Modern Snake Oil Salesmen....

[Toastedlightly]

Originally posted by: spidey07
meh, I make my own.

You really can't deny how good a nice power cable sounds.

Silent?

 

[Queasy]

I thought this was going to be about Al Gore...

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: Toastedlightly

Originally posted by: spidey07
meh, I make my own.

You really can't deny how good a nice power cable sounds.

Silent?

Have you tried them or listened to them?

 

[Googer]

Originally posted by: Triumph

Originally posted by: Googer

Originally posted by: Quasmo
Just get a power conditioner.
damn it people are dumb.

I agree.

I am reading a review on this BS right now...

God, I hate these f*cking people. Look at this bullsh1t:

I know a few designers and audio engineers to whom the power cord phenomenon is a highly unpleasant obnoxicant. Power cords shouldn't make the kind of audible differences they can make. It's something even these science-driven types will grudgingly admit. As part of their work, they must rely on and trust their own ears to incorporate empirical evidence that lacks any obvious textbook verification or convenient explanation. They acknowledge full well that power cords will sound different from one another. But they usually prefer to derail the conversation to a topic over which they have a firmer grasp.

What he's saying is that he can't find any measurable evidence to back up his claim that power cables can make a difference in sound quality. That's because they don't, jackass!

That said, the ZCable cords improved over my prior contenders in a couple of areas, specifically bass weight and slam; enhanced image density or body; micro-dynamic range; and a further reduction of my system's noisefloor

Can you see the brown, stinky bullsh1t oozing from his mouth like so much diarrhea? I hate these people.

:thumbsup:, Like I said, he is getting some sort of (non-cash/non-monetary) under the table compensation.

 

[Googer]

$11,000 BS One Cord- 8 Feet

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: Googer
$11,000 BS One Cord- 8 Feet

That is a really nice cable though.

 

[Triumph]

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: Toastedlightly

Originally posted by: spidey07
meh, I make my own.

You really can't deny how good a nice power cable sounds.

Silent?

Have you tried them or listened to them?

Do they "inject speed and transient incisiveness" into the music? Do they provide a "tangible aura that extends into three dimensions"? Do they provide more "bass weight and slam, enhanced image density or body"? Because that's the kind of malarkey that most audiophiles seem to spout when trying their best to justify their illogical purchases. :thumbsdown:

*edit* those are all bullsh1t quotes from the review posted above.

 

[shortspanishguy]

But when I hooked up my new Sigma Retro Golds, we were brought to tears. My sound wasn't enhanced, it was real, it was natural.

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: Triumph
Do they "inject speed and transient incisiveness" into the music? Do they provide a "tangible aura that extends into three dimensions"? Do they provide more "bass weight and slam, enhanced image density or body"? Because that's the kind of malarkey that most audiophiles seem to spout when trying their best to justify their illogical purchases. :thumbsdown:

*edit* those are all bullsh1t quotes from the review posted above.

So that's a "NO, I have not listened to them or the impact that can be had"?

Did I get that right? I've said it many times, you don't need an expensive cable to sound good. You do however need well made ones. Power cables are an easy improvement that yield good results.

 

[Googer]

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: Googer
$11,000 BS One Cord- 8 Feet

That is a really nice cable though.

You must be joking.

 

[edro]

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: Googer
$11,000 BS One Cord- 8 Feet

That is a really nice cable though.

PSS Silver conductors? WTF is PSS?

That better be a 99% Platinum to 1% silver alloy for that price.

 

[Googer]

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: Triumph
Do they "inject speed and transient incisiveness" into the music? Do they provide a "tangible aura that extends into three dimensions"? Do they provide more "bass weight and slam, enhanced image density or body"? Because that's the kind of malarkey that most audiophiles seem to spout when trying their best to justify their illogical purchases. :thumbsdown:

*edit* those are all bullsh1t quotes from the review posted above.

So that's a "NO, I have not listened to them or the impact that can be had"?

Did I get that right? I've said it many times, you don't need an expensive cable to sound good. You do however need well made ones. Power cables are an easy improvement that yield good results.

It's the whole overclocking metality at work here. You would be better off spending an extra $3,000 on better speakers and amplifiers.

Just like you fools who buy $400 motherboards, $800 ram modules, and then buy a $50 celeron to make it run like a $600 processor. You money would have been better spent on a $900 CPU, Cheaper ram, and a fairly basic motherboard.

 

[Googer]

Originally posted by: Triumph

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: Toastedlightly

Originally posted by: spidey07
meh, I make my own.

You really can't deny how good a nice power cable sounds.

Silent?

Have you tried them or listened to them?

Do they "inject speed and transient incisiveness" into the music? Do they provide a "tangible aura that extends into three dimensions"? Do they provide more "bass weight and slam, enhanced image density or body"? Because that's the kind of malarkey that most audiophiles seem to spout when trying their best to justify their illogical purchases. :thumbsdown:

*edit* those are all bullsh1t quotes from the review posted above.

You've at least got to give them credit for creative verbage and scripting.:thumbsup:

 

[Toastedlightly]

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: Toastedlightly

Originally posted by: spidey07
meh, I make my own.

You really can't deny how good a nice power cable sounds.

Silent?

Have you tried them or listened to them?

yea. The one siting on my bed isn't saying anything to me.

 

[Greenman]

I need to get into this line of work. I'd bet those cables wholesale for less than twenty bucks each. Even if each one is hand made they would be less than a hundred each, selling for 1 to 5k is some great markup.
I'm going to look into this.

 

[Kilim]

Originally posted by: Googer

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: Triumph
Do they "inject speed and transient incisiveness" into the music? Do they provide a "tangible aura that extends into three dimensions"? Do they provide more "bass weight and slam, enhanced image density or body"? Because that's the kind of malarkey that most audiophiles seem to spout when trying their best to justify their illogical purchases. :thumbsdown:

*edit* those are all bullsh1t quotes from the review posted above.

So that's a "NO, I have not listened to them or the impact that can be had"?

Did I get that right? I've said it many times, you don't need an expensive cable to sound good. You do however need well made ones. Power cables are an easy improvement that yield good results.

It's the whole overclocking metality at work here. You would be better off spending an extra $3,000 on better speakers and amplifiers.

Just like you fools who buy $400 motherboards, $800 ram modules, and then buy a $50 celeron to make it run like a $600 processor. You money would have been better spent on a $900 CPU, Cheaper ram, and a fairly basic motherboard.

H...Ha....How DARE you!

 

[YOyoYOhowsDAjello]

This is better http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...atid=38&threadid=1966860&enterthread=y

 

[Googer]

Originally posted by: Kilim

Originally posted by: Googer

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: Triumph
Do they "inject speed and transient incisiveness" into the music? Do they provide a "tangible aura that extends into three dimensions"? Do they provide more "bass weight and slam, enhanced image density or body"? Because that's the kind of malarkey that most audiophiles seem to spout when trying their best to justify their illogical purchases. :thumbsdown:

*edit* those are all bullsh1t quotes from the review posted above.

So that's a "NO, I have not listened to them or the impact that can be had"?

Did I get that right? I've said it many times, you don't need an expensive cable to sound good. You do however need well made ones. Power cables are an easy improvement that yield good results.

It's the whole overclocking metality at work here. You would be better off spending an extra $3,000 on better speakers and amplifiers.

Just like you fools who buy $400 motherboards, $800 ram modules, and then buy a $50 celeron to make it run like a $600 processor. You money would have been better spent on a $900 CPU, Cheaper ram, and a fairly basic motherboard.

H...Ha....How DARE you!

Oh, and lets not forget the $100 gold plated heat sinks and the $500-700 watercooling set ups complete with a high powered $150 peltier (TEMs) and $399 1kw PSU's.

It's people like this that make a basic, (relitively) affordable hobby out of reach for the masses. They force prices to go needlesly higher than they should be. Speaker wire should not cost more than 20-35¢ per foot, not this $1-9 per foot crud. Same is true for ram, crucial used to make cheap quality ram untill people started to demand more expenisive stuff and Crucial's response to this was to keep the product the same but charge a higher price to give the aura of higher quality.

I liked my computer hobby better before all these (newbie) knuckle heads got involved and put new demands on manufacturers.

 

[Antisocial Virge]

That said, the ZCable cords improved over my prior contenders in a couple of areas, specifically bass weight and slam; enhanced image density or body; micro-dynamic range; and a further reduction of my system's noisefloor which I didn't think possible since I live in a remote rural area and partially underground, two factors that put me at the polar opposite end of inner city dwellers who, among other factors, are exposed to multiple high-power broadcast antennas and a much greater density of cellphone, computer and grid usage. Even so, my idyllic isolation from the big bad world of power pollution still proved itself prone to small-scale interferences, something only their present removal pointed out.

yea..thats right buddy. I love how they use srew on connectors on the plug end that you can buy at Lowes or home Depot.

 

[Googer]

Originally posted by: Antisocial Virge

That said, the ZCable cords improved over my prior contenders in a couple of areas, specifically bass weight and slam; enhanced image density or body; micro-dynamic range; and a further reduction of my system's noisefloor which I didn't think possible since I live in a remote rural area and partially underground, two factors that put me at the polar opposite end of inner city dwellers who, among other factors, are exposed to multiple high-power broadcast antennas and a much greater density of cellphone, computer and grid usage. Even so, my idyllic isolation from the big bad world of power pollution still proved itself prone to small-scale interferences, something only their present removal pointed out.

yea..thats right buddy. I love how they use srew on connectors on the plug end that you can buy at Lowes or home Depot.

Or the Boating Shop. Marinco makes marine grade and shore power connectors, not medical stuff.

 

[Rubycon]

Originally posted by: Howard

Was it the Hill Plasmatronics design?

Negatory.

 

[Tiamat]

Machina Dynamica Clever Little Clock

http://www.machinadynamica.com/machina41.htm

"Remove the Clock from its clear bubble pack and place it anywhere in the listening room. The sound will be considerably more musical and live-sounding -- there will be less distortion, more information and a deeper, more coherent soundstage. Low frequencies will be articulate, extended and dynamic, high frequencies exceptionally smooth with phenomenal inner detail. In other words, More of Everything!! "

 

[Googer]

Originally posted by: Greenman
I need to get into this line of work. I'd bet those cables wholesale for less than twenty bucks each. Even if each one is hand made they would be less than a hundred each, selling for 1 to 5k is some great markup.
I'm going to look into this.

Just before I started this thread, I was thinking the same thing. Prehaps you would like to go in to buisness with me and be my partner?

 

[Rubycon]

Originally posted by: Googer
Just before I started this thread, I was thinking the same thing. Prehaps you would like to go in to buisness with me and be my partner?

www.slicker50.com is available. :laugh:

 

[Antisocial Virge]

I think this guy is a shill to who ever will pay for his review. $180 power outlet. Now if I was serious about the "micro air gap arching" as he is I would have silver soldered those connection instead of just using plane old screws. What an idiot.