More Affluenza and Another Judge That Needs to Be Removed

[Ken g6]

Hopefully there is some room to appeal this.

I think it's likely. Double jeopardy means prosecutors can't appeal a not-guilty verdict. Like, say, in a case where someone was acquitted of murder charges. Except in Italy.

In this case, prosecutors got a guilty verdict, but a light sentence. I think it's likely the sentence could be appealed up. But if not, it's probation, so they could have an investigator follow him around looking for violations. The victim might even be able to hire a PI to do that.

 

[Torn Mind]

Seems par the course for any state under the pressure of prison reform. When chasing numbers is the goal, that means everyone becomes eligible to get lighter sentences.

Once probation ends, that's when the criminal will go hog wild.

This is a New York state matter to deal with.

 

[Vic]

Seems par the course for any state under the pressure of prison reform. When chasing numbers is the goal, that means everyone becomes eligible to get lighter sentences.

Once probation ends, that's when the criminal will go hog wild.

This is a New York state matter to deal with.

This has nothing to do with prison reform or lighter sentences. This is about how some privileged people get off easy.

 

[Torn Mind]

This has nothing to do with prison reform or lighter sentences. This is about how some privileged people get off easy.

I see nothing that deviates from the standard fare of the "legal system" letting a lot slide, especially for juveniles. That is the allegation of a lawyer, Steven M Cohen.

One thing that my life has taught me is that lawyers are truly trained sociopaths. They'll say whatever is prudent for the situation at hand. Mr. Cohen himself, has danced on both sides of the courtroom.

The judge remarks of "praying" over the matter, are nothing more than meaningless, illogical fluff for the untrained masses to digest to cover the economic and "appearance" factors behind lax sentencing. And yes, a plea is in itself a reward for lax sentencing. But no lawyer will rat out his own occupation and source of income.

If there was jail time was indeed washed out by "privilege", I would not have expected more than three months even for the lowliest commoner given the factor of youth, locality, taking the plea bargain, the economic cost of incarceration compared to probation, and the indirect political pressure to reduce incarceration numbers across the board.

 

[HomerJS]

I see nothing that deviates from the standard fare of the "legal system" letting a lot slide, especially for juveniles. That is the allegation of a lawyer, Steven M Cohen.

Really? Tell that to the family of Kalief Browder. 3 years @Rikers for the allegation of stealing a backpack.
Kalief Browder, teen who awaited trial for 3 years at Rikers, kills himself | PBS NewsHour

 

[Zorba]

From reading several articles, sounds like the judge was suckered by his fake remorse act. Funny he didn't feel enough remorse after the first crime to not crime again, and again, and again. Nope, no remorse until he got caught.

Bear in mind that he already cut a sweetheart plea deal with the DA before this. The two felonies and two misdemeanors he plead guilty to did not really match the crimes he committed. But he could still get up to 8 years, then got zero.

He's serial. He's going to re-offend. Which will be on the judge.

I haven't read all the back ground, was he originally charged with Rape 1 or 2? I'm guessing 8 years would normally be pretty long for Rape 3. Not saying if that is right or wrong, but it's listed as an E felony.

 

[nakedfrog]

You are completely missing the point of this thread. Go to some of the other court case threads that have nothing to do with Race or White Privilege. This reply doesn't have to do with either. I found it funny looking at another thread where they said "
Republics "They don’t care about the rule of law or Justice being served or innocent until proven guilty they want anarchy. They are detrimental to any high functioning society and especially to democracy."

But a Dem judge lets a 4 time racist off instead of the 8 years+ the DA recommended. This is AFTER he broke the rules of his parole. Point, it happens in both parties. You can blame white privilege, but in the same breath, you are calling this "old news" and don't once mention that this is happening under your parties watch. Why isn't the Dem Judge stopping this white privilege? I'm confused how they promote their platform as tax the rich and give back to the middle and lower class. Those are the people they care the most about. But hey, if this kid is rich, rape is OK!!!

I find that very odd and hypocritical. Only condemning when the opposite party does wrong, but turning a blind eye when it happens under your parties watch.

Look in this thread. Post 4, 7, 9, 13 are pointing out exactly what you're saying they don't point out. Where are the people giving tacit approval just because the judge is apparently a Democrat? And let's not forget, many of us aren't exactly satisfied with Democratic leadership either, but given our current political system, they're better than the alternative death cult.

 

[LikeLinus]

Look in this thread. Post 4, 7, 9, 13 are pointing out exactly what you're saying they don't point out. Where are the people giving tacit approval just because the judge is apparently a Democrat? And let's not forget, many of us aren't exactly satisfied with Democratic leadership either, but given our current political system, they're better than the alternative death cult.

That's not what I said they didn't point out. I was saying they never pointed out that it was a democrat. But you go in to the other thread about court cases that have nothing to do with political agenda, but people start trashing on the evil empire. Just point out the obvious hypocrisy in these threads. It's never an intelligent discussion in a lot of cases. It's "Republican's are evil, racist, care nothing but for the rich..." and so on. Yet you have, as some say here, a white privilege case and no one brings up the fact that your party is doing exactly what the other party is doing? It's ignored because one is worse than the other, so it's OK to ignore!

True, you are choosing the lesser of two evils. But that doesn't mean you shouldn't think on your own and just follow a party lines because it's the easier option. The world isn't going to change until voices are heard. That's all. Just ironic and point it out because I knew you'd people would get triggered by it. As my point was proven. Don't talk about our party!!!

 

[nakedfrog]

That's not what I said they didn't point out. I was saying they never pointed out that it was a democrat. But you go in to the other thread about court cases that have nothing to do with political agenda, but people start trashing on the evil empire. Just point out the obvious hypocrisy in these threads.

True, you are choosing the lesser of two evils. But that doesn't mean you shouldn't think on your own and just follow a party lines because it's the easier option. The world isn't going to change until voices are heard. That's all.

It's hypocrisy because everyone is already deriding the judge's decision and didn't bother to point out that he was a Democrat?

Oh, I see you had more to say. Don't call it "my party", I'm an independent. It just so happens that right now, you've basically got "fascist death cult" or not, and I'm an undesirable who's not keen on my own personal death just yet, so I'm voting "not death cult".

 

[Pohemi]

Just ironic and point it out because I knew you'd people would get triggered by it. As my point was proven. Don't talk about our party!!!

From your locked thread:

Justices do not run and get elected on a partisan platform or basis. Judges almost always have some slant to their personal beliefs, the oaths they take are to not let that affect decisions. It still happens, of course.

It's funny that you pounce on a single case with a single judge who has Democratic leanings...whose decision is already being condemned here and elsewhere by other liberals.

What you are doing here is attributing a bad bench decision to the ENTIRE Democratic party and all liberals. It's pretty fucking stupid. And laughable.

You trigger yourself and then attempt to project it on those here already denouncing it.

 

[LikeLinus]

You are the only one trying to politicize this judge's sentencing decision as the opinions and beliefs of the entire Democratic party. And I guess one thread wasn't sufficient.

You keep triggering yourself while projecting it at the people here who have already denounced it.

I'm pretty sure you've smoked yourself stupid. I created one thread not realizing this one existed. I ONLY responded to this thread because nakedfrog quoted my response in the other thread in this thread.

 

[Pohemi]

I'm pretty sure you've smoked yourself stupid. I created one thread not realizing this one existed. I ONLY responded to this thread because nakedfrog quoted my response in the other thread in this thread.

Can't open your eyes to what has already been posted on the forum here...but I'M the one on drugs? LOL.

Okay, toolshed. Project some more.

 

[LikeLinus]

It's hypocrisy because everyone is already deriding the judge's decision and didn't bother to point out that he was a Democrat?

Oh, I see you had more to say. Don't call it "my party", I'm an independent. It just so happens that right now, you've basically got "fascist death cult" or not, and I'm an undesirable who's not keen on my own personal death just yet, so I'm voting "not death cult".

Sorry, I really wasn't targeting you personally with "your", it was more in response to the collective responding to other threads. I get what you are saying. I was saying it's hypocritical because they are point it out in other threads that have nothing to do with politics. But they don't point it out in threads like that. It is hypocrite. They are picking and choosing who they want to attack and where. Again, not talking you specifically. It's the gang mentality.

We get it Pohemi420, you like to use emojis like a 12 year old girl on every post. That tells you everything you ever needed to know about you.

 

[Artorias]

Yeah I agree no jail time.

Instead lets castrate him so that way he can get back to being a productive member of society without sexual urges.

Just imagine that there are people in jail for weed possession and then you got people like this going free.

 

[MrSquished]

That's not what I said they didn't point out. I was saying they never pointed out that it was a democrat. But you go in to the other thread about court cases that have nothing to do with political agenda, but people start trashing on the evil empire. Just point out the obvious hypocrisy in these threads. It's never an intelligent discussion in a lot of cases. It's "Republican's are evil, racist, care nothing but for the rich..." and so on. Yet you have, as some say here, a white privilege case and no one brings up the fact that your party is doing exactly what the other party is doing? It's ignored because one is worse than the other, so it's OK to ignore!

True, you are choosing the lesser of two evils. But that doesn't mean you shouldn't think on your own and just follow a party lines because it's the easier option. The world isn't going to change until voices are heard. That's all. Just ironic and point it out because I knew you'd people would get triggered by it. As my point was proven. Don't talk about our party!!!

Of course there are shitty Democrats. The Democrats are a standard political party. They have some corruption, some assholes, some bad policy, some fringe wackadoos.

The Republican party is no standard political party anymore though, the majority of the party is simply evil. Majority bad hombres. The fringe wackadoos are the fucking majority base.

There is a huge difference between the parties.

People that try to both sides this are also a part of the problem. That's a bunch of dangerous bullshit

 

[LikeLinus]

From your locked thread:

Justices do not run and get elected on a partisan platform or basis. Judges almost always have some slant to their personal beliefs, the oaths they take are to not let that affect decisions. It still happens, of course.

It's funny that you pounce on a single case with a single judge who has Democratic leanings...whose decision is already being condemned here and elsewhere by other liberals.

What you are doing here is attributing a bad bench decision to the ENTIRE Democratic party and all liberals. It's pretty fucking stupid. And laughable.

You trigger yourself and then attempt to project it on those here already denouncing it.

Because you edited your post.

As I pointed out in the other thread. You had members talking about another court case that mentioned - Republics "They don’t care about the rule of law or Justice being served or innocent until proven guilty they want anarchy."

So, the case had nothing to do with political affiliation. Why exactly were people trashing on a party? You're OK with them pouncing and making accusations and assumptions because why? Do you deem the ENTIRE Republican party to be racist, gun toting nut, rich crazy people? I mean, that would be "pretty fucking stupid and laughable", correct?

 

[himkhan]

The never ending list of Victims just keeps on growing.

 

[LikeLinus]

Of course there are shitty Democrats. The Democrats are a standard political party. They have some corruption, some assholes, some bad policy, some fringe wackadoos.

The Republican party is no standard political party anymore though, the majority of the party is simply evil. Majority bad hombres. The fringe wackadoos are the fucking majority base.

There is a huge difference between the parties.

People that try to both sides this are also a part of the problem. That's a bunch of dangerous bullshit

Everyone is the problem. You're left picking between two sides that both have their own agendas. Take money from lobbiest to push laws, vote only to align with their party lines, not their beliefs, make shady business dealings, and so much more. The other side is people like who know they are both full of shit and refuse to pick a side because they know it. It'll never change though unless more people try to change the system and not conform to a title/party.

All of that aside, you would be lying to yourself not to see that your party affiliation is used as a tool here in response to anything that doesn't align to their party. It resorts to name calling, belittling, making allegations, finger point and such. Sorry, I just find it all a bit hypocritical and non-sense.

 

[Pohemi]

Because you edited your post.

And....?

As I pointed out in the other thread. You had members talking about another court case that mentioned - Republics "They don’t care about the rule of law or Justice being served or innocent until proven guilty they want anarchy."

So, the case had nothing to do with political affiliation. Why exactly were people trashing on a party? You're OK with them pouncing and making accusations and assumptions because why? Do you deem the ENTIRE Republican party to be racist, gun toting nut, rich crazy people? I mean, that would be "pretty fucking stupid and laughable", correct?

I assume you're referring to the KR court case and associated thread? Yeah, there was plenty of shit-talking about the obviously biased judge. And about the generalized opinions of republicans and conservatives in relation to guns, self-defense, etc.

Did anyone claim that the idiot judge represented the entire Republican party? No.

Need a new shovel? You're wearing that one down fast.

 

[HomerJS]

Seems par the course for any state under the pressure of prison reform. When chasing numbers is the goal, that means everyone becomes eligible to get lighter sentences.

Once probation ends, that's when the criminal will go hog wild.

This is a New York state matter to deal with.

Unless you are someone who looks like Kalif Browder

 

[LikeLinus]

Did anyone claim that the idiot judge represented the entire Republican party? No.

Your reading comprehension is for shit. Can't say I'm surprised. Stick to the smiley faces like a 5 year old and leave the debate to the adults.

 

[Torn Mind]

Unless you are someone who looks like Kalif Browder

Justo Santos was let go under the technicality that prosecutors did not move fast enough to give him a speedy trial; this was for a murder the murder of Jose Martinez in 1986; a lot of the sleuthing was done by Martinez's daughter, Joselyn.

As far as something more personal, I had to deal with a police drug busting a tenant, and the tenant was black. Ultimately, the final punishment was just probation. He was able to be bailed out of jail after the initial arrest. So, the cops get their job done, the drug tenant, avoids severe punishment, but the landowner's hosue is left damaged and the drug-selling tenant did nothing to restore the damage. This matter occured in MD

 

[Pohemi]

Did anyone claim that the idiot judge represented the entire Republican party? No.

Your reading comprehension is for shit. Can't say I'm surprised. Stick to the smiley faces like a 5 year old and leave the debate to the adults.

That's exactly what you are trying to do here. Blame the entire party and all of it's members for one person's questionable actions.

Your intelligence, honesty, and integrity is for shit, clown. Go fuck yourself.

 

[Vic]

I'm struggling to get why the judge's partisan affiliation is relevant when his actions were universally condemned.
Or is this where we're supposed to make-believe that no Republican judge ever let an affluent defendant off easy?

 

[Pohemi]

I'm struggling to get why the judge's partisan affiliation is relevant when his actions were universally condemned.
Or is this where we're supposed to make-believe that no Republican judge ever let an affluent defendant off easy?

Political accountability is only ever one-sided, from only one of the two major parties. The other side never has anything but rationalization and excuses for justification.

That's why Linus' projection is so hilariously misguided. But I guess we're triggered because we see right through it...or something.