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hardapple

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"NASA Reports 2010 to be the Warmest Year on Record" by Jason Mick:
http://www.dailytech.com/NASA+Reports+2010+to+be+the+Warmest+Year+on+Record/article20660.htm

This is an inconvenient story for a climate change denier to cover, but watch how artfully he does it.

"According to climatologists at the National Aeronautics and Space Administration's (NASA) Goddard Institute for Space Studies (GISS) in New York, 2010 was a very hot year. While anyone who witnessed the Vikings Metrodome collapse [video] might not have seen this coming, NASA says that data from 1,000 climate stations shows 2010, as a whole, to be statistically tied for being the hottest year in recorded history [press release]."

There's no reason for Mick to bring the Metrodome video into a story like this, except that he's trying to contrast global warming with images of something really, really cold. Look for pictures of ice cubes and Siberia in future DT pieces about climate change.

"The man leading the report was infamous climatologist James Hansen, well-known as being Al Gore's climate advisor; for his claims that oil companies were committing "crimes against humanity" by doing business; and for receiving a $250,000 grant from a nonprofit run by the wife of Democratic Senator John Kerry."

James Hansen is referred to as an "infamous climatologist", suggesting he's guilty of some prior wrongdoing. His list of sins includes (1) being a climate advisor to Al Gore, (2) making inflammatory statements against the hard-working blue-collar oil companies of America, who are just trying to feed their families, and (3) taking money from leftists to lie about climate change.

Let's look at these claims in detail. First, James Hansen runs the NASA GISS, an organization whose primary research focus is climate science. Being a climate advisor is his job. I'm guessing he's climate advisor to a lot of people, one of whom is Al Gore. Second, in an op-ed he accused fossil fuel producers of "high crimes against humanity and nature", not for "doing business" as Mick says, but for hiding the link between fossil fuels and climate change just like the tobacco companies did with smoking and lung cancer. He accuses them of employing "sophisticated methods": blocking the transition to renewables, spreading doubt in the media, changing the wording of children's textbooks. That's a little more serious than just "doing business". Third, the $250,000 Hansen received from the Heinz foundation wasn't a research grant, it was an award for research he had already performed. The distinction is important because later in the post Mick argues that Hansen has a "vested financial interest" in proving climate change is real. This is complete bullshit. The Nobel Committee gives a million dollars to each Nobel Prize winner. I guess all those scientists have a vested interest in faking discoveries just so they can get some of that sweet Norwegian cheddar.

"While this data might worry some, it could actually be happy news for mankind. The slow, gradual warming shown in the report would likely over time open new shipping routes and improve agricultural viability in many regions. While some areas might be gradually rendered uninhabitable (e.g. small low-lying islands), humans would naturally migrate to new homes, and the climate change would likely make some previously minimally habitable regions more hospitable."

So, climate change is bullshit, but even if it is true, don't worry because it's going to be awesome. Sure, all those island people are fucked, but they can always move somewhere else. My British friends tell me there's plenty of land in a place called "Palestine", so we'll just put them there.

"Loss of species from climate change has certainly been suggested as a possible concern as well, but biodiversity in the Earth's warming periods has increased, not decreased historically. Current temperatures are still far below these epochs of lush biodiversity that lie in the Earth's distant past. The destruction of the rainforest and pollution of the sea have been put on the back burner during the climate debate, but represent far more serious immediate threats to our planet's biodiversity.

Again, climate change is going to fucking rock. It's going to be like Pandora, with sweet dinosaurs that you can totally ride and hot, blue, seven foot tall girlfriends for everybody. I have this on good authority from biodiversity expert Jason Mick. Once we stop caring about climate change we can focus on our rainforests and oceans, because we can't do everything at the same time, people..

So, yeah, DailyTech just sucks ass at journalism. They are a bunch of lazy, copy-and-paste bloggers who mine other tech sites and ATOT for their stories. Their coverage of climate change is an orgy of opinion and self-citation. By the time you trace a particularly obnoxious claim back to its source, you've travelled through half a dozen DT posts only to find a link to the fucking Investor's Business Daily. That's shitty journalism, folks.

I would strongly encourage Anand to fire these jackasses and hire somebody decent.
 

bfdd

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they could have fooled me. coolest year i can remember here in southern california.
 

Vic Vega

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DailyTech is a joke, everyone knows this.

Also, Anand can't fire anyone at DailyTech, it's a separate company.
 
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"NASA Reports 2010 to be the Warmest Year on Record" by Jason Mick:
http://www.dailytech.com/NASA+Reports+2010+to+be+the+Warmest+Year+on+Record/article20660.htm

This is an inconvenient story for a climate change denier to cover, but watch how artfully he does it.

"According to climatologists at the National Aeronautics and Space Administration's (NASA) Goddard Institute for Space Studies (GISS) in New York, 2010 was a very hot year. While anyone who witnessed the Vikings Metrodome collapse [video] might not have seen this coming, NASA says that data from 1,000 climate stations shows 2010, as a whole, to be statistically tied for being the hottest year in recorded history [press release]."

There's no reason for Mick to bring the Metrodome video into a story like this, except that he's trying to contrast global warming with images of something really, really cold. Look for pictures of ice cubes and Siberia in future DT pieces about climate change.

"The man leading the report was infamous climatologist James Hansen, well-known as being Al Gore's climate advisor; for his claims that oil companies were committing "crimes against humanity" by doing business; and for receiving a $250,000 grant from a nonprofit run by the wife of Democratic Senator John Kerry."

James Hansen is referred to as an "infamous climatologist", suggesting he's guilty of some prior wrongdoing. His list of sins includes (1) being a climate advisor to Al Gore, (2) making inflammatory statements against the hard-working blue-collar oil companies of America, who are just trying to feed their families, and (3) taking money from leftists to lie about climate change.

Let's look at these claims in detail. First, James Hansen runs the NASA GISS, an organization whose primary research focus is climate science. Being a climate advisor is his job. I'm guessing he's climate advisor to a lot of people, one of whom is Al Gore. Second, in an op-ed he accused fossil fuel producers of "high crimes against humanity and nature", not for "doing business" as Mick says, but for hiding the link between fossil fuels and climate change just like the tobacco companies did with smoking and lung cancer. He accuses them of employing "sophisticated methods": blocking the transition to renewables, spreading doubt in the media, changing the wording of children's textbooks. That's a little more serious than just "doing business". Third, the $250,000 Hansen received from the Heinz foundation wasn't a research grant, it was an award for research he had already performed. The distinction is important because later in the post Mick argues that Hansen has a "vested financial interest" in proving climate change is real. This is complete bullshit. The Nobel Committee gives a million dollars to each Nobel Prize winner. I guess all those scientists have a vested interest in faking discoveries just so they can get some of that sweet Norwegian cheddar.

"While this data might worry some, it could actually be happy news for mankind. The slow, gradual warming shown in the report would likely over time open new shipping routes and improve agricultural viability in many regions. While some areas might be gradually rendered uninhabitable (e.g. small low-lying islands), humans would naturally migrate to new homes, and the climate change would likely make some previously minimally habitable regions more hospitable."

So, climate change is bullshit, but even if it is true, don't worry because it's going to be awesome. Sure, all those island people are fucked, but they can always move somewhere else. My British friends tell me there's plenty of land in a place called "Palestine", so we'll just put them there.

"Loss of species from climate change has certainly been suggested as a possible concern as well, but biodiversity in the Earth's warming periods has increased, not decreased historically. Current temperatures are still far below these epochs of lush biodiversity that lie in the Earth's distant past. The destruction of the rainforest and pollution of the sea have been put on the back burner during the climate debate, but represent far more serious immediate threats to our planet's biodiversity.

Again, climate change is going to fucking rock. It's going to be like Pandora, with sweet dinosaurs that you can totally ride and hot, blue, seven foot tall girlfriends for everybody. I have this on good authority from biodiversity expert Jason Mick. Once we stop caring about climate change we can focus on our rainforests and oceans, because we can't do everything at the same time, people..

So, yeah, DailyTech just sucks ass at journalism. They are a bunch of lazy, copy-and-paste bloggers who mine other tech sites and ATOT for their stories. Their coverage of climate change is an orgy of opinion and self-citation. By the time you trace a particularly obnoxious claim back to its source, you've travelled through half a dozen DT posts only to find a link to the fucking Investor's Business Daily. That's shitty journalism, folks.

I would strongly encourage Anand to fire these jackasses and hire somebody decent.

Nice how you don't mention how Climate Change believers omit data from their models so it will show hotter than it is. From the Dailytech article.
"NASA chose to throw out or reduce the statistical significance of satellite measurements, which showed far cooler temperatures."

In essence, they made the results whatever the hell they wanted.
 
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hardapple

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Also, Anand can't fire anyone at DailyTech, it's a separate company.

Hmmm.

The last time I posted about DT I got a PM telling me AnandTech couldn't get it's news from somewhere else because they were the same company.
 

ElFenix

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this isn't the dailytech forum. maybe you should post in their comments instead of here.
 

bfdd

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It's cold where I am. Therefore, Global Warming is false.

Please tell me how you got that from my post. Why it was snarky, I by no means said it wasn't warmer on average. I was mostly stating that it was in fact quite a cool year in Southern California and this "warming trend" didn't seem to affect me.
 

zinfamous

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Nice how you don't mention how Climate Change believers omit data from their models so it will show hotter than it is. From the Dailytech article.
"NASA chose to throw out or reduce the statistical significance of satellite measurements, which showed far cooler temperatures."

In essence, they made the results whatever the hell they wanted.

there is no "belief" involved in climate change. there is plenty of hard evidence showing this to be quite solid. In fact, it is essential in the data for the vast majority of you who like to debate the human impact on climate change.

There is absolutely no argument for climate change not happening. that is fucking retarded.
 

hardapple

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Jul 26, 2005
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this did not need an ATOT thread, troll.

I thought the point of having an OT forum was so that people can post things that aren't related to computer hardware.

Apparently, the general crappiness of DailyTech is of no concern to AnandTech readers.
 

hardapple

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Jul 26, 2005
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Clearly biologists are the same as climatologists.

You're right. As a biologist I have no right to be offended if someone says the world is flat, or is 6000 years old, or is made of creamy nougat. Those are all claims that have nothing to do with my discipline.
 

DangerAardvark

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they could have fooled me. coolest year i can remember here in southern california.

Yeah, why not put your subjective personal experience right up there with climate data collected from thousands of sensors by climate scientists? And we wonder why climate change denial is so prevalent in the U.S. It's because the average jack-off has the scientific literacy of a chimp.
 

Tweak155

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I thought the point of having an OT forum was so that people can post things that aren't related to computer hardware.

Apparently, the general crappiness of DailyTech is of no concern to AnandTech readers.

Mine? At 8 posts.
 

bfdd

Lifer
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1/14/11 - its 80F

like 71 or 72f here. Was in the mid 60's yesterday. Last summer we had ONE heatwave that lasted exactly a week, besides that we saw weather above 75f but a few days and had more days in the low 70's to mid 60's than above 75f. No one I know thinks it was a warm year for Southern California except those who live inland and it's almost 15F to 20F warmer there on average anyways.
 

bfdd

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Yeah, why not put your subjective personal experience right up there with climate data collected from thousands of sensors by climate scientists? And we wonder why climate change denial is so prevalent in the U.S. It's because the average jack-off has the scientific literacy of a chimp.

Because I felt like commenting that I hadn't noticed the "warming trend" they are talking about? Also, why would they throw data they collect away? Why would they be subjective with their data? More information is always better and it's been shown time and time again that the only times they choose to ignore data is when it paints a picture they're not trying to.

I'm not a climate change denier, I believe the climate is changing, but that it always has and there is nothing we can do about it except do our best to get the fuck off this rock before it dies.