PJABBER: It is not necessary to stay in the state of self-hate, you know.
M: I mentioned, did I not, that you don't know you hate yourself and therefore you don't understand self hate? To say that it is not necessary to stay somewhere is to imply volition and consciousness, that you know where you are and can go to a different place you also are aware of. None of this is factual when it comes to self hate. There is only one state folk are in regarding self hate and it's the state of denial. You don't choose to stay where you don't even know you are and because you are in denial for unconscious reasons, you can't choose to know those reasons.
PJ: Which is why I have an optimistic view of humanity, even as so many struggle both toward and away from varying degrees of enlightenment, ever rushing pell-mell at so many dead ends.
M: You can be anything you imagine when telling yourself a story, but it changed nothing on an unconscious level. You hate yourself and if you were to feel it you would see your optimism is a sham. You should be optimistic, but you can't be. You feel like the worst person in the world. You are like a gas bag with a rotten core. You make a diving trip out of a pair of cement shoes. You do not know what you feel but you think you do. Your glass is full and nothing I can say will add to your understanding. You already imagine you know. You call it self actualization when all you self actualize is your ego. You are self satisfied and have no need.
PJ: I even have hope for Palestinians, ever the victims of their own making.
M: And nothing you have can change that because you are the same.
PJ: There is a state and a process which some in psychology have referred to as self-actualization. It is comes about in the most curious ways. :awe
M: I don't give a damn about psychology. People learn about psychology to become better at being sick. All knowledge is to be had by feeling what you feel. The downtrodden and beaten have a better chance of that then the so called wise men.
Folk say they are optimistic but become defensive when I come along and tell them they feel hopeless. They get mad or they want to argue. Hehe, they aren't very optimistic them. They are pessimists who think I am here to take their joy away. I only want to bring them joy by notifying them they are miserable and sick, but that they don't know that they are and if they did they might have a shot at getting better, like in knowing you have a problem before you can work on it. Hehe, the greatest news in the universe, for the optimist, is the greatest catastrophe. To get well you have to die to being an optimist who is ignorant of his true inner condition.