More conservative entitlement hypocrisy

[piasabird]

So what you are saying is you want to kick your grandma to the curb and starve her to death and deny her healthcare? It is obvious we need to do something for older people who are basically indigent without SS and medicair. However we cant keep spending half of the US Federal Budget on them. Their are limits to what any country can do for the poor and the elderly.

In the meantime just keep borrowing money till we can no longer borrow money, like we have an endless pot of Gold! That is a plan for disaster, if I ever saw one!

Maybe we can give all these angry old people guns and send them to Somalia to die fighting.

 

[pcgeek11]

So what you are saying is you want to kick your grandma to the curb and starve her to death and deny her healthcare? It is obvious we need to do something for older people who are basically indigent without SS and medicair. However we cant keep spending half of the US Federal Budget on them. Their are limits to what any country can do for the poor and the elderly.

In the meantime just keep borrowing money till we can no longer borrow money, like we have an endless pot of Gold! That is a plan for disaster, if I ever saw one!

Maybe we can give all these angry old people guns and send them to Somalia to die fighting.

It isn't the old people that you claim. It is people that take advantage of the system such as SS Disability, Medicaid, Doctors and false claims ... that is where the spending cuts should start.

 

[pcgeek11]

He means if the wife goes back to work while the husband takes 3 months maternity leave.

Why would a man do that? It is stupid IMO.

 

[RocksteadyDotNet]

Why would a man do that? It is stupid IMO.

Are you purposely being obtuse?

What if the woman is a lawyer and the husband works at Best Buy? Maybe they want 200k coming in instead of 30k.

Crazy, I know! The woman should stick to bible approved work.

 

[PingviN]

Why would a man do that? It is stupid IMO.

Why wouldn't a man do that? Stuck in the 1950's much?

 

[Macamus Prime]

It hit me this morning, most of the conservative slime on these boards are wannabe fingermen.

Congrats, you are no longer yapping lap dogs - you are just big old stupid tools, who enjoy and look forward to being big old stupid tools.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Where is the evidence it is going to "vastly increase our premiums?"

Remember when we had a discussion on this when the debate was on and the response was that Congress knows how to write laws? In essence my reply was that they can produce legislation but that does not guarantee that it would be good.

Now it's been passed, and it's in the 2k+ page bill, but since Congress knows just what's it's doing. Right, just like it knows how to do a far simpler thing, the budget. Of course you can claim I'm making it up, but you've probably figured out I really don't care. The neck is in the noose.

Yes, premiums will be going up for younger citizens. I'm not going to help you find it because you are one of the more legally inclined and you have no idea. You'll either bother to ferret it out or not but I have no interest in convincing anyone. I'm just going to bring marshmallows and hot dogs to the roast.

Health care actuaries are trying to figure out how to handle this particular cluster. My brother happens to be one and he's laughing about the whole thing as he reads the headlines. It's going to be a headache, but with the consensus that Congress knows health care better than anyone else it's justice.

This was lusted after by some, and when it happens (not "if" because it's part of the bill) I'll listen to how insurance companies are ripping people off while the reason will be that it's mandated by the government crying that UHC is the only solution. The goal appears to be to poison the well, and it's proceeding nicely.

 

[Nebor]

It hit me this morning, most of the conservative slime on these boards are wannabe fingermen.

Congrats, you are no longer yapping lap dogs - you are just big old stupid tools, who enjoy and look forward to being big old stupid tools.

I'd rather work at one of the camps than be a fingerman, personally.

 

[CitizenKain]

On average lets say starting salary of $32,000 increasing by 3.5% per year and paying 1/3 of health care and NO TENURE. Public sector workers should not make more than their private sector equals.

Why? What reason is there they they should only make 32k a year? I doubt you have the ability to tell anyone why, but I'd love to see you try to drum up a reason. Or is there a rightwing article I should just read instead that you will copy/paste from.

 

[soundforbjt]

Remember when we had a discussion on this when the debate was on and the response was that Congress knows how to write laws? In essence my reply was that they can produce legislation but that does not guarantee that it would be good.

Now it's been passed, and it's in the 2k+ page bill, but since Congress knows just what's it's doing. Right, just like it knows how to do a far simpler thing, the budget. Of course you can claim I'm making it up, but you've probably figured out I really don't care. The neck is in the noose.

Yes, premiums will be going up for younger citizens. I'm not going to help you find it because you are one of the more legally inclined and you have no idea. You'll either bother to ferret it out or not but I have no interest in convincing anyone. I'm just going to bring marshmallows and hot dogs to the roast.

Health care actuaries are trying to figure out how to handle this particular cluster. My brother happens to be one and he's laughing about the whole thing as he reads the headlines. It's going to be a headache, but with the consensus that Congress knows health care better than anyone else it's justice.

This was lusted after by some, and when it happens (not "if" because it's part of the bill) I'll listen to how insurance companies are ripping people off while the reason will be that it's mandated by the government crying that UHC is the only solution. The goal appears to be to poison the well, and it's proceeding nicely.

Guess what? Premiums have always gone up and not down, no matter what.

 

[her209]

I remember Jon Stewart showing clips of this woman talking on Fox when the Wisconsin debate was going on. First he shows a clip of her talking about how teachers who make $50k a year are fat cats, then he shows her saying a few years ago when people wanted to cut Executive bonuses of bailed out financial firms that a person who makes $250k a year with a family of 4 is basically in the poor house.

She's a hyprocrite, an idiot, a monster, and a insane conservative. All of which is also summed up by saying, she's a true Republican.

The Daily Show also ran a video of of Fox News claiming the morning shows were strictly news shows, but then showed clips of the Megyn Kelly Show.

Here it is:
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-march-3-2010/anchor-management

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Guess what? Premiums have always gone up and not down, no matter what.

Guess what? This isn't market driven. This is obamacare specific and mandated as a consequence of how it's designed, but you knew that, right?

 

[soundforbjt]

Guess what? This isn't market driven. This is obamacare specific and mandated as a consequence of how it's designed, but you knew that, right?

Sure, but does that explain why premiums always go up? No, it doesn't. Market driven is code word for we want more money for less coverage.

 

[Lithium381]

always looking to cut costs. it's a business. shady and sometimes immoral, but it's a business. think you can do it better? go for it

 

[AyashiKaibutsu]

On average lets say starting salary of $32,000 increasing by 3.5% per year and paying 1/3 of health care and NO TENURE. Public sector workers should not make more than their private sector equals.

That's actually what my wife is making right now in Florida... sans the 3.5% raises. They froze their wages to make a deal for healthcare and then they backed out of the healthcare part of it. The shit news feeds you about what to rage against isn't trustworthy btw.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Sure, but does that explain why premiums always go up? No, it doesn't. Market driven is code word for we want more money for less coverage.

It means that rates are adjusted to take into account increased costs. That means that when demographics are accounted for things get more pricey. Boomers would naturally use more resources than twentysomethings. Fortunately they won't have to worry. Phokus wants to pay and he certainly will. I bookmarked this for future laughs.

 

[Generator]

These right wing frauds are a disgrace to this country. This white welfare that is whitewashed into something more noble because its for themselves and not other people who are of course dead weight. The hypocrisy is SUFFOCATINGLY STUPID!

 

[pcgeek11]

Are you purposely being obtuse?

What if the woman is a lawyer and the husband works at Best Buy? Maybe they want 200k coming in instead of 30k.

Crazy, I know! The woman should stick to bible approved work.

Like a female lawyer is going to marry a douche that works at best buy! I guess I am old fashioned. My wife has never worked and has been a stay at home mom.

 

[RocksteadyDotNet]

Like a female lawyer is going to marry a douche that works at best buy! I guess I am old fashioned. My wife has never worked and has been a stay at home mom.

You keep calling yourself old fashioned like it's a good thing. It's not.

Don't advertise yourself as ignorant and backward.

 

[boochi]

Why? What reason is there they they should only make 32k a year? I doubt you have the ability to tell anyone why, but I'd love to see you try to drum up a reason. Or is there a rightwing article I should just read instead that you will copy/paste from.

32k is a starting salary. A 25 year veteran would be making 73k. A teacher fresh out of college has a lot to prove. Without tenure, we weed out the teachers that can't hack it.

 

[BarneyFife]

The Republicans on anandtech aka the highest wage for them is 40k and the rest are lucky to make $12 hour yet will cut their own throat off to save money for the billionaires. God, you guys are dumb as a rock.

 

[Budmantom]

So yeah, i've had quite a few rants about the 'fuck you, got mine' 'Gubmint better keep it's hands off my medicare' wing of the republican party (aka the tea party), but i was a bit taken aback by Megan Kelly's whiny rant about Maternity leave (and how the US is in the 'dark ages' compared to other countries that mandate even better maternity leave by law... Aka "SOCIALIST" countries) as contrasted by her earlier rants on entitlements that OTHER people get:

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-august-11-2011/lactate-intolerance

When conservatives say they want smaller government/less entitlements, what they mean is, 'smaller government' and 'less entitlements' for EVERYONE ELSE.

Megan is dumb as fuck, if a man tried taking 3 months off work to care for a baby, everyone would look down on him and the business would find some excuse to fire him that wouldn't get them into trouble with the law that she's talking about, women rarely get into trouble for taking full advantage of maternity leave.

Well you would have a point if it was the gubment paying for her time off.

If you want hypocrisy just look at the White House, tax cheat on top of tax cheat trying to raise the taxes on the rest of us and a man at the top running the country that has never run anything, a man creating jobs in the free market that has never had a job in the free market (but I guess the last part is irony not hypocrisy).

 

[pcgeek11]

You keep calling yourself old fashioned like it's a good thing. It's not.

Don't advertise yourself as ignorant and backward.

Old Fashioned and Traditional isn't "ignorant or backward". Not in all cases anyway. It is a good thing if done correctly. I've supported my family, my wife took care of the kid and the household. My kid was never left to do for himself because both parents were out working.
It may not be all cool and modern, but it works better than what is going on now. Way better!

But you are entitled to you opinion. No matter how screwed up it is in my opinion!