More conservative entitlement hypocrisy

[thraashman]

I thought the Fox News "hard news" reporters were supposed to be intellectually honest?

Expecting them to be intellectual in any way was your first mistake.

 

[soundforbjt]

Expecting them to be honest in any way was your first mistake.

Fify

 

[boochi]

I remember Jon Stewart showing clips of this woman talking on Fox when the Wisconsin debate was going on. First he shows a clip of her talking about how teachers who make $50k a year are fat cats, then he shows her saying a few years ago when people wanted to cut Executive bonuses of bailed out financial firms that a person who makes $250k a year with a family of 4 is basically in the poor house.

She's a hyprocrite, an idiot, a monster, and a insane conservative. All of which is also summed up by saying, she's a true Republican.

Teachers making more than 50k/year average off the public dime are fat cats when they have the benefits package they have in Wisconsin. Teachers in the 90th percentile in Wisconsin make more than 70k/year, get almost free health care and about 4 months off a year. No public school teacher should be paid that much. With tenure in place in many areas there is no accountability for student performance either.

 

[piasabird]

No one forces women to have babies.

I dont think the government should pay women to have babies.
This makes them government whores. How did we get all these government prostitutes? People are just lining up for free money. Free money for having babies is one reason so many foreigners immigrate to the USA. Their country of origin is not stupid enough to pay them to have a baby.

 

[woolfe9999]

Teachers making more than 50k/year average off the public dime are fat cats when they have the benefits package they have in Wisconsin. Teachers in the 90th percentile in Wisconsin make more than 70k/year, get almost free health care and about 4 months off a year. No public school teacher should be paid that much. With tenure in place in many areas there is no accountability for student performance either.

I agree with you about the problems with tenure and advocate more of a merit based system. However, on the issue of salaries and benefits, what makes someone who educates our youth less economically valuable than say, an accountant who prepares your taxes? I'm failing to understand why teachers should not receive comfortable levels of compensation.

 

[boochi]

They are public employees working on tax payer money. My accountant is not.

 

[woolfe9999]

They are public employees working on tax payer money. My accountant is not.

They are educating our youth. Your accountant is not.

Crappy education is something America cannot afford, economically or otherwise.

 

[boochi]

The average Wisconsin teachers insurance family plan costs more than 20k+/year and of that 96% was covered by the tax payer.
http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/news/113408329.html
So a teacher making the average in Wisconsin 52k+/year and on the family plan was making about 73k/year in salaries and benefits. That is living a little too comfortably on the tax payers dime.

 

[her209]

Remember an entitlement is something that comes from the government, NOT something provided for you from a private company.

Wrong. The Republican definition of an entitlement is "something you feel you should get just because".

 

[soundforbjt]

The average Wisconsin teachers insurance family plan costs more than 20k+/year and of that 96% was covered by the tax payer.
http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/news/113408329.html
So a teacher making the average in Wisconsin 52k+/year and on the family plan was making about 73k/year in salaries and benefits. That is living a little too comfortably on the tax payers dime.

What do you think a teacher's salary should be? And do you have salary
recommendations for all other job/professions as well? Or are you just an expert on public teacher's salaries?

 

[Macamus Prime]

Sounds about right; don't touch MY money/rights, but its OK for me to touch, take, spend, burn, waste, misuse, abuse, voilate and destroy YOUR money/rights.

American conservatives are nothing more than filthy swine.

 

[HomerJS]

The average Wisconsin teachers insurance family plan costs more than 20k+/year and of that 96% was covered by the tax payer.
http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/news/113408329.html
So a teacher making the average in Wisconsin 52k+/year and on the family plan was making about 73k/year in salaries and benefits. That is living a little too comfortably on the tax payers dime.

There are county officials in WI who make 95K/year. I guess you would approve since your buddy Scott gave them a raise to that salary.

Oh I'm sorry forgot teachers are responsible for WIs economic woes.

 

[Lithium381]

wow..... isn't it against everything the women have been trying to acheive since at least 1919??? equality? um, if you don't want to lose your job and have to stay home and take care of a baby...... dont' get pregnant?

 

[PingviN]

wow..... isn't it against everything the women have been trying to acheive since at least 1919??? equality? um, if you don't want to lose your job and have to stay home and take care of a baby...... dont' get pregnant?

Leave should regard both parents, spending time with your kids is important.

 

[Fern]

This is a stretch.

Talking about employer business policies is not the same as government entitlements. I do see how there could be overlap, but no evidence of such is presented here.

Is a 40 hrs work week, or 5 day work week a government entitlement? I've never heard it argued that it is.

Fern

 

[boochi]

What do you think a teacher's salary should be? And do you have salary
recommendations for all other job/professions as well? Or are you just an expert on public teacher's salaries?

On average lets say starting salary of $32,000 increasing by 3.5% per year and paying 1/3 of health care and NO TENURE. Public sector workers should not make more than their private sector equals.

 

[soundforbjt]

On average lets say starting salary of $32,000 increasing by 3.5% per year and paying 1/3 of health care and NO TENURE. Public sector workers should not make more than their private sector equals.

What do you think a private school teacher makes?

This is average from 2003-2004. Could'nt find anything more current.

Teacher (Curriculum) 54,882 low 98,273 high

Librarian 41,868 low 72,759 high​

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[Red Dawn]

On average lets say starting salary of $32,000 increasing by 3.5% per year and paying 1/3 of health care and NO TENURE. Public sector workers should not make more than their private sector equals.

Public Sector Teachers have a much tougher job. Unlike their Private Sector brethren they don't have the parental involvement in the education of the kids.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

So while you are ranting do you realize that health care reform is going to vastly increase your premiums in order to make insurance cheaper for the elderly? 2014- be ready.

Still, the Dems wanted it so you got it. Congrats!

 

[woolfe9999]

So while you are ranting do you realize that health care reform is going to vastly increase your premiums in order to make insurance cheaper for the elderly? 2014- be ready.

Still, the Dems wanted it so you got it. Congrats!

Where is the evidence it is going to "vastly increase our premiums?"

 

[pcgeek11]

Megan is dumb as fuck, if a man tried taking 3 months off work to care for a baby, everyone would look down on him and the business would find some excuse to fire him that wouldn't get them into trouble with the law that she's talking about, women rarely get into trouble for taking full advantage of maternity leave.

Why would a man take off for three months because his wife had a healthy baby? In the case of a severely sick baby or wife OK, that is a different case. I just don't see it for a normal birth. Maybe I'm just too old school in that respect. The man should be providing for his family, not laying around the house for three months.

 

[Corn]

More typical righty hypocrisy. I sucked of the US government tit and now I want to cut it off.

http://blogs.citypages.com/blotter/2011/07/michele_bachman_fannie_mae_freddie_mac_loans.php

It is hard to say who is more stupid, you or Phokedup. FNMA or FHLMC do not lend money to consumers. They buy loans from banks and other mortgage lenders. Ms Bachman has no control over who sells her loan to whom. You moronic liberals fail once again.

 

[ProfJohn]

The average Wisconsin teachers insurance family plan costs more than 20k+/year and of that 96% was covered by the tax payer.
http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/news/113408329.html
So a teacher making the average in Wisconsin 52k+/year and on the family plan was making about 73k/year in salaries and benefits. That is living a little too comfortably on the tax payers dime.

Last year before the new law Milwaukee paid out an average of $100k per teacher for pay + benefits...

$100k for a 9 month a year job...

 

[HomerJS]

Last year before the new law Milwaukee paid out an average of $100k per teacher for pay + benefits...

$100k for a 9 month a year job...

First of all that teacher job is not 9 months. You are not factoring in out of classroom work, prep work over the summer.

Want to addresss this?
http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=32133264&postcount=37

That 95K is just salary.

 

[RocksteadyDotNet]

Why would a man take off for three months because his wife had a healthy baby? In the case of a severely sick baby or wife OK, that is a different case. I just don't see it for a normal birth. Maybe I'm just too old school in that respect. The man should be providing for his family, not laying around the house for three months.

He means if the wife goes back to work while the husband takes 3 months maternity leave.