Monoprice RedMere HDMI cables general discussion

[Chapbass]

Not using any equalizers, and I've used a standard 50ft HDMI cable without any issues. Went to HDMI over ethernet as it is easier to route around the room. If I were to drop some money on a decent converter I wouldn't have the problem, but seeing as I did this a few months ago, I was waiting for the redmere cables to come out.

edit: And btw, when I was asking how long they could get, I was asking specifically about the ultra thins (only up to 15ft is posted on the website atm).

 

[Crow550]

Not using any equalizers, and I've used a standard 50ft HDMI cable without any issues. Went to HDMI over ethernet as it is easier to route around the room. If I were to drop some money on a decent converter I wouldn't have the problem, but seeing as I did this a few months ago, I was waiting for the redmere cables to come out.

edit: And btw, when I was asking how long they could get, I was asking specifically about the ultra thins (only up to 15ft is posted on the website atm).

Yeah it may work but not at 1080P. After 25ft for regular HDMI needs a signal boost for it to continue to send at full speed. Unless it's RedMere.

They claim to go up to 100ft maybe even longer. The Ultra thins? Well you will have to ask Monoprice or maybe they will pop in and respond here. Keep in mind the Slim ones are still slimmer than regular.

 

[Drako]

Yeah it may work but not at 1080P. After 25ft for regular HDMI needs a signal boost for it to continue to send at full speed. Unless it's RedMere.

They claim to go up to 100ft maybe even longer. The Ultra thins? Well you will have to ask Monoprice or maybe they will pop in and respond here. Keep in mind the Slim ones are still slimmer than regular.

So full of fail, it hurts.

I've got regular 10m cables that run 1080p just fine.

 

[Chapbass]

Yeah it may work but not at 1080P. After 25ft for regular HDMI needs a signal boost for it to continue to send at full speed. Unless it's RedMere.

They claim to go up to 100ft maybe even longer. The Ultra thins? Well you will have to ask Monoprice or maybe they will pop in and respond here. Keep in mind the Slim ones are still slimmer than regular.

Please crow, it most certainly was 1080p. Spout specifications all you want, but there have been MANY people who have gone well over 25ft at 1080p, myself included.


Either way, that is NOT what this thread is about. I didn't post to get into an argument about the HDMI specification, I asked a simple question. If you don't have an answer thats fine, I was just seeing if anyone had any experience with both the thin and ultra thin line of RedMere cables.

 

[Crow550]

So full of fail, it hurts.

I've got regular 10m cables that run 1080p just fine.

Please crow, it most certainly was 1080p. Spout specifications all you want, but there have been MANY people who have gone well over 25ft at 1080p, myself included.


Either way, that is NOT what this thread is about. I didn't post to get into an argument about the HDMI specification, I asked a simple question. If you don't have an answer thats fine, I was just seeing if anyone had any experience with both the thin and ultra thin line of RedMere cables.

Well excuuuuuuuuse me!

I heard after 25ft the signal gets weaker. Don't kick me to the floor because I'm wrong and 1080P does work fine. I didn't know. Maybe the real issue is when you add HD surround and 3D into the mix without boosting the signal? Just posting what I had heard.

I mean sheesh. Plus Chapbass. You said:

How long do you guys think the Ultrathin's will get? I have about a 40-50 ft run, and while I'm using an HDMI to ethernet converter atm (just a cheap one), the thing drops signal whenever theres any sort of power fluctuation (florescent lights turn on/off, lightning outside (even far away), etc).

Anyone have a comparison of the ultrathin to thin? Or hell, thin to something standard, like cat5e?

That would to me hint that the signal is weak and needs to be boosted. I was just trying to help and offer another solution.

Anyways back on topic....

I did hook up the Ultra Slim HDMI cables I got. Working great so far. I'd assume the longer lengths should be great too. They do have the Slims in 40-50ft. I don't know about the Ultra Slims.

Ask Monoprice.com at the main site on the top of the page click on Customer Service chat. If you don't see it then they are closed or give them a call: 1-877-271-2592 or e-mail, Facebook. Whatever. Someone should let you know if more varieties of there RedMere HDMI line is coming.

 

[Modelworks]

The thing about 'my tv works fine with 500ft cables' is two different models of tv are not guaranteed to work because someone else might have been able to use that long a cable. Manufacturer of the chipsets that drive the cables aim for the HDMI spec, some are better than others and actually surpass the spec that is needed. The problem is there is no way to tell what quality the driving chips are inside a tv or a video player or how a combination of different devices will work except to go by the HDMI spec, that is why people who do this stuff for a living don't like to tell people a 50ft cable will work fine, because there is no guarantee, where if they recommend a 5ft HDMI spec cable they can almost guarantee it to work.

 

[Crow550]

The thing about 'my tv works fine with 500ft cables' is two different models of tv are not guaranteed to work because someone else might have been able to use that long a cable. Manufacturer of the chipsets that drive the cables aim for the HDMI spec, some are better than others and actually surpass the spec that is needed. The problem is there is no way to tell what quality the driving chips are inside a tv or a video player or how a combination of different devices will work except to go by the HDMI spec, that is why people who do this stuff for a living don't like to tell people a 50ft cable will work fine, because there is no guarantee, where if they recommend a 5ft HDMI spec cable they can almost guarantee it to work.

500ft? Without a signal booster? Whoa. See I didn't know. However those 500ft cables are pretty thick right? I'd assume in wall? Anyways thanks for the info.

 

[Chapbass]

Well excuuuuuuuuse me!

I heard after 25ft the signal gets weaker. Don't kick me to the floor because I'm wrong and 1080P does work fine. I didn't know. Maybe the real issue is when you add HD surround and 3D into the mix without boosting the signal? Just posting what I had heard.

I mean sheesh. Plus Chapbass. You said:



That would to me hint that the signal is weak and needs to be boosted. I was just trying to help and offer another solution.

Anyways back on topic....

I did hook up the Ultra Slim HDMI cables I got. Working great so far. I'd assume the longer lengths should be great too. They do have the Slims in 40-50ft. I don't know about the Ultra Slims.

Ask Monoprice.com at the main site on the top of the page click on Customer Service chat. If you don't see it then they are closed or give them a call: 1-877-271-2592 or e-mail, Facebook. Whatever. Someone should let you know if more varieties of there RedMere HDMI line is coming.

Okay, it was a little harsh, true...however one thing I did say is that the HDMI to ethernet extension is dropping...normal HDMI cable doesn't do anything wrong at all.

Either way! Not a discussion about HDMI cable length spec! I'll give monoprice a ring if I get un-lazy and see what they have to say.

 

[Crow550]

Okay, it was a little harsh, true...however one thing I did say is that the HDMI to ethernet extension is dropping...normal HDMI cable doesn't do anything wrong at all.

Either way! Not a discussion about HDMI cable length spec! I'll give monoprice a ring if I get un-lazy and see what they have to say.

Odd. Well we can continue this discussion elsewhere.

Back on topic.

 

[Sephire]

I have a 75ft HDMI from monoprice. They work just fine on 1080p

 

[Crow550]

I have a 75ft HDMI from monoprice. They work just fine on 1080p

You got the 75ft RedMere?

How thick is it? Pics or video? Just curious.

Do you have it in wall or by a wall?

 

[Drako]

You got the 75ft RedMere?

They don't sell a 75ft RedMere HDMI cable, so how could he?

They do sell "standard" and "standard with equalizer" 75ft cables.

 

[Crow550]

This thread is for RedMere HDMI. It slid a little off topic but now is back.

I thought they had 75ft. Guess I was mistaken.

 

[Sephire]

No, I have a regular HDMI bought couple of years ago from Monoprice.

 

[gorb]

I dunno if anybody cares, but here's a picture I took comparing a 24AWG cable with one of the ultrathin ones. Both cables are 6ft.

 

[Chapbass]

I dunno if anybody cares, but here's a picture I took comparing a 24AWG cable with one of the ultrathin ones. Both cables are 6ft.

Oh man, thats pretty sick....

I'm sure the longer redmere cables get a little thicker (or don't they?) but even if they do...still a MAJOR improvement. me likey.

 

[gorb]

Yeah, the longer ones are thicker. I think the only difference between the Ultra Slim and Slim cables are that the connector heads are much more compact on the Ultra Slims.

According to the product description of the 6/10/15 ft cables, both the ultra slim and slim are 36AWG. The slim 30/40/50/60 cables are 28AWG.

 

[LOUISSSSS]

does it matter which gauge? i want to maximum performance from my HTPC (full blown OC'd quad core + ssd + gaming graphics) to my receiver to my TV

most of my current cables are 6ft, but if i get these i'd get from 10ft so i can clean up the wiring a bit better...

 

[Chapbass]

does it matter which gauge? i want to maximum performance from my HTPC (full blown OC'd quad core + ssd + gaming graphics) to my receiver to my TV

most of my current cables are 6ft, but if i get these i'd get from 10ft so i can clean up the wiring a bit better...

Yeah, it definitely matters gauge when trying to run them either in cable raceways or in walls. Smaller cables also bend easier. Try messing with a 40-50ft HDMI and get it to run in any sort of reasonable fashion...its a pipe and a big eyesore...

 

[Auric]

It is a pity the longer lengths ended up nearly the same thickness as passive cables. I need a thirty-five foot cable which from monoprice puts the RedMere 40' @ $63 against the 35' Standard flat cable @ $30. However, other mongers claim to have High-Speed with Ethernet for that price or less.

 

[LOUISSSSS]

at short distances: 6-10ft, does gauge matter? will my 24awg work as well as the thin redmere cables? Does it matter the application: something diesel like a full fledged PC HDMI - Receiver, or something as basic as a BR player to TV?

 

[queequeg99]

at short distances: 6-10ft, does gauge matter? will my 24awg work as well as the thin redmere cables? Does it matter the application: something diesel like a full fledged PC HDMI - Receiver, or something as basic as a BR player to TV?

At such short distances, your 24awg should work fine. Ideally, you'll have something that is high speed rated. But in most cases, standard speed cables work perfectly well (especially at shorter distances). You can find high speed rated cables at even thinner gauges, so I would expect no problems with your cable (no matter what the manufacturer tested it at).

If you already have the cable, use it. It will be pretty obvious if it isn't up to the task.

 

[Crow550]

Picked up a 50ft Ultra Slim at Monoprice which was on sale.

Will post a review.

 

[sdifox]

At such short distances, your 24awg should work fine. Ideally, you'll have something that is high speed rated. But in most cases, standard speed cables work perfectly well (especially at shorter distances). You can find high speed rated cables at even thinner gauges, so I would expect no problems with your cable (no matter what the manufacturer tested it at).

If you already have the cable, use it. It will be pretty obvious if it isn't up to the task.

lulz high speed... like they use special conductors to make electricity move faster. not a dig at you, just commenting on marketing nonsense.

 

[Crow550]

lulz high speed... like they use special conductors to make electricity move faster. not a dig at you, just commenting on marketing nonsense.

Didn't the HDMI spec rename the 1.3 and 1.4 versions of HDMI regular and high speed?

So in a nutshell the latest/future HDMI specs are in the "high speed" cables and the "regular" HDMI cables handle what we have now which is 1080P....As the high speed can support 4K and some other stuff.