More jobs going offshore *update*

LAUST

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With more and more companies doing this "offshoring" what is going to happen to our economy?
 
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MAME

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yeah but one company won't cause the entire economy to burst so if they don't go over seas, they won't be able to compete
 

LAUST

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a growing high-tech industry trend known as "offshoring."

Many companies are doing it.
 
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Siddhartha

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I wonder if white collar workers will change their attitudes about unions when more and more of their jobs go to low cost labor markets.
 

LAUST

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I do not not much about what unions capabilities are, but would they have the power to prevent things like this?
 
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Siddhartha

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I heard on the radio today that IBM was having US workers train their off shore replacements how to do their jobs.
 

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Originally posted by: Dr Smooth
I heard on the radio today that IBM was having US workers train their off shore replacements how to do their jobs.

That has high potential for backfiring. :)
 

Imdmn04

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I love it how people hates outsorcing but still buy a bunch of DELLs from hot deals every other week.
If you dont like them, do something about it and boycott them. Put your money where your mouth is and dont buy any items from dell or IBM, yes, that means not even when there is a hot deal.

But it seems that most people dont understand this is a 2way street, you wanna buy cheap stuff, then the company is gotta somehow find a way to make it cheap enough in order to appeal to the buyers. How many here would sacrifice the cheap prices for more employed americans? You all say you would, but when the next hot deal comes along, you guys are the ones who are quickest to login into dell.com
 

jpeyton

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This is a natural progression of our capitalist economy. Our labor force will evolve to fit the new model.
 

CanOWorms

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I read that IBM only gets ~40% of its sales from North America now with India and China taking over many of the sales. I guess it might make some sense for them to focus a bit more in that area. It is sad to see jobs go away, but there are tons still here and many of the jobs aren't high-profile... yet.
 

ReiAyanami

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Phase 5: The corporate structure subjects the lowly worker back to subsistence wages until revolt is inevitable.

oh dear karl marx was reight!! :confused:
 

ReiAyanami

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While the CEO's hand pink slips in one hand and bonuses to themselves in the other, even if eventually workers in america will have no money to buy anything, all that means is the foreigners will have to start buying from us!!
 

bozack

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Honestly while I would like to hope that this is a natural progression as someone had suggested I fear it is anything but...instead it is just companies trying to maximize profits by using cheap labor, in the end it will only hurt the US....oh well guess more people will join the unemployed masses that are already present.
 

StageLeft

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You all say you would, but when the next hot deal comes along, you guys are the ones who are quickest to login into dell.com
One person can't do anything about it. Without an organized boycotting - something we'll simply not see - there is no point in one person fighting the wave against the millions who still buy the cheapest. If indeed this constant flow of offshoring is going to negatively impact the economy long term, the only way around it is with new laws and regulations.
 

Miramonti

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The good news is that we'll get the jobs back when their salaries begin to exceed ours.
 

FeathersMcGraw

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Originally posted by: LAUST

With more and more companies doing this "offshoring" what is going to happen to our economy? I mean, more jobs gone from the US means less people here with money, so less products they can buy from the companies that offshore and more. Sounds like a horrible downward spiral to me.

Increased income in other countries, coupled with the weaker U.S. dollar, should increase U.S. exports, so it's not like the money's leaving and never coming back. But the time it'll take for all of that to happen won't help any of the people whose jobs are being outsourced.
 

StageLeft

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Originally posted by: jjsole
The good news is that we'll get the jobs back when their salaries begin to exceed ours.
And by then India will be a nice country to live and living in the US will be like living in India now.
 

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1 in every 3 Americans get fired or laid off from their job. Which makes the un employment statistic look more fabricated than realistic. Such a depressing statistic. I could talk about the horror stories of my company but that could take up a lot of time and explanation.
 

Frdm51472

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Whoa whoa whoa....new laws? The government has no right to tell a PRIVATE business how it can do business. That is the consumers job. You put up with it by buying their product, then you are to blame, not the government. Every time you buy a product made outside the US or which is made by a company sending its jobs outside the US, YOU are saying its ok.
 
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Originally posted by: jjsole
The good news is that we'll get the jobs back when their salaries begin to exceed ours.
Exactly, a wax and waning trend. Jobs will continue to be shipped offshore until they have to start competing for potential employees. Their salaries go up, ours go down, and they start shipping jobs back to the states.

This has been going in Ireland for some time now. Housing and cost-of-living has skyrocketed in the past decade as HP, Intel, and other big-cap companies set up shop. Eventually things will stabilize - I hope.