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Mobo for dual core processer

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pkme2

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Yesterday, I was present at lecture where the director @ OSC spoke about his work and he brought up a point that there's really no mobo that can fully exploit the full processing capabilities of the new dual core cpus.

Here on AT, I've seen a lot of threads expounding a wealth of recommendations of getting dual core over the single.

Is there a motherboard that anyone can recommend that will do the job. Thanks!
 
I'm almost entirely sure we can squeeze out the complete performance of a dual core chip. (To the same limitations of a single core chip.) The problem is that software is generally not written to utilize both cores.

Budget: Epox / MSI
Feature Rich Stock: Asus
Overclock: DFI
 
Not sure, I know I can get both cores running at 100% while browsing other things and still have everyting running smooth.
 
Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
I'm going to take a wild guess here and say that Mr. Director doesn't know WTF he's talking about.

- M4H
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His name is Kevin Wohlever, OSC. Director of Springfield Operations.
You can checkout his credentials. kevin@osc.edu
You can now make a better informed quess next time.
 
The mobo doesn't really "utilize" the CPU...as long as it's compatible, it's up to the software you're running to utilize it...
 
Originally posted by: JToxic
Just because he has a title, it doesnt mena he knows what he is talking about.
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For a person who helped develop one of the largest supercomputer systems in USA, I think his computer expertise is well founded. He was formerly with NASA and other agencies; you should goggle his background. His 25+ yrs gives him creedence.

All I wanted to know if there was a mobo out there that really fits the bill. If you know, you can refer me to the source so I can properly research it before I build a dual core rig.

Thanks
 
what do you mean by fully utilize? make the cores run at 100%? i'm pretty sure that's up to the programs and how many of them you run. am i misunderstanding the question?
 
Originally posted by: pkme2
Originally posted by: JToxic
Just because he has a title, it doesnt mena he knows what he is talking about.
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For a person who helped develop one of the largest supercomputer systems in USA, I think his computer expertise is well founded. He was formerly with NASA and other agencies; you should goggle his background. His 25+ yrs gives him creedence.

All I wanted to know if there was a mobo out there that really fits the bill. If you know, you can refer me to the source so I can properly research it before I build a dual core rig.

Thanks
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Did he explain what he meant by it?

I agree with the others, he doesn't know what he's talking about if that's all he said.
 
Since we can max out both cores, and get a reasonably good speed increase going from single core to dual... what else is there? It could propably be done "better", but his statement makes no sense!!!
 
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: pkme2
Originally posted by: JToxic
Just because he has a title, it doesnt mena he knows what he is talking about.
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For a person who helped develop one of the largest supercomputer systems in USA, I think his computer expertise is well founded. He was formerly with NASA and other agencies; you should goggle his background. His 25+ yrs gives him creedence.

All I wanted to know if there was a mobo out there that really fits the bill. If you know, you can refer me to the source so I can properly research it before I build a dual core rig.

Thanks
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Did he explain what he meant by it?

I agree with the others, he doesn't know what he's talking about if that's all he said.
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Or he is one of those people that talk ****** on things they want to own but can't afford? Which I doubt is the case here...
 
Actually it would seem to be the exact opposite. I'm sure if a 3.4GHz stock dual-core chip existed any of my like socketed motherboards would accommodate it.

Maybe he meant for supercomputer usage? World's #6 Cray XT3 with 10880 Opterons seems to be doing just fine...
 
His name is Kevin Wohlever, OSC. Director of Springfield Operations.
You can checkout his credentials. kevin@osc.edu
You can now make a better informed quess next time.
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Very impressive. I still say he doesn't know what he is talking about, and I have a title too.
 
I'm pretty sure this is the problem of hearsay.

The guy said something that, taking into account his credentials is probably correct/valid, and most likely the original poster has either:

a. misquoted
b. quoted out of context

This is exactly why courts dont allow hearsay.
 
Originally posted by: pkme2
Still looking for mobo.
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We don't understand your question. What are you asking? For AMD dualcore get a 939 board; DFI or ASUS are usually very good (and good overclockers) and will fully utilize both cores. I am unsure what the person you are referring is talking about with motherboards not fully utilizing dualcore processors. Is he talking about a NUMA architecture? That will probably be more relevant on a quadcore or Intel dualcore system? Is he talking about concurrent FSB's? That also would be more relevant on a Quadcore (coming late '07) or Intel system.
 
mr computer guy doesnt know what the hell he's talking about. it's not the mobo that's the problem. it's the software. we have mobos out right now that can fully utilize the dual-cores, but its the software that hold its back.
 
Your expert professor guy needs to come visit us in Reality sometime. My dual-core A64 X2 processor chopped my Premiere Elements encoding times in half versus my similarly-clocked single-core A64. Getting the work done in half the time is what counts, regardless of whatever techno-rhetoric he may want to spout. The smoothness of the dual-core processor under heavy loads, even multiple heavy loads at once, indisputably gives a much better end-user experience too.

Mobo is Asus A8N-E, if you just want a suggested mobo. But any equivalent mobo from any other maker would do the same job.
 
It depends on the software, that's why I don't recommend buying dual core yet, it is just not worth it to me at least.

As far as this professor, doesn't seem likely the motherboard is the bottleneck, though I am sure motherboards could be developed better in the future(no duh).

Also, creds don't mean crap, and usually as you move up the ladder you get dumber because you don't have as much hands on knowledge and you don't NEED to know as much.

I am not saying he is dumb or anything, just that he probably read that on an article or something before he made his speech or whatever.

Still.... wtf are you asking? If we recommened mobos for dual core, then go with those...
 
Well, when you talk to those super computer guy, the current stuff on the market is never gonna be good enough.

Does the current corp of dual core mobo works with dual core? absolutely. Do they fully use the capability? well there will always be room for improvement.

I'd say single core mobo probably is ahead of dual core mobo in terms of architecture that takes full advantage of the CPU. When I say that, I mean not just able to run the cpu, but have an efficient architecture to pass the info from cpu to memory, pci/pci-e card, and all other components and vice versa. I say that because mobo/chipset maker have years to work on single core, and the logic is easier to handle than the dual core, just like on the software side.

With 2 cores availabe to the motherboard, I am sure there are more efficient algorithm or logic out there that chipset maker can put into their current product to run the dual core more efficiently, for example passing info to memory faster and handle/queuing multiple request from each core better.

So I think what the guy said makes sense, if you don't just look from the point of view if the mobo can run the CPU at 100% utlization, but if it is able to process all kinds things passed to subsystems on the mobo efficiently.
 
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