Originally posted by: Nik
You can come sleep at my house, if it's easier for you
what a los.., i mean gentleman.
what a los.., i mean gentleman.
Originally posted by: McGyver
Originally posted by: Nik
You can come sleep at my house, if it's easier for you
what a los.., i mean gentleman.
NOTICE THE EMOTICON.
I saw the movie Lawnmower Man. Does that count?
Seriously though, if Tithing is a commandment of god it seems to me very plausable that the church could have kicked him out. After all, he did disobey god himself.
Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: McGyver
Originally posted by: Nik
You can come sleep at my house, if it's easier for you
what a los.., i mean gentleman.
NOTICE THE EMOTICON.
i did notice the loser tho, post count 55k.
Originally posted by: McGyver
Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: McGyver
Originally posted by: Nik
You can come sleep at my house, if it's easier for you
what a los.., i mean gentleman.
NOTICE THE EMOTICON.
i did notice the loser tho, post count 55k.
uh, 52,572 != 55,000
Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: McGyver
Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: McGyver
Originally posted by: Nik
You can come sleep at my house, if it's easier for you
what a los.., i mean gentleman.
NOTICE THE EMOTICON.
i did notice the loser tho, post count 55k.
uh, 52,572 != 55,000
uh-oh, online self-conscious syndrome, i wasn't even talkin about u. lol
take it easy, buddy. if u want to be a tough guy, online forum should be the last place to act like one. btw, where's ur brokeback buddy, the guy from indiana or is that really u urself?
Considering that you and I were quoting each other for several posts and I'm the only one with near 55k posts, who else would you be talking to?
BoomerD
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I've got pretty mixed feelings about the Morons...I mean Mormons...I lived in Utah for about 3 yrs, and knew some very good Mormon people...Folks who had strong beliefs in their religion and lived it...Then, there were the "jacks"...sinners just like the rest of us...Being a "Christian" in the land of Moroni was eye-opening. You are treated differently, like a 2nd class citizen, you are routinely discriminated against, in housing, in employment, and in retail establishments...It's done subtly, so as not to give you enough to sue for, but you know it's there, and you feel it in lots of places.
Our church used to "educate " us on the Mormons, and even had several "ex-Mormon" speakers from prominent mormon families come in...I learned a lot that the church has gone to great lengths to cover up, like the Mountain Meadows Massacre, John Lee & the Danites, and many other unsavory things that Joseph & Brigham and their followers did back in the day...I remember how no person of african heritage could hold a priesthood in the church, not even as a troop leader in the boy scouts...till magically, God spoke to the Head Mormon (at the time...early 70's?) and told him that they had cleansed their sins, and were now OK for those kinds of offices, or so the story is told...Co-incidentally, there was a major civil rights suit going at the time, that they were about to lose. They opened all positions to any qualifying member, without regard to race or national origin.
The original Mormon pioneers were vehemously "anti-christian", and even in some of Joseph's and/or Brighams writings, they rave about how "Those Christians" in one context or another.
Nope, in my eye, Mormons are akin to devil worshipers/cultists, not Christians. but maybe that's not too bad, because MANY christians aren't very christ-like either...
Opps, forgot a couple of links:
http://www.carm.org/lds/quote_by.htm
http://www.carm.org/lds/quotes_js.htm
http://www.xmission.com/~country/reason/lee_pref.htm
Our church used to "educate " us on the Mormons, and even had several "ex-Mormon" speakers from prominent mormon families come in...I learned a lot that the church has gone to great lengths to cover up, like the Mountain Meadows Massacre, John Lee & the Danites, and many other unsavory things that Joseph & Brigham and their followers did back in the day...I remember how no person of african heritage could hold a priesthood in the church, not even as a troop leader in the boy scouts...till magically, God spoke to the Head Mormon (at the time...early 70's?) and told him that they had cleansed their sins, and were now OK for those kinds of offices, or so the story is told...Co-incidentally, there was a major civil rights suit going at the time, that they were about to lose. They opened all positions to any qualifying member, without regard to race or national origin.
The original Mormon pioneers were vehemously "anti-christian", and even in some of Joseph's and/or Brighams writings, they rave about how "Those Christians" in one context or another.
Nope, in my eye, Mormons are akin to devil worshipers/cultists, not Christians. but maybe that's not too bad, because MANY christians aren't very christ-like either...
Opps, forgot a couple of links:
http://www.carm.org/lds/quote_by.htm
http://www.carm.org/lds/quotes_js.htm
http://www.xmission.com/~country/reason/lee_pref.htm
Research how it was originally created and you will find out how creditable it is. Nothing wrong with their beliefs, I dont care what anyone believes, but it seems like a religion that some dude just decided he would make and somehow got a following.
^
Worst post in this thread. I'm not even sure how to react to that statement...maybe you should read the Da Vinci Code or something.
I don't understand why people pick on the Mormons. I can think of another church who has perverted the truth for centuries yet nobody seems to care about that. I'm tired of people spreading FUD, misinformation, and flat-out lies. Unfortunately, that's exactly how the adversary works. I'm going to bed.
Or maybe you guys just set yourselves up for taking a beating by ... you know ... being cultists?
BoomerD
No Lifer
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Y'know Nik, it's obvious that mormonism is a Male created thing...or at least WAS in the early days...(and/or as practiced in the polygamist towns)
You can have as many wives as you want. You don't have to support them, put them on welfare if you can't...just adds to the household income...
You can party all night long, because church doesn't start till afternoon!
Wanna go to heaven, but don't want to give up that sinner lifestyle? Baptisms for the dead will cleanse you after you die...and in many cases, after you're long buried! Heck, they even have been known to baptise dead Holocaust victims and many others of different religions!
Yep, the Church of LSD...because you GOTTA be high to believe some of that sh!t!!
You can have as many wives as you want. You don't have to support them, put them on welfare if you can't...just adds to the household income...
You can party all night long, because church doesn't start till afternoon!
Wanna go to heaven, but don't want to give up that sinner lifestyle? Baptisms for the dead will cleanse you after you die...and in many cases, after you're long buried! Heck, they even have been known to baptise dead Holocaust victims and many others of different religions!
Yep, the Church of LSD...because you GOTTA be high to believe some of that sh!t!!
Actually, the whole multi-wives thing is a common misconception. It started with the "great migrations" from the east to the west during the early days of western expansion in the US. The Mormon church didn't allow their women to migrate west without being married so many ended up in polygamous "relationships" temporarily so they could move west primarily to Utah where their marriages were annulled.
The sheer amount of hear-say being thrown around in this thread is laughable.
BoomerD, I really hope, for your sake, that you are not as ignorant in life as your posts show you to be on AT.
I've learned that Nik enjoys a good argument, and discussions on Mormons tend to perk his interest (he's in all the Mormon threads). He knows enough about the topic to keep him coming back to the thread, but unfortunately he'll fill in all the gaps in his information with his trademark insults destroying his credibility.
BlancoNino, you sound like a good person. At least, you have good desires to better yourself. However, I suggest you avoid challenging people to argue with you about spiritual matters on an internet message board. This thread (and the countless many before it) can attest that it is indeed futile (I've wanted to use 'futile' in a sentence for a long while now)
And finally, in hopes to give a little insight on how members of the LDS church view the relationship of the carnel(natural) man and sin from an earlier discussion, a scripture from the BoM.
(Mosiah 3:19)For the natural man is an enemy to God, and has been from the fall of Adam, and will be, forever and ever, unless he yields to the enticings of the Holy Spirit, and putteth off the natural man and becometh a saint through the atonement of Christ the Lord, and becometh as a child, submissive, meek, humble, patient, full of love, willing to submit to all things which the Lord seeth fit to inflict upon him, even as a child doth submit to his father.
BoomerD, I really hope, for your sake, that you are not as ignorant in life as your posts show you to be on AT.
I've learned that Nik enjoys a good argument, and discussions on Mormons tend to perk his interest (he's in all the Mormon threads
). He knows enough about the topic to keep him coming back to the thread, but unfortunately he'll fill in all the gaps in his information with his trademark insults destroying his credibility. BlancoNino, you sound like a good person. At least, you have good desires to better yourself. However, I suggest you avoid challenging people to argue with you about spiritual matters on an internet message board. This thread (and the countless many before it) can attest that it is indeed futile (I've wanted to use 'futile' in a sentence for a long while now
)And finally, in hopes to give a little insight on how members of the LDS church view the relationship of the carnel(natural) man and sin from an earlier discussion, a scripture from the BoM.
(Mosiah 3:19)For the natural man is an enemy to God, and has been from the fall of Adam, and will be, forever and ever, unless he yields to the enticings of the Holy Spirit, and putteth off the natural man and becometh a saint through the atonement of Christ the Lord, and becometh as a child, submissive, meek, humble, patient, full of love, willing to submit to all things which the Lord seeth fit to inflict upon him, even as a child doth submit to his father.
Now the BS in this thread is out of control. I will make another comment though.
Can a corrupt tree (the catholic church, in your opinion) produce good fruit (the bible)?
And yet you believe believe that God can use a bunch of "fvck ups" to create your precious Bible? You are blinded by your faith if you believe the catholics are so messed up yet you believe in what they deem as holy.
Can a corrupt tree (the catholic church, in your opinion) produce good fruit (the bible)?
Good quotes. I love Brigham Young and Joseph Smith. Those men were studs.
Just so you know, the Priesthood was not only prohibited from African American, but from all people not of Hebrew decent. Kind of the same thing that was in the Bible, except it was opened to more than just the tribe of Levi. Oh well, what are you going to do.
My apologies if you were discriminated against as a result of not being LDS in an LDS community. Such actions should never have happened, and on behalf of the church, I'd like to apologize.
It's sad that you feel the way you do about our church. I wish that was different.
I'm sorry, but the Catholic church didn't produce the Bible. The Bible's writings concluded well before the Catholic church even formed. Just because they put the writings together doesn't make them the authors, nor does it give them reason to take credit for it.
The Bible was produced by God, not by the Catholic church.
However, I agree, the comment about the Catholic church was uncalled for. The Catholic church has done a lot of good things for mankind. They've made some mistakes too, but they've tried.
That is 100% false. The priesthood was denied to anyone who had even one drop of negro blood from their ancestors (pretty much the exact quote the church used). Everyone else could receive it.
Edit for clarification.
No, you are 100% false. Everyone else could not receive it, thank you very much. I had many friend of Hispanic decent who did not have the priesthood prior to that time, so please do not try to lecture me on thing you don't know enough about. Many of my friend did not have the priesthood prior to that time, so you are welcome to think what you will, but the facts are exactly as I have stated them.
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