yourself an enemy of all who do not already share your view of right and wrong. Who cares right? They're all guilty in your book? They're all the same? Let me tell you something you obviously do not believe. Not all Muslims are terrorists. Not every white American is a Nazi. Nor every Independent or Republican either.

But you clearly want to treat them that way. What, with your indignation over me saying that we remain a civil society that strives to improve itself. You protest that I must be out of my mind. How dare I want a better future for America. How dare I want to speak of one? How dare I want to strive for that purpose? How dare I reach out and invite our fellow Americans towards peace and prosperity?! No, you think my time would be better spent frothing at the mouth and telling other people how much I hate them.

When you saw "!@#$ your feelings" on a shirt, you must of taken that as a personal challenge. To adopt the language and the methods of your enemy. How far along is your arsenal and your manifesto then, if you think being a raging moron is how this should go down.

No ivwshane, fuck you!
P.S., that's how you want it to work, right?
 
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ivwshane

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Do you care of the thousands of christians being murdered by islam?

So in your world all Muslims are bad because of a few bad groups. Does that also mean in your world a few bad Christians means all Christians are bad? Or are you capable of basic human characteristics such as empathy and sympathy and are capable of being concerned with any loss of life for those that are innocent of such hatred you seem so concerned over?

Maybe you aren't from the US so you'll have to excuse our ignorance to events outside of our country but the only murders of Christians, recently, that I can think of was a white guy shooting up a black church. Did you post your concerns when those threads were made?
 

ivwshane

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And you, a guy who wants to push people over the ledge. To declare yourself an enemy of all who do not already share your view of right and wrong. Who cares right? They're all guilty in your book? They're all the same? Let me tell you something you obviously do not believe. Not all Muslims are terrorists. Not every white American is a Nazi. Nor every Independent or Republican either.

But you clearly want to treat them that way. What, with your indignation over me saying that we remain a civil society that strives to improve itself. You protest that I must be out of my mind. How dare I want a better future for America. How dare I want to speak of one? How dare I want to strive for that purpose? How dare I reach out and invite our fellow Americans towards peace and prosperity?! No, you think my time would be better spent frothing at the mouth and telling other people how much I hate them.

When you saw "!@#$ your feelings" on a shirt, you must of taken that as a personal challenge. To adopt the language and the methods of your enemy. How far along is your arsenal and your manifesto then, if you think being a raging moron is how this should go down.

No ivwshane, fuck you!
P.S., that's how you want it to work, right?

Lol, no, that's HOW IT DOES WORK. You live in fantasy land and you are trying to get others to join you. Noble? Sure but it's not based in reality. I'm sorry I'm the one that has to inform you of this.
 
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Hayabusa Rider

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The world was going crazy before Trump. Trump is far more of a symptom than a cause here.

Racism existed before Trump, and will be here after.
Nationalism existed before Trump, and will be here after.
Right-wing extremists existed before Trump, and will be here after.

Trump did not develop his ideology in isolation.

Well I could say the same about Hitler but while his hate wasn't new he put it out there for everyone to sign on. Evil existed, but having someone promote it isn't a good thing.
 

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And you, a guy who wants to push people over the ledge. To declare yourself an enemy of all who do not already share your view of right and wrong. Who cares right? They're all guilty in your book? They're all the same? Let me tell you something you obviously do not believe. Not all Muslims are terrorists. Not every white American is a Nazi. Nor every Independent or Republican either.

But you clearly want to treat them that way. What, with your indignation over me saying that we remain a civil society that strives to improve itself. You protest that I must be out of my mind. How dare I want a better future for America. How dare I want to speak of one? How dare I want to strive for that purpose? How dare I reach out and invite our fellow Americans towards peace and prosperity?! No, you think my time would be better spent frothing at the mouth and telling other people how much I hate them.

When you saw "!@#$ your feelings" on a shirt, you must of taken that as a personal challenge. To adopt the language and the methods of your enemy. How far along is your arsenal and your manifesto then, if you think being a raging moron is how this should go down.

No ivwshane, fuck you!
P.S., that's how you want it to work, right?

Don't conflate religion with political identity, only one of these things is a protected class. When you identify as a Republican then you are participating in and supporting a system that kills people when you could simply not identify as a Republican and not do that.

Civility is not always useless, we are however talking about a right wing mass murder, anyone who is upset with the outcry of anger towards the right, who's fault this is, is therefore on the side of the mass murderer.

Do you see why you can fuck off now?
 

realibrad

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Well I could say the same about Hitler but while his hate wasn't new he put it out there for everyone to sign on. Evil existed, but having someone promote it isn't a good thing.

Well, let's go with that. Let's say that Hitler died before they invaded Russia. Would that have been the end of Nazis Germany? Clearly no.

Now, obviously Hitler was a key part of the rise of the Nazis. It's even possible that without him they would not have come to power. Removing him at any point would have likely weakened them.

So, removing Trump is a step in the right direction. What I'm saying is that there are larger underlying problems that need to be addressed. What I see are people arguing as if this is mostly caused by Trump, which worries me. I don't want People to think that after he is gone that the goal has been reached.