Modified trucks pose road risk [raised suspensions/oversized tires]

[Freejack2]

Originally posted by: Xionide

Originally posted by: Freejack2
Edit: Ack double post. 🙁

With the post limit i dont see how thats possible

-Xionide

Post limit? What is that?
Basically I hit reply to topic, nothing happened, so I clicked it a couple of times. Still nothing happened so I closed the window. Refreshed the thread and found my post twice. If this post limit thing is supposed to stop it, it isn't working.


Anyways back onto the thread, correct me if I'm wrong but don't tractor trailers have lower bumpers? I think this could be easily solved by requiring some kind of bar or bumper on these raised vehicles that is car height. As long as it's easily removable for offroading I don't think it'd be a real problem.

 

[Murphyrulez]

Originally posted by: Raiden256
Pretty much no chance I'm reading all that....

Didn't quite make it through middle school, eh bubba? Good that you took the time to thread crap, although you don't have time to read... GOOD CHOICE!

 

[Murphyrulez]

Originally posted by: Shockwave

Of course it matters!! If she was putting on makeup, ran a redlight and got T-boned then the truck is catching a bad rap. And face it, if you even THINK lifted trucks are involved in more accidents then other types your so much a fool I wont even continue this argument. 95% of the pickups out there are not lifted.

Ahhh. So running a redlight is now an offense that can be punished with lifelong brain damage.

I don't give a damn if I was jaywalking while I was driving my car down a one-way street the wrong way with expired plates, it still doesn't make it OK for a truck to ram its bumper through my window. God made bumpers at certain heights for a reason.

But you keep up that BUM RAP argument, it might work on a retarded 6 year old.

 

[BornStar]

Typically I don't have a problem with people making modifications to vehicles. I might laugh at them but it's not really a big deal to me. I get extremely frustrated with the people that decide they need to raise their 20yo Jeep a foot and then drive it on public roads. I personally think (and this will be the only time you will hear me state that there should be a law regarding car production) that there should be a range for bumpers. There must be a bumper that goes from, say, 9in to 12in above the road. Anything outside of that is up to the manufacturer. If you decide that your truck needs to be raised, trailer it to wherever you're gonig offroading but STAY OFF THE ROADS.

 

[Shockwave]

Originally posted by: Murphyrulez

Originally posted by: Shockwave

Of course it matters!! If she was putting on makeup, ran a redlight and got T-boned then the truck is catching a bad rap. And face it, if you even THINK lifted trucks are involved in more accidents then other types your so much a fool I wont even continue this argument. 95% of the pickups out there are not lifted.

Ahhh. So running a redlight is now an offense that can be punished with lifelong brain damage.

I don't give a damn if I was jaywalking while I was driving my car down a one-way street the wrong way with expired plates, it still doesn't make it OK for a truck to ram its bumper through my window. God made bumpers at certain heights for a reason.

But you keep up that BUM RAP argument, it might work on a retarded 6 year old.

No, IMO running a red light is an offense that should be punished by death. brian damage is a good substitute however. i have NO respect for people who run reds. Not even a little itty bitty bit.
But we dont know that thats what ahppened so its a moot point.
My point is statistically raised trucks arent that dangerous since theres just so damned few of them. What about big wings that obstruct vision? Or very heavy cars? I dont wanna get slammed into by a 3 ton frickin Lincoln or Volvo. What about radios, maybe we should take those out since it can distract drivers.

My point is people who point fingers at one thing only as a problem are just retarded. ITS A LIFTED TRUCK! BAN IT! But radios, heavy cars, and obstructions of visibility are ok..... Yeah, thats certainly a logic thats gonna get you far......

 

[Turin39789]

it's not that IF th government steps in here they will be curtailing your right to kill/harm yourself in the pursuit of fun Shockwave, they would step in to curtail your right to kill/harm me/my mother/little orphan annie when you are having fun. I'm all for you playing a game of russian roulette with yourself, but when you start pointing that gun at me, I have a problem

 

[Goosemaster]

Originally posted by: Shockwave

Originally posted by: Murphyrulez

Originally posted by: Shockwave

Of course it matters!! If she was putting on makeup, ran a redlight and got T-boned then the truck is catching a bad rap. And face it, if you even THINK lifted trucks are involved in more accidents then other types your so much a fool I wont even continue this argument. 95% of the pickups out there are not lifted.

Ahhh. So running a redlight is now an offense that can be punished with lifelong brain damage.

I don't give a damn if I was jaywalking while I was driving my car down a one-way street the wrong way with expired plates, it still doesn't make it OK for a truck to ram its bumper through my window. God made bumpers at certain heights for a reason.

But you keep up that BUM RAP argument, it might work on a retarded 6 year old.

No, IMO running a red light is an offense that should be punished by death. brian damage is a good substitute however. i have NO respect for people who run reds. Not even a little itty bitty bit.
But we dont know that thats what ahppened so its a moot point.
My point is statistically raised trucks arent that dangerous since theres just so damned few of them. What about big wings that obstruct vision? Or very heavy cars? I dont wanna get slammed into by a 3 ton frickin Lincoln or Volvo. What about radios, maybe we should take those out since it can distract drivers.

My point is people who point fingers at one thing only as a problem are just retarded. ITS A LIFTED TRUCK! BAN IT! But radios, heavy cars, and obstructions of visibility are ok..... Yeah, thats certainly a logic thats gonna get you far......

Let me get this straight. You assume, for your intenets and purposes, that the mercedes driver ran the red light that caused the accident, yet when someone else offers a contrary yet TOTALLY reasonable explanation, it is MOOT?

Yeah, nice arguments ther buddy ;roll:


As for my opinion, lifted trucks are a novelty that can cause a LOT of damage if misused. Simply jumping on the "government regulation is evil" bandwagon is just plain ignorant. I would recommend governmentally mandated trainning and inspections. If these people are not willing to learn how to use their machines that could possibly mame or kill one of my loved ones, they should not be allowed to do so. That is UNEQUIVECALLY REASONABLE for all parties involved.

No educated person seriously wants a police state, yet we, for the most part, have the common sense to appreciate the value of limited regulation. Shockwave, your argument, IMO, comes off very immature as it discounts the success that our society has allowed itself through limted government supervision. I could easily apply your argument to other aspects of life if you need clarification.


Basically, stop playing the "governemnt regulation is evil in all forms and quantities " card.

It makes you look fat.

 

[BurnItDwn]

Raised trucks are cool.

 

[Shockwave]

Originally posted by: Goosemaster

Originally posted by: Shockwave

Originally posted by: Murphyrulez

Originally posted by: Shockwave

Of course it matters!! If she was putting on makeup, ran a redlight and got T-boned then the truck is catching a bad rap. And face it, if you even THINK lifted trucks are involved in more accidents then other types your so much a fool I wont even continue this argument. 95% of the pickups out there are not lifted.

Ahhh. So running a redlight is now an offense that can be punished with lifelong brain damage.

I don't give a damn if I was jaywalking while I was driving my car down a one-way street the wrong way with expired plates, it still doesn't make it OK for a truck to ram its bumper through my window. God made bumpers at certain heights for a reason.

But you keep up that BUM RAP argument, it might work on a retarded 6 year old.

No, IMO running a red light is an offense that should be punished by death. brian damage is a good substitute however. i have NO respect for people who run reds. Not even a little itty bitty bit.
But we dont know that thats what ahppened so its a moot point.
My point is statistically raised trucks arent that dangerous since theres just so damned few of them. What about big wings that obstruct vision? Or very heavy cars? I dont wanna get slammed into by a 3 ton frickin Lincoln or Volvo. What about radios, maybe we should take those out since it can distract drivers.

My point is people who point fingers at one thing only as a problem are just retarded. ITS A LIFTED TRUCK! BAN IT! But radios, heavy cars, and obstructions of visibility are ok..... Yeah, thats certainly a logic thats gonna get you far......

Let me get this straight. You assume, for your intenets and purposes, that the mercedes driver ran the red light that caused the accident, yet when someone else offers a contrary yet TOTALLY reasonable explanation, it is MOOT?

Yeah, nice arguments ther buddy ;roll:


As for my opinion, lifted trucks are a novelty that can cause a LOT of damage if misused. Simply jumping on the "government regulation is evil" bandwagon is just plain ignorant. I would recommend governmentally mandated trainning and inspections. If these people are not willing to learn how to use their machines that could possibly mame or kill one of my loved ones, they should not be allowed to do so. That is UNEQUIVECALLY REASONABLE for all parties involved.

No educated person seriously wants a police state, yet we, for the most part, have the common sense to appreciate the value of limited regulation. Shockwave, your argument, IMO, comes off very immature as it discounts the success that our society has allowed itself through limted government supervision. I could easily apply your argument to other aspects of life if you need clarification.


Basically, stop playing the "governemnt regulation is evil in all forms and quantities " card.

It makes you look fat.

And your rebuttal makes you look dumb (Suprise)
I said the whole accident point is moot. We dont know WHAT happened. I also am saying that government "regulation" as used by the other poster was flat out government BAN. But your brainaic reading comprehension noticed that didnt you.......
I'm ALL for stricter regulation of what people can drive. I'm tired of soccer moms driving large SUV's like its their Honda. I've almost been ran off the road by some lady in a Tahoe talking on her cell phone.
Government regulation = good.
Government restriction = bad.

Murphy wants restriction. You cant have them. That is a police state, and I hate the thought. Government regulation, saying you need better brakes and sway bars for lifted trucks....Fine. All for it.
Now, are you done looking like a dumbass, or do you want to continue?

 

[WinkOsmosis]

Alot of those lifted trucks I see aren't lifted for function. They are lifted because they think it looks cool when the body is high and the frame is still low, or the front subframe is at stock ground clearance while the truck is 2 feet higher. Someone on VWVortex was saying he only lifts his trucks 5" and uses 33" max tires. Any more than that isn't for trails or rock crawling. It's for what I call redneck offroading.. and what they call "muddin'".

 

[fredtam]

Originally posted by: BurnItDwn
Raised trucks are cool.

 

[Murphyrulez]

Originally posted by: Shockwave
I've almost been ran off the road by some lady in a Tahoe talking on her cell phone.

If she had been driving a Lincoln Towncar, you wouldn't have been almost run off the road?

Your logic is faulty.

 

[Shockwave]

Originally posted by: Murphyrulez

Originally posted by: Shockwave
I've almost been ran off the road by some lady in a Tahoe talking on her cell phone.

If she had been driving a Lincoln Towncar, you wouldn't have been almost run off the road?

Your logic is faulty.

Good point, we should ban all cars that weigh over 200 pounds too eh?

No, the logic isnt faulty. Fvck your an idiot, I'm do with you.

 

[Ornery]

I don't see anybody wringing their hands about motorcyclists having even less protection than the eensie car drivers. If Julie Bonilla?s Mercedes 190E sedan had struck a motorcyclist, he'd be dead. What's the difference?

 

[Demon-Xanth]

The same has been said about the tall bumpers on the backs of trucks. One person even was lobbying to mandate that the rear bumpers on trucks and trailers be no more than 18" or so off the ground, or about half the distance that it is. But if you've ever seen a big rig coming out of a parking lot or a logging truck coming down a road, you'd know that they'd basically make the trucks completely worthless. And if you're worried about the lifted pickup, being packaged in a sucrets box sized metal casing that used to be your car when two big rigs happened to be arguing over the space that your car used to occupy during a pile up accident should scare you silly.

Driving is an inherantly risky activity, we can mitigate some of the risks, and reduce others. But in the end we're taking our like in our hands EVERY time we step out the door. There is no such thing as "perfectly safe".

 

[Murphyrulez]

Originally posted by: Shockwave

Originally posted by: Murphyrulez

Originally posted by: Shockwave
I've almost been ran off the road by some lady in a Tahoe talking on her cell phone.

If she had been driving a Lincoln Towncar, you wouldn't have been almost run off the road?

Your logic is faulty.

Good point, we should ban all cars that weigh over 200 pounds too eh?

No, the logic isnt faulty. Fvck your an idiot, I'm do with you.

Lol, what's the matter, am I making you think about what you are writing? I know you must be used to just spouting out whatever pops into your brain.

The logic you are using says that THE BIG SUV IS WHAT RAN ME OFF THE ROAD. I say that even if the woman was driving a CAR, she still would have been on her cell phone, still would have been distracted, still RAN YOU OFF THE ROAD.

Not too hard to figure out. Good job dismissing people who have more brain cells than you.

 

[erikistired]

how else can i run over all the little pansy electro cars if i don't have my lift and oversized tires?

 

[dabuddha]

Originally posted by: Shockwave

Originally posted by: Murphyrulez

Originally posted by: Shockwave
I've almost been ran off the road by some lady in a Tahoe talking on her cell phone.

If she had been driving a Lincoln Towncar, you wouldn't have been almost run off the road?

Your logic is faulty.

Good point, we should ban all cars that weigh over 200 pounds too eh?

No, the logic isnt faulty. Fvck your an idiot, I'm do with you.

You can't possibly be that stupid. Your log is faulty, plain and simple. You're arguments are those of a 2 year old child. Fault is not an issue here. It's the fact that one retard was driving a 2 story truck. Had he been driving a normal sized truck or even a car, the woman would not be where she is. Please try to get that through your thick skull or go troll elsewhere.

 

[chrisms]

This is America, damnit. If big trucks are banned in the USA, well then we might as well all become Canadians right now.

 

[erikistired]

Originally posted by: dabuddha

Originally posted by: Shockwave

Originally posted by: Murphyrulez

Originally posted by: Shockwave
I've almost been ran off the road by some lady in a Tahoe talking on her cell phone.

If she had been driving a Lincoln Towncar, you wouldn't have been almost run off the road?

Your logic is faulty.

Good point, we should ban all cars that weigh over 200 pounds too eh?

No, the logic isnt faulty. Fvck your an idiot, I'm do with you.

You can't possibly be that stupid. Your log is faulty, plain and simple. You're arguments are those of a 2 year old child. Fault is not an issue here. It's the fact that one retard was driving a 2 story truck. Had he been driving a normal sized truck or even a car, the woman would not be where she is. Please try to get that through your thick skull or go troll elsewhere.

sarcasm? i hope?

murphyrulez is the only one making sense. you can be driving a yugo and run someone off the road if you're paying more attention to a cell phone than driving. the size of the vehicle shouldn't matter if someone is swerving around. the fact she was driving a tahoe makes no difference.

ah now i see. instead of talking about the original comment you revert back to the OP's story. might want to mention that next time you start raving, save ppl the trouble of having to figure it all out.

 

[StageLeft]

It's off-road equipment that has a questionable place on the road. I've seen quite a few trucks locally that would simply roll over any small to medium sedan (and some would roll over SUVs). This is a stupid fight though - let's first fight the one about 6000 pound SUVs that are far more numerous than a few off-roader's vehicles.

 

[OffTopic1]

Originally posted by: Demon-Xanth
The same has been said about the tall bumpers on the backs of trucks. One person even was lobbying to mandate that the rear bumpers on trucks and trailers be no more than 18" or so off the ground, or about half the distance that it is. But if you've ever seen a big rig coming out of a parking lot or a logging truck coming down a road, you'd know that they'd basically make the trucks completely worthless. And if you're worried about the lifted pickup, being packaged in a sucrets box sized metal casing that used to be your car when two big rigs happened to be arguing over the space that your car used to occupy during a pile up accident should scare you silly.

Driving is an inherantly risky activity, we can mitigate some of the risks, and reduce others. But in the end we're taking our like in our hands EVERY time we step out the door. There is no such thing as "perfectly safe".

"It's a dangerous business, Frodo, going out of your door. You step into the Road, and if you don't keep your feet, there is no knowing where you might be swept off to." -- Bilbo

 

[WinkOsmosis]

Originally posted by: Murphyrulez

Originally posted by: Shockwave
I've almost been ran off the road by some lady in a Tahoe talking on her cell phone.

If she had been driving a Lincoln Towncar, you wouldn't have been almost run off the road?

Your logic is faulty.

YOUR logic is faulty if you believe that it's just as difficult to see others cars from a Town Car as a full size SUV.

 

[fredtam]

This is almost any truck hitting a car in the side.My wife's old Sentra owned by a stock 4x4 F150.. If it had hit further back on the car there would have been intrusion in the cabin. I think it dented the bumper on the F150. Should we ban all trucks?

 

[Shockwave]

Originally posted by: dabuddha

Originally posted by: Shockwave

Originally posted by: Murphyrulez

Originally posted by: Shockwave
I've almost been ran off the road by some lady in a Tahoe talking on her cell phone.

If she had been driving a Lincoln Towncar, you wouldn't have been almost run off the road?

Your logic is faulty.

Good point, we should ban all cars that weigh over 200 pounds too eh?

No, the logic isnt faulty. Fvck your an idiot, I'm do with you.

You can't possibly be that stupid. Your log is faulty, plain and simple. You're arguments are those of a 2 year old child. Fault is not an issue here. It's the fact that one retard was driving a 2 story truck. Had he been driving a normal sized truck or even a car, the woman would not be where she is. Please try to get that through your thick skull or go troll elsewhere.

Why do you guys always ruin my fun 🙁