More good things from the Wisconsin union law changes.

[ProfJohn]

More goodness from the Wisconsin union laws.

It is amazing how the elimination of some work rules have huge benefits to the state and tax payers.

Stuff like this explains why Democrats are working so hard to get the law killed before the rest of the nation realizes how much money they can save by doing the same.

The bolded parts are key.

In the near future Racine County Jail inmates could be used for more than just mowing medians because of changes to collective bargaining.
For the past two years jail inmates have mowed medians on state highways in the county. But union officials said it violated collective bargaining agreements and the county has been limited on what work inmates perform.
Now with Gov. Scott Walker’s collective bargaining changes going into effect today, County Executive Jim Ladwig said inmates will be able to perform more tasks such as landscaping, painting, and shoveling sidewalks in the winter.
“We have a win-win when we use the inmates,” Ladwig said. “It gives them a sense of value they are helping the community.” At the same time, he said it will help the county maintain property that has been neglected.
No inmates would be required to help with county work, but those who do could receive reduced sentences, he said. Because of past union grievances the county was not able to offer reduced sentences. It was considered “compensation,” Ladwig said. But he plans to reinstate it.
He plans to start using inmates for more county work in the next few weeks. The use of inmates will not result in any public works staff reductions, Ladwig said.


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[First]

You know you suck at P&N when you're using inmate labor as a reason to cut actual, legit labor be it union or private. lmao.

 

[sportage]

Don't forget their opportunity to RUN... RUN AWAY... RUN RUN RUN ... RUN AWAY. 😀

 

[spidey07]

You know you suck at P&N when you're using inmate labor as a reason to cut actual, legit labor be it union or private. lmao.

We're paying for them, might as well use them.

We, The Tax Paying American.

And don't think this doesn't already happen in your state, it surely does in mine. Do you know what a "chain gang" is? Or are you pissed because the union thugs lost their shovel ready projects of 12 workers on the job, 1 digging and the rest to supervise?

 

[theeedude]

More goodness from the Wisconsin union laws.

It is amazing how the elimination of some work rules have huge benefits to the state and tax payers.

Stuff like this explains why Democrats are working so hard to get the law killed before the rest of the nation realizes how much money they can save by doing the same.

The bolded parts are key.

Great, more law abiding Americans out of work, replaced with prison labor. Conservatism is a gift that just keeps on giving.

 

[matt0611]

Great, more law abiding Americans out of work, replaced with prison labor. Conservatism is a gift that just keeps on giving.

Lol if inmates can do your job I doubt it was very sophisticated.

No reason not to use virtually free labor if its cheaper to do so.

 

[theeedude]

Lol if inmates can do your job I doubt it was very sophisticated.

No reason not to use virtually free labor if its cheaper to do so.

Because only "sophisticated" law abiding people deserve a job in the Conservative ideology. The rest should be competing with prison labor for scraps. "Good things" indeed.

 

[Throckmorton]

Yes, this is just what we need, prisoners out in the street wielding landscaping tools, sharpened aluminum snow shovels, and toxic chemicals.

GREAT IDEA REPUBLICANS.


Wait, now I get it. This is the closest you assholes can come to reinstituting slavery.

 

[HeXen]

there is nothing sophisticated about mowing county grass. I'd rather see my tax dollars having inmates out there getting production rather than sit there....cause you know damn well that the work their doing WILL NOT get done otherwise without further expense to taxpayers.

 

[D-Man]

tks prof for the heads up I missed that. If you get men out of their cells and give them a little work it has to be good for them.

 

[matt0611]

Because only "sophisticated" law abiding people deserve a job in the Conservative ideology. The rest should be competing with prison labor for scraps. "Good things" indeed.

Lol, nice shoving words in my mouth.
par for the course for you though.

Might as well use free resources just sitting there idle. No reason not to if it saves the tax payers some money.

 

[theeedude]

Lol, nice shoving words in my mouth.
par for the course for you though.

Might as well use free resources just sitting there idle. No reason not to if it saves the tax payers some money.

That's right, I'll shove your own words in your mouth and make you choke on them. So watch what you spew.

 

[matt0611]

That's right, I'll shove your own words in your mouth and make you choke on them. So watch what you spew.

No, you shove your own words into other peoples mouth because you got nothing but "republicans/conservatives are evil". You're hardly a step above dave.

 

[Paul98]

We should be using inmates to do work, it's not cheap to keep them in jail. Might as well get something for our money.

 

[theeedude]

No, you shove your own words into other peoples mouth because you got nothing but "republicans/conservatives are evil". You're hardly a step above dave.

"Lol if inmates can do your job I doubt it was very sophisticated.

No reason not to use virtually free labor if its cheaper to do so."

Those are YOUR words, stop running away from them. If you think it's funny to have inmates take un-sophisticated jobs from law abiding Americans, then OWN it. If you don't see a reason to not use virtually free prison labor to undercut wages of law abiding citizens who have to pay their bills, then OWN that too. Stop whining like a little bitch that someone is shoving words in your mouth, when they are your own words.

 

[matt0611]

"Lol if inmates can do your job I doubt it was very sophisticated.

No reason not to use virtually free labor if its cheaper to do so."

Those are YOUR words, stop running away from them. If you think it's funny to have inmates take un-sophisticated jobs from law abiding Americans, then OWN it. If you don't see a reason to not use virtually free prison labor to undercut wages of law abiding citizens who have to pay their bills, then OWN that too. Stop whining like a little bitch that someone is shoving words in your mouth, when they are your own words.

If resources are sitting idle to do a task for free there is no reason to tax someone's hard earned money to pay someone to do it. It makes sense.

Why don't we just hire 5 people to do the job of 1 government worker?
It gives jobs to more people right? That's where your idiotic logic leads.

Keep taxing struggling americans more than we need to. That's your ideology. Nice.

No where did I say "unsophisticated people don't deserve a job". They should have a job if its needed or demanded for. But again, you love shoving your own garbage into people's mouth.
Stop acting like a bitch cause you got called out on it.

 

[theeedude]

If resources are sitting idle to do a task for free there is no reason to tax someone's hard earned money to pay someone to do it. It makes sense.

These prisoners are paid with taxpayer money, and they are going to put law abiding tax payers out of work.

Why don't we just hire 5 people to do the job of 1 government worker?
It gives jobs to more people right? That's where your idiotic logic leads.

Lol, same guy whining like a little panzy over having his own words shoved in his mouth, is now spewing a slippery slope argument.

Keep taxing struggling americans more than we need to. That's your ideology. Nice.

And your ideology is to keep those Americans struggling by forcing them to compete with prison labor. Nice.

No where did I say "unsophisticated people don't deserve a job". They should have a job if its needed or demanded for. But again, you love shoving your own garbage into people's mouth.

So if it's not demanded for because a prisoner is doing it for free, unsophisticated people should not have a job. That's what you are fighting for, at least have the balls to OWN it.

Stop acting like a bitch cause you got called out on it.

Very original.🙄

 

[matt0611]

Wow you are a fucking idiot. Nice try to dodge my question though, bitch.

Let me guess, if we can build machines to do their work for almost free we shouldn't do it either?

Also, if you're getting PAID by the state, how are you paying taxes to the state? Its a net transfer of funds from the state to you.

LMAO, wow, I retract my statement putting you above dave, you are worse than dave.

 

[CPA]

You know you suck at P&N when you're using inmate labor as a reason to cut actual, legit labor be it union or private. lmao.

Nice job reading the article. Oh wait, you obviously didn't.

That said, if using inmate labor reduced public union labor, I'd be all for it.

 

[matt0611]

We should be using inmates to do work, it's not cheap to keep them in jail. Might as well get something for our money.

Yup exactly, only a fool lets free resources sit idle.

 

[theeedude]

Wow you are a fucking idiot. Nice try to dodge my question though, bitch.

Sorry, I called you whiney bitch first. Calling me one in return is not going to make you any less of one.

Let me guess, if we can build machines to do their work for almost free we shouldn't do it either?

You are comparing prison labor with machines? Machines are cheaper due to being more efficient, prison labor is cheaper because it's upkeep is paid by the same people it's competing against for jobs.

Also, if you're getting PAID by the state, how are you paying taxes to the state? Its a net transfer of funds from the state to you.

In exchange for services provided. You got a problem with that?
I know, it's shocking law abiding citizens getting paid a living wage and paying taxes on it. If only there were some prison labor we could use to make that come to an end.

LMAO, wow, I retract my statement putting you above dave, you are worse than dave.

You are easily amused and wowed. I am not surprised.

 

[charrison]

Great, more law abiding Americans out of work, replaced with prison labor. Conservatism is a gift that just keeps on giving.

Hey I thought prison was supposed to be about reforming people, not just punishment. Would not these work programs help move these people back to useful members of society? It kinda works both ways if you ask me.

 

[ProfJohn]

Great, more law abiding Americans out of work, replaced with prison labor. Conservatism is a gift that just keeps on giving.

Did you read the article?

No one is losing their job. Instead the people of Racine will have clean streets and parks than they did before because these prisoners can be put to work on the low skilled jobs such as trash pick up while the highly paid union workers doing the skilled labor.

And this gives the prisoners a chance to get out and enjoy a little bit of freedom and gives them incentive to behave while in jail.

Everyone wins!!!
(except the unions who are only interested in themselves and their union dues)

 

[matt0611]

How are people being PAID by the state taxpayers of the state?
You still haven't answered that gem.

Machines are cheaper because they do the job for less money per output of work they do. Duh.

If you get prisoners to do the same job for virtually free that you would have had to pay someone to do, its the same exact concept. Its a win for the taxpayers of the state.
They get more for their money.

 

[theeedude]

Did you read the article?

No one is losing their job. Instead the people of Racine will have clean streets and parks than they did before because these prisoners can be put to work on the low skilled jobs such as trash pick up while the highly paid union workers doing the skilled labor.

And this gives the prisoners a chance to get out and enjoy a little bit of freedom and gives them incentive to behave while in jail.

Everyone wins!!!
(except the unions who are only interested in themselves and their union dues)

If you believe that, I got some Reaganomics to sell to you.