"Morally" justified murder?

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dawp

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sex slavery is rape. Very different from slave labor.

Not to the slave owner it isn't. After all it's just his property to do as he pleases. slaves have no rights.

and you never answered weather you would like to be a slave yourself, since it OK according to your bible.

and a slave could be prostitute working in a brothel since it slave labor.
 
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Shingi

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SCREW MORALITY AND SCREW RIGHTS AND CONSTITUTIONS. Since when does any of those crap apply when you are a slave. Remember you are a slave. Nothing applies to you except yourself. So grow some balls and murder someone, remember you're a slave, you're already the worst of the worst.

The question really should be worded like the following.

1 - What should slaves do? and If you were a slave what should you do?
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2 - What one would actually do if one was a slave.

I say should and would are two different things. I put myself in the slaves shoes and the SO shoes as well.

If you were a slave what should and would you do. If you were a SO, what should and would you do?

Classic arguement of heaven and hell. If I stuck in hell, hell I do what I can to enjoy my life. And Hell, If I'm in heaven I would beat on hell. The trick kids is to think only enough and not too much, otherwise you are no longer the genius and you became the idiot that thought too much and didn't get anything done.
 
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sao123

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Not to the slave owner it isn't. After all it's just his property to do as he pleases. slaves have no rights.

and you never answered weather you would like to be a slave yourself, since it OK according to your bible.

and a slave could be prostitute working in a brothel since it slave labor.


whether I would willingly be one myself is hardly a good litmus test for morality. a better question is would i stand by and watch or would i assist.

If i came upon a man raping a woman, of course I would assist her. if i came upon a master beating his slave, im not sure i would interfere.

im not saying slaves should accept slavery and not fight for their freedom, BUT i do not believe we should go all vietnam on masters who keep them.

the world is a place of rigid social structure, rich and poor, master and slave, landowner and peasant, king and noble. This progressive liberalism bullshit of america has pussified this entire country, eventually we might learn that peace is an impossible goal, and that conflict is the natual way of this world.

We claim to be civilized, but all we are is weak.
 

wwswimming

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i thought this thread might be about Tiger Woods' wife.

doing the murdering, that is.

i can just see all the other pro golfers at Tiger's funeral.

trying not to smile.
 

surfsatwerk

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whether I would willingly be one myself is hardly a good litmus test for morality. a better question is would i stand by and watch or would i assist.

If i came upon a man raping a woman, of course I would assist her. if i came upon a master beating his slave, im not sure i would interfere.

im not saying slaves should accept slavery and not fight for their freedom, BUT i do not believe we should go all vietnam on masters who keep them.

the world is a place of rigid social structure, rich and poor, master and slave, landowner and peasant, king and noble. This progressive liberalism bullshit of america has pussified this entire country, eventually we might learn that peace is an impossible goal, and that conflict is the natual way of this world.

We claim to be civilized, but all we are is weak.

What kind of crack did your mother smoke when she was pregnant with you? It must have been some crazy shit.
 

BoomerD

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Fuck that, I ain't picking cotton.

I used to work for a guy who had a bumper sticker that said:

"If I knew then what I know now, I'd have picked my own dammed cotton!"

Needless to say, he didn't drive his truck into some areas...:p





As for "morally justifiable," that all depends on your personal morals.

IMO, morals are a set of rules established by someone else to control behavior. I find personal ethics to be a better defining characteristic.
 

alphatarget1

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Is it justifiable to kill a prosecutor who (knowingly) wrongfully convicted an innocent person to death for crimes they didn't commit?
 

BudAshes

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whether I would willingly be one myself is hardly a good litmus test for morality. a better question is would i stand by and watch or would i assist.

If i came upon a man raping a woman, of course I would assist her. if i came upon a master beating his slave, im not sure i would interfere.

im not saying slaves should accept slavery and not fight for their freedom, BUT i do not believe we should go all vietnam on masters who keep them.

the world is a place of rigid social structure, rich and poor, master and slave, landowner and peasant, king and noble. This progressive liberalism bullshit of america has pussified this entire country, eventually we might learn that peace is an impossible goal, and that conflict is the natual way of this world.

We claim to be civilized, but all we are is weak.

Taking away someones freedom for no reason other than who their parents were or the color of their skin is utterly immoral. The idea that you think we were stronger with slaves and kings and nobles is really pathetic. You are so utterly wrong, I can't even begin to see your point of view. Maybe you went off your meds or something.
 
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Interesting that a number of American have said "no", yet they think it's a-ok to kill brown people overseas "for freedom". Very interesting indeed.
 

sao123

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Taking away someones freedom for no reason other than who their parents were or the color of their skin is utterly immoral. The idea that you think we were stronger with slaves and kings and nobles is really pathetic. You are so utterly wrong, I can't even begin to see your point of view. Maybe you went off your meds or something.


good thing you actually read all my posts... amybe you would see that I said i do not support slavery based on race/color.
 

Poulsonator

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I tend to think higher level orchestrators should have less severe punishment than the people who did the act.

Ex. Charles Manson and mob bosses should not be charged with the same level of crime they influenced people to perform.

Also... freedom is life. So if someone takes your freedom, they are also taking your life. So yes, I believe slaves can kill their owners.

I agree 100% with your last sentence. Slavery is an atrocity and I wouldn't look negatively upon any slave killing their owner. I cannot imagine having to go through something like that.

As for the rest of your quote, I couldn't disagree more. Are you telling me Adolf Hitler, if he would have lived to face a trial, should have been treated different from someone who actually pulled a trigger? Charles Manson is a psychopath who was smart enough to prey on the weak minded. He absolutely should be charged with the same level of crime and more. Actually, I think he should have been executed a long time ago.