Monopoly: Is Boardwalk worth it?

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Leros

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1.) What are the other people doing on the other properties while the person is building houses/hotels at Boardwalk? Why aren't they trying to build houses/hotels at the other properties they own?

2.) That rarely happens when playing online or using the "electronic banking" edition. 3+ hours? I've played Civ4 games that were much longer than that.

I agree with MagnusTheBrewer.
I think the people you play with are incompetent.
I'd love to play both you and the people you play with. You guys can fight over Boardwalk, while I control and monopolize the entire strip on the other side.

The other people are usually building up 1 or 2 monopolies of their own, but you can afford to land on most of those properties a handful of times before going bankrupt.
 

HamburgerBoy

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The other people are usually building up 1 or 2 monopolies of their own, but you can afford to land on most of those properties a handful of times before going bankrupt.

Not rly. I wouldn't be surprised if it's more likely to land on two non-Park Place/Boardwalk properties in a given board-rotation than on those properties even once. One magenta hotel and one hotel of anything higher will do as much damage as Boardwalk.
 

lothar

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The other people are usually building up 1 or 2 monopolies of their own, but you can afford to land on most of those properties a handful of times before going bankrupt.
Does not compute...

Houses on Boardwalk cost $200 each. Houses on New York Ave cost $100 each.
By the time the person that owns Boardwalk has 2 houses($200 each) there, you should be able to have 4 houses($100 each) at New York Ave.

Rent at New York Ave after spending $400 on 4 houses: $800
Rent at Boardwalk after spending the same exact $400 on 2 houses: $600

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This doesn't even take probabilities into account that was cited by this research:
http://www.tkcs-collins.com/truman/monopoly/monopoly.shtml

Probability of one landing on New York Ave: 3.0852%
Probability of one landing on Tennessee Ave: 2.9356%
Probability of one landing on St. James Place: 2.7924%

Probably of one landing on Boardwalk: 2.6260%
Probability of one landing on Park Place: 2.1864%

Conclusion:
a) You have an 8.8132% combined chance of landing on an Orange square, period.
b) You have a 4.8124% combined chance of landing on the blue Park Place/Boardwalk square.
c) You get double the chance and also the fact that rent is higher with 4 houses at New York Ave compared to the same price of 2 houses at Boardwalk leads one to the logical conclusion that Boardwalk isn't more important than the orange or red squares. You'd likely have bankrupted the person that wastes their time fighting over owning and building houses/hotels on the Boardwalk colored squares instead of trying to control the orange or red squares.
 

lothar

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Also, those of you that consider yourselves to be "Monopoly" experts, go and play against the AI in Monopoly 3. :D

You will be shocked at how bad of a player you are.
 

Nemesis 1

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I have never lost a game of monopoly ever. and I don't care to discuss how i play the game . but i won't play unless I get the dice in hand , I love to play backgammon but not online . I want dice in hand . The programmers suck at dice rolls
 

Possessed Freak

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I have never lost a game of monopoly ever. and I don't care to discuss how i play the game . but i won't play unless I get the dice in hand , I love to play backgammon but not online . I want dice in hand . The programmers suck at dice rolls

Obviously you don't play with a crew of similar skill.

It is *all* about deal making. Free hits, immunity, future cash or trades. If you have the cheapies, buy 4 houses and screw up the housing market. Twice in recent history I have been completely out of cash before owning a monopoly but won the game due to the chance of people hitting my properties. I will gladly mortgage a property to purchase another. Orange is by far the best monopoly for the reasons listed in the OP. If I am forced to mortgage property I try very hard to keep the utilities and the railroads up and running as they are the absolute best return on the investment of undeveloped property.

I play monopoly about once a week with the same crew of 4. We are all cut throat and it is a great quick time (trust me we speed play the game). We have only a few house rules to limit the dickiness we try to do. Only the active player and owner may be involved in a deal if the active player lands on an owned space (stops the "well I am going down so I will give X all my property for a buck). Any proposed deal must be beneficial to both players (again, stops the I am about to hit pain ally so I will sell everything I got to another player for nothing).

We have been trying some other house rules to change the game up a bit, starting on the Go to Jail space and not doing anything but moving your piece until you round Go (to help randomize the start a bit). Doing a quick start (2 properties randomly given out and paid for). Playing with Free Parking all taxes/owe to bank payments go there. $400 if you land on Go. You can buy somebody's mortgaged property for full value if you land on it (really makes people not want to keep stuff mortgaged!).
 

Possessed Freak

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Does not compute...

Houses on Boardwalk cost $200 each. Houses on New York Ave cost $100 each.
By the time the person that owns Boardwalk has 2 houses($200 each) there, you should be able to have 4 houses($100 each) at New York Ave.

Rent at New York Ave after spending $400 on 4 houses: $800
Rent at Boardwalk after spending the same exact $400 on 2 houses: $600


Getting a 4th house on New York means a total investment of $1000 (3/3/4). With the same investment of $1000 you can have a 3rd house on Boardwalk (2/3). $1400 is a bit more than the $800 on New York.

Orange looks attractive as a reliable moneymaker. It is hard to kill people with orange though. Late game people will have the cash reserves to eat an 800 dollar hit once before losing houses/mortgaging. If then you hit them it is pretty even. Hitting the $1400 spot on Boardwalk is a tough one to swallow. Few have 3 orange bills laying around for that hit. Blue has to survive until one person hits them. Orange has to survive until blue is knocked out.
 

John Connor

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LMFAO! Since this was reopened by an idiot spammer...

"Monopoly: Is Boardwalk worth it?" EVERYTHING IS WORTH IT! :twisted:
 

ultimatebob

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Err, there's no Boardwalk on a monopoly board. That square would be Mayfair.

:sneaky:

Is there anything Americans do that isn't total fail?

:p

You must have the weird Aussie version of the game. The original had properties based on streets in Atlantic City, New Jersey.

Back then, Atlantic City was a much nicer place to live. Now it's a giant slum with a boardwalk on the edge of it.
 
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