"Morally" justified murder?

[ShawnD1]

Morality questions:

1) Is a slave morally justified in killing his owner?

2) Is a slave morally justified in killing an employee of the government whose job it is to enforce his slavery, e.g. police, army, etc?

3) Is a slave morally justified in killing someone who actively works to keep him in slavery, e.g. a politician?

Yes, yes, and yes.

Reword the question in a more historical context and see what the answer is.
If your country is occupied by another country (ie occupied France during WW2), is it ok to shoot foreign soldiers? Of course it is. Is it ok to shoot the commanders who tell those soldiers what to do? Absolutely. Is it ok to shoot the politician who told them to invade your country? Well the US spent several years trying to kill several of those people (Hitler/Mussolini/Hirohito) so that too would be a yes.

 

[MagnusTheBrewer]

Morals are not created, specified or, enabled by Federal/State law. Real people are tasked with deciding for themselves if their action or inaction is moral. We may condemn others for their choices but, pointing at a law as "proof" of morality or lack thereof, is lame at best and itself morally reprehensible.

 

[waggy]

No. i see nothing wrong with slavery, provided it is not based on race or gender discrimination.
only in US history with the mistreatment of black is slavery such an abomination.

wow. so much ignorance in one beliefe...

 

[GoPackGo]

Things in the Bill of Rights in the Constitution are there because of how the British treated the Colonists.

You can "morally" kill to protect yourself, your family, your fellow man, and your country...that means someone as trying to kill or destroy one of you first.

 

[BurnItDwn]

My opinions are very opinionated and not thought out at all, simply impulse answers.

1) Is a slave morally justified in killing his owner?

Yes, 100% of the time IMO.

2) Is a slave morally justified in killing an employee of the government whose job it is to enforce his slavery, e.g. police, army, etc?

If a slave needs to kill somebody who's job includes oppressing slaves, in order to guarantee rights/freedoms equal to those who are not slaves, then yes, it is morally justified.
Note: If there is a government employee who refuses to enforce such laws, and is working towards changing them, then that it would be immoral for the slave to kill them.

3) Is a slave morally justified in killing someone who actively works to keep him in slavery, e.g. a politician?
Yes. Golden rule says treat others the way you want to be treated. If you treat others as if they are not humans, then ending your humanity is not immoral.

 

[kalrith]

Not that this means much to a lot of you, but the Bible says that slaves should submit to and do a good job for their masters even if they're very harsh. The one exception in the Bible's call for submission is if a master orders his slave to do something that goes against the Bible's teachings.

 

[sao123]

Are you kidding me? Do you even understand what slavery is, regardless of the conditions for the enslaved?

So you are in favor of taking ordinary people, who have done nothing wrong, and turning them into slaves, just so long as you are an equal opportunity slave owner?

Wow.

The bible is my moral code.
the bible does not condemn slavery, it provides instructions on how it is to be done properly and humanely.

I do not have a problem with slavery.

 

[waggy]

The bible is my moral code.
the bible does not condemn slavery, it provides instructions on how it is to be done properly and humanely.

I do not have a problem with slavery.

and there is proof that the bible is outdated.

Sad part is you can't think for yourself and reley on something written over 2000 years ago.

sad really.

 

[Gooberlx2]

The bible is my moral code.
the bible does not condemn slavery, it provides instructions on how it is to be done properly and humanely.

I do not have a problem with slavery.

:\ Disgusting.

Plenty of people in this world use the Bible as their moral guide. However, they most often also supplement that guide with common sense and decency. You, apparently are not one of those people.

 

[techs]

The bible is my moral code.
the bible does not condemn slavery, it provides instructions on how it is to be done properly and humanely.

I do not have a problem with slavery.

Does the bible endorse slavery? I don't think so. So it's instructions on how it is to be done properly and humanely are merely a guide to what to do in the event there is slavery.

 

[Kirby]

The bible is my moral code.
the bible does not condemn slavery, it provides instructions on how it is to be done properly and humanely.

I do not have a problem with slavery.

slavery + religion = ultimate troll

congrats, i salute you on a successful attempt

 

[AreaCode707]

Yes. Right to life, LIBERTY and the pursuit of happiness. I believe that the statement made in the constitution was drawn from a moral basis, and that fighting for that right for yourself or for others is, at its core, a moral fight.

Now, if you resort to killing rather than more peaceable alternative means then I think you may lose the moral high ground. For that reason I would likely not choose to-the-death means of fighting for that right. However, I think there are times and places where the only alternative to fight for liberty can be a deadly one.

For example, do I think it is morally right for a child in the Congo, being forceably drafted into a raiding army, to resist through fighting and even killing to avoid that type of enslavement.

 

[AreaCode707]

Double post

 

[Kadarin]

Yesterday was the 150th anniversary of the execution of John Brown.

"John Brown's raid on Harpers Ferry was an attempt by white abolitionist John Brown to start an armed slave revolt by seizing a United States Arsenal at Harpers Ferry in Virginia in 1859. Brown's raid was defeated by a detachment of U.S. Marines led by Col. Robert E. Lee"


Morality questions:

1) Is a slave morally justified in killing his owner?

2) Is a slave morally justified in killing an employee of the government whose job it is to enforce his slavery, e.g. police, army, etc?

3) Is a slave morally justified in killing someone who actively works to keep him in slavery, e.g. a politician?

I'm going to go with the DO YOUR OWN GODDAMNED HOMEWORK point of view here.

However, morality is relative, is largely shaped by the society in which we live, and it changes over time. Another example outside of slavery: The custom of dueling.

 

[BrownTown]

Obviously no to all three. It is morally justifiable to run away, but not to kill in the process.

 

[ScottyB]

I don't know about being "morally justified," but I thinking killing your owner as a slave is the correct course of action.

 

[Fox5]

Yes if it's one of those motherf****** from the batman comics. Seriously, almost every villain is a mass murderer who escapes on a regular basis to kill hundreds, and threatening to kill even more. Even if Gotham didn't have the death penalty, you'd think a prison guard or cop would take matters into his own hands.

 

[IronWing]

I'm going to go with the DO YOUR OWN GODDAMNED HOMEWORK point of view here.

However, morality is relative, is largely shaped by the society in which we live, and it changes over time. Another example outside of slavery: The custom of dueling.

Dueling is a totally awesome pastime that should be brought back. It offers society a very cheap, easy to implement method of ridding itself of arrogant, hotheaded, violent dicksmacks. The participants pay for their own executions. What's not to like?

 

[theflyingpig]

1) No.
2) No.
3) No.

IMO, killing a person can only ever be justified if it is in direct defense of yourself or another person, or if it's been sanctioned by the law as punishment for a specific crime, or if it's sanctioned as part of one's duty to defend the country.

lol. Pathetic. Your views on killing truly show just how weak minded and naive you are. I suggest you educate your self on the ways of the world. Travel, and see what others have to endure, and maybe then, you will open your eyes to the truth. Everyone knows this.

 

[waggy]

Yes if it's one of those motherf****** from the batman comics. Seriously, almost every villain is a mass murderer who escapes on a regular basis to kill hundreds, and threatening to kill even more. Even if Gotham didn't have the death penalty, you'd think a prison guard or cop would take matters into his own hands.

lol no shit. a guy goes and kills thousands of innocent people. yet not one fricken officer will put a bullet in his head? what ab out having superman throw h im into the sun? nobody owuld know..or care.

ok ok..maybe nto superman. he is a damn boy scout. how about batman? comon really just start killing the people that kill innocent people.

 

[dawp]

The bible is my moral code.
the bible does not condemn slavery, it provides instructions on how it is to be done properly and humanely.

I do not have a problem with slavery.

so you would have no problem when I come into your house and take you against your will to be my slave, subject to my every whim, which might include torturing to death, after all your would be my property and not a person.

also, Do you think it was ok what happened to Jaycee Dugard? after all she was basically his sex slave for 18 years.

 

[zerocool84]

Religions have condoned murder for thousands of years. As long as it's someone from another religion it's morally acceptable.

 

[sao123]

so you would have no problem when I come into your house and take you against your will to be my slave, subject to my every whim, which might include torturing to death, after all your would be my property and not a person.

also, Do you think it was ok what happened to Jaycee Dugard? after all she was basically his sex slave for 18 years.

sex slavery is rape. Very different from slave labor.

 

[totalnoob]

1. yes
2. no
3. yes

 

[amdhunter]

Yes.
Yes.
Yes.