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pauldun170

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That's not what I said they didn't point out. I was saying they never pointed out that it was a democrat. But you go in to the other thread about court cases that have nothing to do with political agenda, but people start trashing on the evil empire. Just point out the obvious hypocrisy in these threads. It's never an intelligent discussion in a lot of cases. It's "Republican's are evil, racist, care nothing but for the rich..." and so on. Yet you have, as some say here, a white privilege case and no one brings up the fact that your party is doing exactly what the other party is doing? It's ignored because one is worse than the other, so it's OK to ignore!

True, you are choosing the lesser of two evils. But that doesn't mean you shouldn't think on your own and just follow a party lines because it's the easier option. The world isn't going to change until voices are heard. That's all. Just ironic and point it out because I knew you'd people would get triggered by it. As my point was proven. Don't talk about our party!!!

I guess since I vote in every election, big or small and have the need to keep up on civics and how the US system of government works for "reasons"....
I kinda felt the need to post one little thing

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pauldun170

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In case anyone wants to pic up the mic I just dropped....

Please recall
It was not the first time a judge had granted Belter probation. Now-retired Judge Sara Sheldon, made a similar warning to Belter in 2019.

If you want to continue to play then please proceed to look up Sara Sheldon
 

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I'm struggling to get why the judge's partisan affiliation is relevant when his actions were universally condemned.
Or is this where we're supposed to make-believe that no Republican judge ever let an affluent defendant off easy?
It has nothing to do the fact it's a Dem/Rep Judge. I was simply showing that AT P&N is VERY quick to sit there and start slinging mud at one party when the political relevance of the case really has nothing to do with anything. I was showing that they do not even bring up political non-sense in this case like in other case threads, and when I point out it's a Dem. Judge, oh no! You don't hold yourselves to the same standards that you are critical of. Most people I've seen here say Reps are racist, only care about the rich and so on, correct? That is used around here ANY time a right leaning topic or something they consider the big bad Reps behind. But in the same breath, they say "oh that case was white privilege and the judge letting him off cause he was rich, it has nothing to do with politics." But they make no comment regarding it being a Dem allowing the very things they argue against! Believe me, I knew I'd catch hell because no one is going to willing admit their bias to their party. Party loyalty is a real thing and just odd. People don't vote and care about the right candidate, they vote for their party.

If you cannot understand the blatant and crystal clear hypocrisy of AT P&N, well, it's just insane. II don't personally care, I just got a good laugh out of seeing it's a Dem protecting a rich little white boy. If a Rep judge did that, oh hell, All of AT P&N would be up in arms and talking all kinds of shit about the other party. :rolleyes:

Agree to disagree, but it's a common theme I see in this forum.
 
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In case anyone wants to pic up the mic I just dropped....
Please recall
If you want to continue to play then please proceed to look up Sara Sheldon
I did point this out in my other thread that was a repost. I mentioned that he had already been convicted and this new probation was the result of him breaking the rules of his probation. It's insanity.
 

KMFJD

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Really? Tell that to the family of Kalief Browder. 3 years @Rikers for the allegation of stealing a backpack.
Kalief Browder, teen who awaited trial for 3 years at Rikers, kills himself | PBS NewsHour


killed her abuser, looking at life in prison
 
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pauldun170

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It has nothing to do the fact it's a Dem/Rep Judge. I was simply showing that AT P&N is VERY quick to sit there and start slinging mud at one party when the political relevance of the case really has nothing to do with anything. I was showing that they do not even bring up political non-sense in this case like in other case threads, and when I point out it's a Dem. Judge, oh no! You don't hold yourselves to the same standards that you are critical of. Most people I've seen here say Reps are racist, only care about the rich and so on, correct? That is used around here ANY time a right leaning topic or something they consider the big bad Reps behind. But in the same breath, they say "oh that case was white privilege and the judge letting him off cause he was rich, it has nothing to do with politics." But they make no comment regarding it being a Dem allowing the very things they argue against! Believe me, I knew I'd catch hell because no one is going to willing admit their bias to their party. Party loyalty is a real thing and just odd. People don't vote and care about the right candidate, they vote for their party.

If you cannot understand the blatant and crystal clear hypocrisy of AT P&N, well, it's just insane. II don't personally care, I just got a good laugh out of seeing it's a Dem protecting a rich little white boy. If a Rep judge did that, oh hell, All of AT P&N would be up in arms and talking all kinds of shit about the other party. :rolleyes:

Agree to disagree, but it's a common theme I see in this forum.

You posted a thread about a topic that is a week old (and already discussed in another thread) in an attempt to both sides or to gotcha using a flawed or misguided premise?
Now you are taking the standard "Everyone in P&E is mean and all circle jerky and I'm going to stick with OT so I can complain about P&E!!!" route because ?

You always have the option of growing a pair and pull out the "I'm an independent\I didn't vote for Trump\I don't pay attention to the details but I have an opinion" schtick.
Every once in awhile hop in a thread and insert a "whatabout" posts.
It's a more discrete way of satisfying your apparent need to "own the libs\get your stroke on by being dropping a sweet both sides argument" on a regular basis.

There will be plenty of opportunities where you can try and both sides stuff.
You just picked a poor example and tried to do it a week late.

Maybe try better news sources and check them regularly?
I think there is a zoom class on it later this week. Forget which member is hosting it
 
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Vic

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It has nothing to do the fact it's a Dem/Rep Judge. I was simply showing that AT P&N is VERY quick to sit there and start slinging mud at one party when the political relevance of the case really has nothing to do with anything. I was showing that they do not even bring up political non-sense in this case like in other case threads, and when I point out it's a Dem. Judge, oh no! You don't hold yourselves to the same standards that you are critical of. Most people I've seen here say Reps are racist, only care about the rich and so on, correct? That is used around here ANY time a right leaning topic or something they consider the big bad Reps behind. But in the same breath, they say "oh that case was white privilege and the judge letting him off cause he was rich, it has nothing to do with politics." But they make no comment regarding it being a Dem allowing the very things they argue against! Believe me, I knew I'd catch hell because no one is going to willing admit their bias to their party. Party loyalty is a real thing and just odd. People don't vote and care about the right candidate, they vote for their party.

If you cannot understand the blatant and crystal clear hypocrisy of AT P&N, well, it's just insane. II don't personally care, I just got a good laugh out of seeing it's a Dem protecting a rich little white boy. If a Rep judge did that, oh hell, All of AT P&N would be up in arms and talking all kinds of shit about the other party. :rolleyes:

Agree to disagree, but it's a common theme I see in this forum.

Complaining about partisanship while being the only person to bring up party is the thread is.. just stupid.
Especially when all you're trying to do here is assign the bad actions of one person to every single person in the same party. Which is very partisan. Just like complaining about the partisan bent of this forum while ignoring that there a number of Republican posters here too, and they tend to be mean and nasty too. Also very partisan.
I'm no fan of the 2 party system, but the Dems track record for holding their own accountable seems to be a lot better than the GOP's. At least they try and fail. GOP doesn't even try at all, unless it's Liz Cheney who dared say something bad about Trump.
 
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Justo Santos was let go under the technicality that prosecutors did not move fast enough to give him a speedy trial; this was for a murder the murder of Jose Martinez in 1986; a lot of the sleuthing was done by Martinez's daughter, Joselyn.

As far as something more personal, I had to deal with a police drug busting a tenant, and the tenant was black. Ultimately, the final punishment was just probation. He was able to be bailed out of jail after the initial arrest. So, the cops get their job done, the drug tenant, avoids severe punishment, but the landowner's hosue is left damaged and the drug-selling tenant did nothing to restore the damage. This matter occured in MD
It's the tenant's responsibility to restore the damage, is that what you're saying here?
 

Vic

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Justo Santos was let go under the technicality that prosecutors did not move fast enough to give him a speedy trial; this was for a murder the murder of Jose Martinez in 1986; a lot of the sleuthing was done by Martinez's daughter, Joselyn.

As far as something more personal, I had to deal with a police drug busting a tenant, and the tenant was black. Ultimately, the final punishment was just probation. He was able to be bailed out of jail after the initial arrest. So, the cops get their job done, the drug tenant, avoids severe punishment, but the landowner's hosue is left damaged and the drug-selling tenant did nothing to restore the damage. This matter occured in MD

The drug war failed a long time ago, no amount of sentencing ever solved the problem, the tenant's skin color is irrelevant (white people do drugs too), and the landlord has more potential recourse with the tenant out of jail than in it (even if still slim). Otherwise, there's the security deposit, the cost of repairs can be written off, and property has almost certainly been an overall good investment for the landlord despite this temporary setback.

That said, renting out to a dimebagging tenant who leaves a bad clean out is in no way comparable to the crimes committed in the OP. Not even close.
 
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There was another case like this a few years back that got a lot more national attention than this ones seems to be getting. There were widespread calls to remove or recall the judge involved, but I don't know if anything ever happened.
 

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Yes. The Stanford swimmer case. The judge was recalled 6 months later or so.

This judge apparently is retiring in a month or so so really nothing can be done.
 
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MrSquished

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Everyone is the problem. You're left picking between two sides that both have their own agendas. Take money from lobbiest to push laws, vote only to align with their party lines, not their beliefs, make shady business dealings, and so much more. The other side is people like who know they are both full of shit and refuse to pick a side because they know it. It'll never change though unless more people try to change the system and not conform to a title/party.

All of that aside, you would be lying to yourself not to see that your party affiliation is used as a tool here in response to anything that doesn't align to their party. It resorts to name calling, belittling, making allegations, finger point and such. Sorry, I just find it all a bit hypocritical and non-sense.

Your both sides are the same act is so tired and sad. At best you are extremely intellectually lazy, but really you are either intellectually delusional or intellectually dishonest. Which makes you just about as bad as the nuttiest Trumper.

As I stated the Dems have their share of corruption and some loons and some bad policy, but only one party is a cult of Trump, a guy who has literally zero principles, and who wants to overthrow democracy, and a large part of the party is good with that AND WOULD VOTE FOR HIM AGAIN. Only one party loved, and loves, a guy because he says shit like Mexicans are mostly rapists and criminals. Only one party has a huge base turned on by racist cat calls and wants to unteach the reality of our history. Only one party has a base that supports an insurrection. The list is long, but I gave a few key points. As far as pragmatic policy, the majority of the Republican party is against infrastructure - fundamental needs for our nation to compete, create jobs and stay current. Not even half the R senators voted yes and barely any R house members voted yes.

Not one R thinks we should let Medicare negotiate drug prices, or even any drug prices, while almost all Dems do. Not one R thinks we should invest in clean energy with a focus on jobs here, but most Dems do. Not one R thinks Medicare should cover hearing aids or vision, most Dems do, not one R thinks universal pre-k is good for our children and families, most Dems do, not one R thinks the government should encourage private industry to build more housing including affordable housing, one of the biggest crisis we face today, most Dems do. Some of our biggest issues stem from not enough housing. These are are super common sense issues.

You created a thread thinking you are so elevated above the fray, meanwhile that Judge had already been condemned by everyone here and nobody gives two shits what his party affiliation was. Your thread backfired on you, and now you are spreading your FUD. You are truly either clueless at best, but it seems most likely just delusional or dishonest, and whichever of the three, you are a big big part of this country's issues.
 

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Your both sides are the same act is so tired and sad. At best you are extremely intellectually lazy, but really you are either intellectually delusional or intellectually dishonest. Which makes you just about as bad as the nuttiest Trumper.

As I stated the Dems have their share of corruption and some loons and some bad policy, but only one party is a cult of Trump, a guy who has literally zero principles, and who wants to overthrow democracy, and a large part of the party is good with that AND WOULD VOTE FOR HIM AGAIN. Only one party loved, and loves, a guy because he says shit like Mexicans are mostly rapists and criminals. Only one party has a huge base turned on by racist cat calls and wants to unteach the reality of our history. Only one party has a base that supports an insurrection. The list is long, but I gave a few key points. As far as pragmatic policy, the majority of the Republican party is against infrastructure - fundamental needs for our nation to compete, create jobs and stay current. Not even half the R senators voted yes and barely any R house members voted yes.

Not one R thinks we should let Medicare negotiate drug prices, or even any drug prices, while almost all Dems do. Not one R thinks we should invest in clean energy with a focus on jobs here, but most Dems do. Not one R thinks Medicare should cover hearing aids or vision, most Dems do, not one R thinks universal pre-k is good for our children and families, most Dems do, not one R thinks the government should encourage private industry to build more housing including affordable housing, one of the biggest crisis we face today, most Dems do. Some of our biggest issues stem from not enough housing. These are are super common sense issues.

You created a thread thinking you are so elevated above the fray, meanwhile that Judge had already been condemned by everyone here and nobody gives two shits what his party affiliation was. Your thread backfired on you, and now you are spreading your FUD. You are truly either clueless at best, but it seems most likely just delusional or dishonest, and whichever of the three, you are a big big part of this country's issues.
Yawn. The thread had nothing to do with elevating anyone above the fray. I swear to god, some of you all have serious issues with reading comprehension. Last time I'm going to say it. I only posted it because it's funny there's no talk of it being a Dem, but you look at other court cases and you have idiots spouting anti-party rhetoric left and right. Objectively, looking at it from an outside perspective, this forum is ridiculous. There' a good reason why people in ATOT make fun of this place. I see it now. You twist everything to fit your agenda. Telling me why I made the thread and that I did it as some sort of ego boost or whatever non-sense you tell yourself to sleep better at night.

Yep, anyone who doesn't think like the rest of the sheep is the countries biggest problem. Your thinking is the only right way and anyone else who thinks different, is automatically the "problem". Do you actually read what you write? Sorry my opinion of the state of our political landscape isn't black and white and I see the whole system is pretty much fucked. But hey, I'll enjoy my ignorance and continue with life and believe me, some nerds on a forum are going to bother me with their bullying tactics and trying to denounce anything not aligned with their agenda. Because, thinking differently is wrong!

Speaking of intellectually lazy. Do you honestly think that all Republican's are truly against infrastructure? Or have you ever considered they are voting along the party line? You know, same thing the Dems do? Here is a good read.

Why Biden succeeded on infrastructure (and Trump didn't) (msnbc.com)

So if Republican's were SOOOO against Infrastructure, then exactly why were they trying to pass one? Now the link will tell you how Trump derailed the bill. But also make note of:

Two years later, the Republican settled on a different kind of idea: If he couldn't have an infrastructure deal, then Biden shouldn't get one, either.
Indeed, Politico reported months ago that the former president was determined to "sabotage" the entire process: "Trump is trying to ensure that his successor, Joe Biden, suffers the indignity of the 'infrastructure week' jokes as well."

It's the same thing that Dems do. They vote on party lines and not always what is best for the people. It's a simple fact. The system is flawed. Just my humble opinion.

"nobody gives two shits what his party affiliation was." Exactly my point. They don't care about the Party affiliation in this case, but why do they care in other cases? I've seen it brought up, but no one is calling them names and telling them they are the problem. Because I'm not the mindless sheep just saying "you're right!". But, whatever buddy. :beercheers:
 

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Yawn. The thread had nothing to do with elevating anyone above the fray. I swear to god, some of you all have serious issues with reading comprehension. Last time I'm going to say it. I only posted it because it's funny there's no talk of it being a Dem, but you look at other court cases and you have idiots spouting anti-party rhetoric left and right. Objectively, looking at it from an outside perspective, this forum is ridiculous. There' a good reason why people in ATOT make fun of this place. I see it now. You twist everything to fit your agenda. Telling me why I made the thread and that I did it as some sort of ego boost or whatever non-sense you tell yourself to sleep better at night.

Yep, anyone who doesn't think like the rest of the sheep is the countries biggest problem. Your thinking is the only right way and anyone else who thinks different, is automatically the "problem". Do you actually read what you write? Sorry my opinion of the state of our political landscape isn't black and white and I see the whole system is pretty much fucked. But hey, I'll enjoy my ignorance and continue with life and believe me, some nerds on a forum are going to bother me with their bullying tactics and trying to denounce anything not aligned with their agenda. Because, thinking differently is wrong!

Speaking of intellectually lazy. Do you honestly think that all Republican's are truly against infrastructure? Or have you ever considered they are voting along the party line? You know, same thing the Dems do? Here is a good read.

Why Biden succeeded on infrastructure (and Trump didn't) (msnbc.com)

So if Republican's were SOOOO against Infrastructure, then exactly why were they trying to pass one? Now the link will tell you how Trump derailed the bill. But also make note of:

Two years later, the Republican settled on a different kind of idea: If he couldn't have an infrastructure deal, then Biden shouldn't get one, either.
Indeed, Politico reported months ago that the former president was determined to "sabotage" the entire process: "Trump is trying to ensure that his successor, Joe Biden, suffers the indignity of the 'infrastructure week' jokes as well."

It's the same thing that Dems do. They vote on party lines and not always what is best for the people. It's a simple fact. The system is flawed. Just my humble opinion.

"nobody gives two shits what his party affiliation was." Exactly my point. They don't care about the Party affiliation in this case, but why do they care in other cases? I've seen it brought up, but no one is calling them names and telling them they are the problem. Because I'm not the mindless sheep just saying "you're right!". But, whatever buddy. :beercheers:

I appreciate how you gloss over the whole trying to overthrow democracy thing, or everything else. But keep showing what a dishonest person you are. So you focus on infrastructure.

As far as the infrastructure nonsense you are spouting, please show me where the modern Democratic party has been against an infrastructure bill just to be against an R president for the sake of politics.

I await your evidence. Also try to get to the whole overthrowing democracy thing, which the Republicans have shown they are setting the stage for. I mean keep ignoring that too, you look as dishonest as you are, but try at least. Make an effort.
 
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I appreciate how you gloss over the whole trying to overthrow democracy thing, or everything else. But keep showing what a dishonest person you are. So you focus on infrastructure.

As far as the infrastructure nonsense you are spouting, please show me where the modern Democratic party has been against an infrastructure bill just to be against an R president for the sake of politics.

I await your evidence. Also try to get to the whole overthrowing democracy thing, which the Republicans have shown they are setting the stage for. I mean keep ignoring that too, you look as dishonest as you are, but try at least. Make an effort.
Sure, right after you show me evidence that "Not one R thinks we should let Medicare negotiate drug prices" or "Not one R thinks Medicare should cover hearing aids or vision,"

I was completely unaware that you know the actual personal opinion of every Republican had their inner most personal thoughts. Feel free to show me where each Rep voiced that they do not want

Plus, on the whole infrastructure thing, it's well known there have been other attempts and you sit there and say the Reps never wanted one. But if you are really suggesting that Dems do not currently or have not voted on party lines against a Rep bill or law, you're a way bigger moron than I gave you credit for. You can't understand that I was making a point. You want to stick to singular facts on one subject that has nothing to do with what is actually happening or what I originally intended to point out. It's impossible to get someone to understand when their basic lack of a intelligence to stick on topic is all over the place. Jeeze.

I didn't gloss over anything about overthrow democracy. My point was never that either party has done anything wrong. You keep moving the goal post (no surprise) on what my post was originally talking about. It's not about how or what they vote about. I'm not talking about the radicals who do things evil in using the name of either party. It was about the people of P&N.
 
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You want to stick to singular facts on one subject that has nothing to do with what is actually happening or what I originally intended to point out. It's impossible to get someone to understand when their basic lack of a intelligence to stick on topic is all over the place. Jeeze.

I didn't gloss over anything about overthrow democracy. My point was never that either party has done anything wrong. You keep moving the goal post (no surprise) on what my post was originally talking about. It's not about how or what they vote about. I'm not talking about the radicals who do things evil in using the name of either party. It was about the people of P&N.
Projection, all the way down. You're a #bothsides, mealy-mouthed bitch.
 
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Projection, all the way down. You're a #bothsides, mealy-mouthed bitch.
You're dense. I'm not #bothsides, I'm #neitherside, I dislike them both. At least use the little bit of brain you have left to get it right. You're so easily triggered, buddy. It's fairly hilarious you are so angry over someone posting an opinion. Seem like the type of guy that goes home and kicks his dog and such.
 
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You're dense. I'm not #bothsides, I'm #neitherside, I dislike them both. At least use the little bit of brain you have left to get it right. You're so easily triggered, buddy. It's fairly hilarious you are so angry over someone posting an opinion. Seem like the type of guy that goes home and kicks his dog and such.
I'm not angry, I just don't suffer fools to spew bullshit. But keep projecting your insecurities on me, I could care less. I pity any dog you own.
 
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Sure, right after you show me evidence that "Not one R thinks we should let Medicare negotiate drug prices" or "Not one R thinks Medicare should cover hearing aids or vision,"

I was completely unaware that you know the actual personal opinion of every Republican had their inner most personal thoughts. Feel free to show me where each Rep voiced that they do not want

Plus, on the whole infrastructure thing, it's well known there have been other attempts and you sit there and say the Reps never wanted one. But if you are really suggesting that Dems do not currently or have not voted on party lines against a Rep bill or law, you're a way bigger moron than I gave you credit for. You can't understand that I was making a point. You want to stick to singular facts on one subject that has nothing to do with what is actually happening or what I originally intended to point out. It's impossible to get someone to understand when their basic lack of a intelligence to stick on topic is all over the place. Jeeze.

I didn't gloss over anything about overthrow democracy. My point was never that either party has done anything wrong. You keep moving the goal post (no surprise) on what my post was originally talking about. It's not about how or what they vote about. I'm not talking about the radicals who do things evil in using the name of either party. It was about the people of P&N.

No Republican has come out supporting anything in the Build Back Better plan, including Medicare negotiating drug prices. Their line is often it will impede drug R&D. A crock of shit. The R's have previously blocked a bill from coming to a vote by the Dems that would have allowed Medicare to negotiate drug prices in previous administrations. Sure some say they think drug prices are high and something should be done, but I haven't seen any actual action from them. So it's all a bunch of bullshit until they actually do something. So far they've done nothing and blocked a bill that would have done something.

The dems passed the bill in 2019: https://www.washingtonpost.com/us-p...prescription-drug-price-bill-election-marker/

The Republicans blocked it. There's your proof.

Please show me where Dems have said they are voting no on infrastructure to hurt an R president. Good fucking luck you liar.

Also you have made general claims that both sides are the same, corrupt, etc...yet one party would vote for a guy that tried to overthrow democracy and that same party is putting into place methods to overthrow future elections. They aren't even remotely the same.
 

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Bothsidesing is not non-partisan. Quite the opposite, apologizing for one side's actions by pointing to the other side's actions is one of the most extreme forms of rhetorical partisanship.
It's also bad logic. I get it that "you're just as bad!" sounds like good logic, but only if you don't mind calling yourself bad in public.
 

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It has nothing to do the fact it's a Dem/Rep Judge. I was simply showing that AT P&N is VERY quick to sit there and start slinging mud at one party when the political relevance of the case really has nothing to do with anything. I was showing that they do not even bring up political non-sense in this case like in other case threads, and when I point out it's a Dem. Judge, oh no! You don't hold yourselves to the same standards that you are critical of. Most people I've seen here say Reps are racist, only care about the rich and so on, correct? That is used around here ANY time a right leaning topic or something they consider the big bad Reps behind. But in the same breath, they say "oh that case was white privilege and the judge letting him off cause he was rich, it has nothing to do with politics." But they make no comment regarding it being a Dem allowing the very things they argue against! Believe me, I knew I'd catch hell because no one is going to willing admit their bias to their party. Party loyalty is a real thing and just odd. People don't vote and care about the right candidate, they vote for their party.

If you cannot understand the blatant and crystal clear hypocrisy of AT P&N, well, it's just insane. II don't personally care, I just got a good laugh out of seeing it's a Dem protecting a rich little white boy. If a Rep judge did that, oh hell, All of AT P&N would be up in arms and talking all kinds of shit about the other party. :rolleyes:

Agree to disagree, but it's a common theme I see in this forum.

I'm not American so I'll agree with you that both parties suck but here's the deal, that I know and you apparently known nothing about, one party are liberals and the other fascists.

And as a German I really want fascists to get ... abolished or exterminated. There is no use for a fascist in today's world and I will not take pity of one.
 

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Bothsidesing is not non-partisan. Quite the opposite, apologizing for one side's actions by pointing to the other side's actions is one of the most extreme forms of rhetorical partisanship.
It's also bad logic. I get it that "you're just as bad!" sounds like good logic, but only if you don't mind calling yourself bad in public.
The funny thing is when Trump was talking about infrastructure, the Dems were like, Let's Do it! The complete opposite of Linus's misinformation.

I have no recollection of Dems opposing infrastructure to be partisan as Linus claims. In fact on NPR the other day they had Paul Ryan on to talk about the infrastructure bill, and he admitted it's not really been a partisan issue in any recent memory, UNTIL NOW! (By his party) it's pretty much been very bi partisan for some decades now.

Linus is just full of shit.
 

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The funny thing is when Trump was talking about infrastructure, the Dems were like, Let's Do it! The complete opposite of Linus's misinformation.

I have no recollection of Dems opposing infrastructure to be partisan as Linus claims. In fact on NPR the other day they had Paul Ryan on to talk about the infrastructure bill, and he admitted it's not really been a partisan issue in any recent memory, UNTIL NOW! (By his party) it's pretty much been very bi partisan for some decades now.

Linus is just full of shit.
What in the absolute fuck are you talking about? I didn't make up anything or provide misinformation. Are you seriously unable to read the link I provided?

Why Biden succeeded on infrastructure (and Trump didn't) (msnbc.com)

I didn't make that up. Please do not EVER procreate.
 
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