More protests getting out of hand in Berkeley

[WelshBloke]

No, the altright is different from traditional Neo-Nazis. They do borrow some of the ideas of Neo-Nazis, clean them up, correct the grammar, use complete sentences, etc. This probably is why the Left so viscerally hates them, because a lot of them are eloquent and cannot easily be dismissed as most prior neo-Nazis could quickly be dismissed.

 

[jackstar7]

It is incredibly sad that the alt left keeps shutting down free speech.

Now, change that opening to extremists and zealots on both ends of the political spectrum and you'll start to approach reality, rather than playing your sad team sports.

Alt-left... come on with this shit.

 

[desura]

No, not the same as traditional neo-Nazis. Just do a google image search to see the difference. Traditional neonazis look like methhead trailer trash.

And red shirt kid in the background got hit in the head by a bike lock wielding professor.

 

[Blue_Max]

Yeah, there were a small handful of people REALLY ready to fight back against the Progressive bullsh!t. Even then, they still didn't use knives, explosives or smoke bombs.
Dozens to hundreds more on your side looked just like these guys... minus the muscle to back it up. I guess that's why you needed these:

 

[Vic]

No, the altright is different from traditional Neo-Nazis. They do borrow some of the ideas of Neo-Nazis, clean them up, correct the grammar, use complete sentences, etc. This probably is why the Left so viscerally hates them, because a lot of them are eloquent and cannot easily be dismissed as most prior neo-Nazis could quickly be dismissed.

And here I thought the 'hate' was because the alt-right ideology is inherently violent and also contrary to the American ideal that 'all men are created equal.'
It's really disingenuous when someone claims that it's just a disagreement of words, and that they're being oppressed, when the 'disagreement' is over what they want the government to do and their party is in control of the government. Even more so when what they want the government to do is un-American and, in many cases, illegal.

 

[jackstar7]

Yeah, there were a small handful of people REALLY ready to fight back against the Progressive bullsh!t. Even then, they still didn't use knives, explosives or smoke bombs.
Dozens to hundreds more on your side looked just like these guys... minus the muscle to back it up. I guess that's why you needed these:

Heh. I forget sometimes your MRA bullshit is rattling around in there, too.

Fun how you always find a way to let it out in everything you post.

Hey, while we're at it, can you back up your vague "dozens to hundreds"? That's really lacking for any kind of substance or credibility.

Sure does sound like you are scared shitless though.

 

[desura]

And here I thought the 'hate' was because the alt-right ideology is inherently violent and also contrary to the American ideal that 'all men are created equal.'
It's really disingenuous when someone claims that it's just a disagreement of words, and that they're being oppressed, when the 'disagreement' is over what they want the government to do and their party is in control of the government. Even more so when what they want the government to do is un-American and, in many cases, illegal.

There were neo-Nazis before the emergence of the alt-right. Why weren't there Antifa attacking them then? Because previous neo-Nazis were easily dismissed and easily marginalized.

The altright is much smarter than the "traditional" neo-Nazis. Just listen to any interview to compare contrast. They know when to toe the line of political correctness and when to transgress it for the lulz. A smart foe is much more threatening.

 

[Vic]

Honestly, the Left is instigating most of the violence and throwing the first punches, masking themselves, ambushing people and running away, etc.

They think they're killing Hitler in the cradle. Maybe they're right. Or maybe they're delusional.

Or maybe what happened in Seattle, where right wing counter-protesters instigated the violence in hopes of pinning it on the left, is what's happening all over.

 

[WelshBloke]

Even then, they still didn't use knives,

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[Blue_Max]

It's getting laughably desperate now. Blaming the right for the violence of the left? MRA's??

More poop swastika hoaxes?

It's frustrating expecting a fair fight from people not only well-known for cheating but are even proud of it.

 

[Vic]

There were neo-Nazis before the emergence of the alt-right. Why weren't there Antifa attacking them then? Because previous neo-Nazis were easily dismissed and easily marginalized.

The altright is much smarter than the "traditional" neo-Nazis. Just listen to any interview to compare contrast. They know when to toe the line of political correctness and when to transgress it for the lulz. A smart foe is much more threatening.

I won't argue. Because a smart foe genuinely is a greater threat.

 

[WelshBloke]

There were neo-Nazis before the emergence of the alt-right. Why weren't there Antifa attacking them then?

WTF.

That's what ANTIFA have been doing for decades.
That's pretty much all they do, they're fairly one dimensional.



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[desura]

WTF.

That's what ANTIFA have been doing for decades.
That's pretty much all they do, they're fairly one dimensional.



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No, not like this. Heck, in previous years you had the...ACLU defending the right of Neo-Nazis to march. But in years previous Neo-Nazis were essentially Satanists.

 

[WelshBloke]

No, not like this. Heck, in previous years you had the...ACLU defending the right of Neo-Nazis to march. But in years previous Neo-Nazis were essentially Satanists.

Eh. The ACLU aren't ANTIFA.

 

[jackstar7]

MRA's??

Are you suddenly not a Men's Rights Activist?

What happened? Extra soy in your diet finally regulate your hormones?

 

[jackstar7]

Eh. The ACLU aren't ANTIFA.

And the ACLU is defending Coulter FFS.

 

[Vic]

No, not like this. Heck, in previous years you had the...ACLU defending the right of Neo-Nazis to march. But in years previous Neo-Nazis were essentially Satanists.

Given the right case, the ACLU would jump in to defend the alt-right, as they have for a number of similar groups. I believe the difference here is that the alt-right seems to have better funding than the Neo-Nazis and would neither require nor want assistance from the ACLU.

Kind of a tangent next, but on the subject of the current mood of the left. Can you recall anytime in American history when someone ran for President as the Heel and won? Honestly, I can't. Even Nixon tried to be the good guy. But not Trump. And that's freaked out a lot of people. It's a kind of politics that Americans are simply not used to.

 

[amenx]

Funny though how you always side with racists, white supremacists, fascists, and nazis. But sure whatever you say there isn't a correlation between those groups and your beliefs.

Racists, white supremacists, fascists, and nazis easily inspire violence and revulsion. People understandably do not want to see a return of some Hitlerean era where these scum come to power. While vast majority of so called 'leftists' and liberals abhor violence, it is understandable that a few among them may react to such a chilling prospect. For fascists, nazis and racists, violence is more in their blood by the nature of their despicable views. Just that they can only use it when their numbers ensure they dont get the crap kicked out of them.

 

[Zaap]

Racists, white supremacists, fascists, and nazis easily inspire violence and revulsion. People understandably do not want to see a return of some Hitlerean era where these scum come to power. While vast majority of so called 'leftists' and liberals abhor violence, it is understandable that a few among them may react to such a chilling prospect. For fascists, nazis and racists, violence is more in their blood by the nature of their despicable views. Just that they can only use it when their numbers ensure they dont get the crap kicked out of them.

LOL! There are PLENTY of leftists with no qualms what-so-ever about using violence.
You just spout horseshit like you just did, leaving out communists, radical marxists, Red factions, enviro-terror groups, even the average left-leaning street thug.

 

[Orignal Earl]

There were neo-Nazis before the emergence of the alt-right. Why weren't there Antifa attacking them then? Because previous neo-Nazis were easily dismissed and easily marginalized.

The altright is much smarter than the "traditional" neo-Nazis. Just listen to any interview to compare contrast. They know when to toe the line of political correctness and when to transgress it for the lulz. A smart foe is much more threatening.

There has been ANTIFA since there has been Nazi's
Beating them up and running them out of town has always been their thing

 

[FelixDeCat]

Antifa needs to be put on a domestic terrorist watch list by Homeland Security.

 

[WelshBloke]

There has been ANTIFA since there has been Nazi's
Beating them up and running them out of town has always been their thing

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Cable_Street

 

[Orignal Earl]

No, not like this. Heck, in previous years you had the...ACLU defending the right of Neo-Nazis to march. But in years previous Neo-Nazis were essentially Satanists.

No, white supremacist groups are usually Christian Identity

 

[WelshBloke]

Antifa needs to be put on a domestic terrorist watch lists by Homeland Security.

Funnily enough some of the organisations that Antifa combat are actually on the terrorism watch list.

 

[FelixDeCat]

Funnily enough some of the organisations that Antifa combat are actually on the terrorism watch list.

So that makes their violence against innocent people acceptable? No.