[modcrash.com] Nvidia 320.18 WHQL Display Driver is Damaging GPUs

[BallaTheFeared]

This thread just demonstrates neither company is beyond driver errors. Period.

This thread demonstrates that scope is lost at the hands of those who desire equality.

 

[3DVagabond]

So all those people seeing artifacts in games with this driver version need to make an emergency appointment with an opthamologist?

See below. I rest my case. It's all made up. All of it. Not a word of truth to be found.

No, it doesn't. I mean that is true, neither company is immune, but what this thread really shows is that people will truly believe what they want to believe. And this showing up the same day across multiple forums just shows the AMD Advocacy team just finished a group meeting, high five'd each other and took the internetz by storm.

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Keysplayr says it's the AMD advocacy team. We should just lock this thread now. No! delete it before too many people read it. /sarc




Seriously though, the damage control is really thick in this thread. I'm waiting for nVidia's response before I draw any conclusions. There is something to it though. There are too many complaints on the Geforce forums for it to be a few AMD marketers stirring the pot.

In the meantime I give the same advice I always do about issues with new drivers, don't update if you don't need to and if their are problems, roll back to what you were using before. Now, if there's any truth to this "killer driver" reports, that's a different story. That would be really bad.

 

[Keysplayr]

See below. I rest my case. It's all made up. All of it. Not a word of truth to be found.



Keysplayr says it's the AMD advocacy team. We should just lock this thread now. No! delete it before too many people read it. /sarc




Seriously though, the damage control is really thick in this thread. I'm waiting for nVidia's response before I draw any conclusions. There is something to it though. There are too many complaints on the Geforce forums for it to be a few AMD marketers stirring the pot.

In the meantime I give the same advice I always do about issues with new drivers, don't update if you don't need to and if their are problems, roll back to what you were using before. Now, if there's any truth to this "killer driver" reports, that's a different story. That would be really bad.

Yes, Keysplayr thinks a LARGE part of this is the Advocacy team from AMD. Why wouldn't you think so? Sorry 3DV. It just seems a bit coordinated to me.
Don't see it if you don't want to, that is totally expected. :sneaky:

 

[Grooveriding]

Lol, nvidia driver issues apparent and nvidia zealots engage full schizophrenia in response.

Expected thread evolution seen.

 

[NIGELG]

Yes, Keysplayr thinks a LARGE part of this is the Advocacy team from AMD. Why wouldn't you think so? Sorry 3DV. It just seems a bit coordinated to me.
Don't see it if you don't want to, that is totally expected. :sneaky:

Damage control from the confirmed Nvidia Focus GroupD:

AMD equivalent group yet to be confirmed.

 

[blackened23]

Presumably, the mindset is that everyone and anyone presenting an opposing viewpoint is due to working for a corporation. Some of that perhaps happens but I think a large part (99%+) of it is rabid fanboys - although, fanboys are just ridiculously annoying as well. Anyway, that entire mindset is not something I agree with.

 

[Vesku]

Yes, Keysplayr thinks a LARGE part of this is the Advocacy team from AMD. Why wouldn't you think so? Sorry 3DV. It just seems a bit coordinated to me.
Don't see it if you don't want to, that is totally expected. :sneaky:

Well I posted this because I saw it at Overclock.net and then checked if Anandtech users had been warned. Seems I might have set off a small information bomb by doing so, not sure.

Could be AMD advocates at work, no idea. Doesn't appear as coordinated as the frame metering dissemination though so it's tough to say.

 

[Keysplayr]

Well I posted this because I saw it at Overclock.net and then checked if Anandtech users had been warned. Seems I might have set off a small information bomb by doing so, not sure.

Could be AMD advocates at work, no idea. Doesn't appear as coordinated as the frame metering dissemination though so it's tough to say.

Frame metering took time. This took one day across many forum. What's tough about it?

 

[Vesku]

Frame metering took time. This took one day across many forum. What's tough about it?

Frame metering thing has a lot more deliberate marketing fingerprints imo. Nvidia having FCAT hardware to handout was quite interesting.

Edit: On topic, I know I wouldn't expect these kinds of issues with a WHQL driver so it's good the word is getting out. This version can just be avoided and people can wait for the thumbs up for the next version.

 

[blackened23]

With regard to the topic, I don't think it's true, in fact I highly doubt it. The source is questionable, I mean it's based on posts at the nvidia driver forum? Such reports pop up for any and every release, it doesn't make the reports true.

 

[Tweak155]

So all those people seeing artifacts in games with this driver version need to make an emergency appointment with an opthamologist?

No /sarc so not sure if srs...

 

[3DVagabond]

Yes, Keysplayr thinks a LARGE part of this is the Advocacy team from AMD. Why wouldn't you think so? Sorry 3DV. It just seems a bit coordinated to me.
Don't see it if you don't want to, that is totally expected. :sneaky:

It's not very well coordinated actually. No thread on TPU or [H] about it yet. Nothing on Tom's, HWC, PCPer, or TR. Hell, they haven't even told Charlie yet as I don't see anything on S\A. Me thinks this advocacy group needs some direction and guidance.

 

[Tweak155]

I think the proof that drivers can kill video cards was the SC2 issue when it was released. While it wasn't the drivers fault in this case, Blizzard didn't limit the FPS on the menu screens so some cards got fried. I imagine something similar could take place through drivers though.

 

[3DVagabond]

With regard to the topic, I don't think it's true, in fact I highly doubt it. The source is questionable, I mean it's based on posts at the nvidia driver forum? Such reports pop up for any and every release, it doesn't make the reports true.

Reports of drivers killing cards? That's not your typical driver complaints. Lots more blue screen black screen complaints than is typical too.

 

[AMD64Blondie]

Thank god I didn't upgrade my Nvidia drivers yet.

 

[amenx]

I think ViRGE stated it well. I would add there may be issues, graphical glitches in some games that may be more evident with certain drivers than others... in which case, big deal... revert to earlier driver.

There's nothing in 320.18 in particular that would damage cards. It's the 3rd public release from the R319 branch; compared to 320.00 and 310.14, the only thing new in it are optimizations for a couple of games, a handful of bug fixes, and some new profiles. Any changes in hardware management would have come with the new branch itself, and as a result would have showed up in 320.00 and 320.14.

TFA seems to just be based on reading NVIDIA's forums. Which is a dubious source, because these complaints crop up with every new driver release.

 

[wand3r3r]

This thread demonstrates that scope is lost at the hands of those who desire equality.

Right, don't drag my post into that BS implication. I had major issues in BF3 for months (artifacting so bad it required quitting the game, regularly) with NV drivers (known issue) but I don't sit and whine about it all the time. Ironically the ppl here (on this forum) are mostly NV users whining about AMD drivers.

It's not about equality, just demonstrating that NV isn't perfect which the AMD haters try to portray it as being.

 

[wand3r3r]

Frame metering thing has a lot more deliberate marketing fingerprints imo. Nvidia having FCAT hardware to handout was quite interesting.

Edit: On topic, I know I wouldn't expect these kinds of issues with a WHQL driver so it's good the word is getting out. This version can just be avoided and people can wait for the thumbs up for the next version.

Oh so true, smoothness along with using 20 watts less like anyone gives a hoot.

 

[NTMBK]

Yes, Keysplayr thinks a LARGE part of this is the Advocacy team from AMD. Why wouldn't you think so? Sorry 3DV. It just seems a bit coordinated to me.
Don't see it if you don't want to, that is totally expected. :sneaky:

Sure, blame it on shills with no proof whatsoever. :thumbsup:

 

[amenx]

I think it would be safe to say that the overall quality of Nvidia drivers - are a main attraction and factor why many buy Nvidia cards. Notwithstanding rare issues that may cause problems (and the infamous 196.75 one that glitched fan speeds causing damage to some cards and was quickly withdrawn), the drivers overall are still an Nvidia strong point imo. If they werent, my main GPU today would be an AMD card, no question about it. But as long as Nvidia keep up with what they're doing on the driver front, I'm with them for the forseeable future.

 

[Creig]

So the representative of a pro-Nvidia group is blaming the supposed members of a possible pro-AMD group of maybe orchestrating a mass campaign to discredit his sponsoring company.

Given the amount of evidence revealed so far to back up these accusations, I would give equal chance that it's aliens.

Or ducks.

 

[BallaTheFeared]

It's not about equality, just demonstrating that NV isn't perfect which the AMD haters try to portray it as being.

Sure it is, everyone should know every thing has issues from time to time. The scale and scope of said issues is the difference however.

There are two sides to every coin, the AMD haters point out all encompassing issues while the AMD lovers deny the existence of issues, no matter how trivial.

When you view things as you do you become engrossed in one side or the other, anyone from an objective standpoint would consider the issues and the evidence at hand instead of trying to say "Look, look, see!!! Dems have duh issues too!!! We not so bad noaw!".

 

[96Firebird]

Given the amount of evidence revealed so far to back up these accusations, I would give equal chance that it's aliens.

Given the amount of evidence revealed so far, I would also blame aliens for killing video cards.

 

[guskline]

I have the updated driver on 3 machines with a GTX680, 2 GTX670 FTWs in SLI and 2 GTX 660s in SLI respectively. I've be running Metro Last Light and COD BO II "hard" with no problems at all. None of the GPUs is OC'd.

 

[Mem]

I've had a few issues with this driver ie one time fan on my 560Ti card stayed on full speed,this was on first boot before I even got into any game lol,then it locked up a few times(was listed in reliability history has Nvidia has the cause),previous drivers have been solid so I put it down to this driver ,I may go back to the previous driver.