[modcrash.com] Nvidia 320.18 WHQL Display Driver is Damaging GPUs

[energee]

"Dorkstar" presents zero evidence in his "news" story.

 

[f1sherman]

Did you purposely edit out the part where he said in that thread, meaning the overclock.net thread?

Well done. :thumbsup:

"Dorkstar" presents zero evidence in his "news" story.

there was a BF2 ban "scandal" a week ago,
where NV driver purportedly caused innocent people to be banned

the key evidence for this bogus claim was cheaters linking each others threads, all claiming NV driver caused their ban

it has been 15 days since "cards started dieing", and NV still hasnt pulled back 320.18 driver... :hmm:

 

[HurleyBird]

I have no clue, he didn't provide the link.

I don't doubt there will be people who fake it when these kinds of reports come out. In this case the writing style between different reports is radically different, so at the very least it's unlikely that just one guy is being prolific faking reports

Driver frying 40W DDR3 GT620. Riiiight...

Why not? A quick image search for GT620's shows a few with pitifully anemic coolers. It's not raw dissipation that's going to kill chips, it's heat, and the binning on these low end chips is probably pretty broadly defined.

 

[DarkKnightDude]

The 320 drivers is seriously broken or something. Not sure if its killing hardware, but my 560 Ti is having a hilarious amount of artifacts in a few games like BF3, Grid, and Witcher 2. Going back to older ones.

 

[Majcric]

I've been too busy playing Metro that I didn't take notice this driver was even out. Finished Metro already so looks like I'll be skipping this one.

 

[toyota]

what I will never understand is why in the hell drivers will break something or many things that was working perfectly before. it seems like by now there would be a more reliable way to make drivers. too bad we can't all be lucky like the clowns that claim to have never had a driver issue ever, lol.

 

[Tsavo]

NSA is spying on me with these drivers.

 

[f1sherman]

I don't doubt there will be people who fake it when these kinds of reports come out. In this case the writing style between different reports is radically different, so at the very least it's unlikely that just one guy is being prolific faking reports

I'm not even claiming anyone is faking,
but you're seriously underestimating number of kooks out there,
as well as their commitment and the amount of time they have on their hands.

Just look at that investigative journalism and the sheer effort from the guy at OP link.
http://modcrash.com/nvidia-display-driver-damaging-gpus/#.UbUnjj4aRom

Why not? A quick image search for GT620's shows a few with pitifully anemic coolers. It's not raw dissipation that's going to kill chips, it's heat, and the binning on these low end chips is probably pretty broadly defined.

what binning
raw dissipation usually IS the heat. surely you mean "temperature"

that 40W DDR3 64 bit card is not going to go so easily even if you turned off that dinky fan, which BTW is what driver NEEDS to do to kill ANY card.
But no one is even mentioning fan getting turned off, is it?
So what do you propose, how did the driver kill that GT 620?


Any chances what so ever that those two 9800GT decided on their own to go and meet the maker? And chance that their demise has NOTHING to do with The Driver?

Any reasonably good evidence what-so-ever that the driver caused even a single death?

 

[f1sherman]

OK now im going to watch a good movie, and leave this thread to AMD enthusiasts and bloggers

/f1sherman#out

 

[3DVagabond]

OK now im going to watch a good movie, and leave this thread to AMD enthusiasts and bloggers

/f1sherman#out

WTF?

 

[HurleyBird]

raw dissipation usually IS the heat. surely you mean "temperature"

Correct, that's the more correct term.

that 40W DDR3 64 bit card is not going to go so easily even if you turned off that dinky fan, which BTW is what driver NEEDS to do to kill ANY card.

But no one is even mentioning fan getting turned off, is it?
So what do you propose, how did the driver kill that GT 620?

There are other ways a driver can theoretically kill a card, such as changing clocks or voltage. A driver could potentially induce, or allow to be induced, power virus type behavior -- or it could create more load on the graphics card in a more marginal way that pushes already borderline cards over the edge. Fan profiles may have been effected in a way that isn't immediately noticeable, or you could have any combination of the above.

Any chances what so ever that those two 9800GT decided on their own to go and meet the maker? And chance that their demise has NOTHING to do with The Driver?

Of course it's possible, and it's also possible that it is the driver. I don't see how anyone can say with certainty that all of the reports of dying cards are false though -- that sounds like believing something purely because you want it to be true. Nothing wrong with being skeptical though.

 

[taq8ojh]

Drivers killing a card?
Sounds JUST as idiotic as that hoax email back in late 90's (I think) claiming there was a new super deadly virus you get if you open a mail with subject xxx, that would completely destroy your hard disk by spinning it to tens of times its speed blabla.

 

[3DVagabond]

Drivers killing a card?
Sounds JUST as idiotic as that hoax email back in late 90's (I think) claiming there was a new super deadly virus you get if you open a mail with subject xxx, that would completely destroy your hard disk by spinning it to tens of times its speed blabla.

While I'm not yet ready to declare these drivers as "Killers", it's not as idiotic as you think. Do you recall 196.75

We are aware that some customers have reported fan speed issues with the latest 196.75 WHQL drivers on NVIDIA.com. Until we can verify and root cause this issue, we recommend that customers stay with, or return to 196.21 WHQL drivers. Release 196.75 drivers have been temporarily removed from our Web site in the meantime.

Or 267.52 that came in the box with the 590 that OCP protection wasn't working on. While the drivers themselves didn't kill the cards in this case, as you had to over volt the card to fry it.

Still, bad drivers causing issues that could lead to cards dieing, isn't without precedent.

 

[hawtdawg]

My 780 actually did that exact shit the other night on an OC that I know to be stable. It didn't fry my card though.

 

[3DVagabond]

My 780 actually did that exact shit the other night on an OC that I know to be stable. It didn't fry my card though.

There does seem to be issues with this driver. I've been reading the official thread on Geforce forums (not a place I often venture to ) and there are heaps of complaints. The only "card killing" issues I can see seem to be centered around GTX-560/560ti with the occasional GTX-460 sprinkled in.

For peace of mind, I would wait if you haven't updated yet. If you have, and you are experiencing any issues, I think it's pretty safe to assume it's the drivers and roll back to the previous ones you had installed.

 

[toyota]

there might be slightly more issues than usual but really there are always about the same amount of people on the Nvidia forums claiming problems every time a new driver comes out.

 

[ShintaiDK]

Works fine for me and people I know.

 

[Will Robinson]

Is it too early for this?

 

[amenx]

Never noticed anything out of the ordinary with these drivers. There are tens of thousands of card owners, all it needs is 1% of people with issues with them to create a big wave in forums (and usually amplified x10 by those who dont even own Nvidia cards ).

 

[Ibra]

Never noticed anything out of the ordinary with these drivers. There are tens of thousands of card owners, all it needs is 1% of people with issues with them to create a big wave in forums (and usually amplified x10 by those who dont even own Nvidia cards ).

Especially from cocks like Will Robinson.


Given the number of insults, personal attacks, and other infractions, in just a short 133 posts, you're making a great case for "Harvey's Rule." -Admin DrPizza

 

[Lepton87]

Do those drivers really improve performance in Metro Last Light? I could use some more performance in this title. They claim 10% more performance but I'm really skeptical, did someone measure this on a Titan?

 

[wand3r3r]

This thread just demonstrates neither company is beyond driver errors. Period.

 

[3DVagabond]

This thread just demonstrates neither company is beyond driver errors. Period.

No it doesn't. Haven't you been reading? This is just all made up. A few people "making mountains out of molehills" There's nothing to see here. Move along. /sarc

 

[Vesku]

No it doesn't. Haven't you been reading? This is just all made up. A few people "making mountains out of molehills" There's nothing to see here. Move along. /sarc

So all those people seeing artifacts in games with this driver version need to make an emergency appointment with an opthamologist?

 

[Keysplayr]

This thread just demonstrates neither company is beyond driver errors. Period.

No, it doesn't. I mean that is true, neither company is immune, but what this thread really shows is that people will truly believe what they want to believe. And this showing up the same day across multiple forums just shows the AMD Advocacy team just finished a group meeting, high five'd each other and took the internetz by storm.

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