MJ verdict reached! NOT GUILTY!!!

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meltdown75

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Reasonable doubt < *

It's getting to the point where the jurors actually need to see videotape of the crime being committed before they can find someone guilty.

Oh well - life goes on... as the morning sun breaks through the drapes in the Jackson bedroom, illuminating the familiar scene of Jesus juice, porno mags, and scantily clad pre-teen boys...
 

Alex

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what a crock!
not guilty on ALL charges??
this has obviously been swayed by something... whatever who cares... those kids are fscked up anyway and MJ is a weirdo and has had his reputation shattered either way too.
 

Pepsei

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Originally posted by: franguinho
what a crock!
not guilty on ALL charges??
this has obviously been swayed by something... whatever who cares... those kids are fscked up anyway and MJ is a weirdo and has had his reputation shattered either way too.

doubtful, he's still very popular in other countries, like child porn friendly Japan and Thailand.
 

CreativeTom

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Originally posted by: Pepsei
Originally posted by: franguinho
what a crock!
not guilty on ALL charges??
this has obviously been swayed by something... whatever who cares... those kids are fscked up anyway and MJ is a weirdo and has had his reputation shattered either way too.

doubtful, he's still very popular in other countries, like child porn friendly Japan and Thailand.


Yeah for some reason they just don't seem to care about any of this overseas, he is still widely popular and will remain so. I think the whole thing is sad, the guy is very strange and probably has done some things to children that I don't even want to think about. The annoying part is the D.A. is so gung-ho to hang MJ (which probably should be done)he built a crap case with not enough evidence and a family that was just trying to profit.
 

forrestroche

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Originally posted by: esun
preponderance of the evidence
n. the greater weight of the evidence required in a civil (non-criminal) lawsuit for the trier of fact (jury or judge without a jury) to decide in favor of one side or the other. This preponderance is based on the more convincing evidence and its probable truth or accuracy, and not on the amount of evidence. Thus, one clearly knowledgeable witness may provide a preponderance of evidence over a dozen witnesses with hazy testimony, or a signed agreement with definite terms may outweigh opinions or speculation about what the parties intended. Preponderance of the evidence is required in a civil case and is contrasted with "beyond a reasonable doubt," which is the more severe test of evidence required to convict in a criminal trial. No matter what the definition stated in various legal opinions, the meaning is somewhat subjective.

In law school we called this "more likely than not."
 

forrestroche

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Originally posted by: esun
Finally, to those claiming that the previous settlement in a similar case against Jackson is damning evidence, I would tend to disagree. Consider, if you were a crazy millionaire that liked children excessively (but non-sexually), but had the awareness (or at least had people around you with the awareness) that your actions with children would be seen as questionable by the common public, wouldn't you rather pay off the accuser than waste time in court? I'm not saying that is necessarily what happened, but I would argue that is about as likely as him actually paying somebody off to keep quiet because of guilt.

As a matter of common sense (as opposed to a matter of law), it IS damning evidence. Jackson can affored competent counsel, who would have known that paying off "nuisance" suits makes you a magnet for fraudulent litigation. If there was nothing to that suit and his counsel was competent (we can probably assume this was true), then we can also assume that he would have fought that suit even if the litigation was more expensive than a settlement (it usually is).

 

forrestroche

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Originally posted by: CreativeTom
The annoying part is the D.A. is so gung-ho to hang MJ (which probably should be done)he built a crap case with not enough evidence and a family that was just trying to profit.
I think you should take over as Los Angeles District Attorney - in fact you should have had the job all along - clearly YOU wouldn't have lost this case.

 

PlatinumGold

Lifer
Aug 11, 2000
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Originally posted by: z0mb13
Originally posted by: ElFenix
i guess he really is white.

wrong! he really is black!

scott peterson = white = toast

oj = mj = black = walk free

:D:D

what about Rae Carruth? was he white? what about Robert Black was he black?

:roll:
 

isasir

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Aug 8, 2000
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Originally posted by: franguinho
what a crock!
not guilty on ALL charges??
this has obviously been swayed by something... whatever who cares... those kids are fscked up anyway and MJ is a weirdo and has had his reputation shattered either way too.

Well the jurors absolutely hated the mother of the child in this case. It's possible that they hated her so much that they didn't even want to convict Michael of some of the lesser charges.
 

apologetic

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Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
Originally posted by: z0mb13
Originally posted by: ElFenix
i guess he really is white.

wrong! he really is black!

scott peterson = white = toast

oj = mj = black = walk free

:D:D

what about Rae Carruth? was he white? what about Robert Black was he black?

:roll:


It's not about race, it's about money.
 

PlatinumGold

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Aug 11, 2000
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Originally posted by: meltdown75
Reasonable doubt < *

It's getting to the point where the jurors actually need to see videotape of the crime being committed before they can find someone guilty.

Oh well - life goes on... as the morning sun breaks through the drapes in the Jackson bedroom, illuminating the familiar scene of Jesus juice, porno mags, and scantily clad pre-teen boys...

actually, i've heard that many of the jurors felt MJ molested other kids in the past but they were supposed to judge him ONLY on the evidence regarding this one victim. to me this victim and his mother were not at all credible. their past experience at JC Pennys also works against them as it definitely shows a pattern of behavior.

if it had been another victim and parents that came forward against jackson i might have believed them, this "victim" and mother, i'm not so sure of.

and as compuwiz1 said, any parent that leaves their kids overnight at MJ's house is just as guilty as MJ. they are just basically prostituting their kids for money.
 

PlatinumGold

Lifer
Aug 11, 2000
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Originally posted by: apologetic
Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
Originally posted by: z0mb13
Originally posted by: ElFenix
i guess he really is white.

wrong! he really is black!

scott peterson = white = toast

oj = mj = black = walk free

:D:D

what about Rae Carruth? was he white? what about Robert Black was he black?

:roll:


It's not about race, it's about money.


really? so rae carruth went to jail because he had no money?

oh btw, Bill Clinton was found Guilty and he was both white and rich. ;)
 

JackBurton

Lifer
Jul 18, 2000
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Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
Originally posted by: apologetic
Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
Originally posted by: z0mb13
Originally posted by: ElFenix
i guess he really is white.

wrong! he really is black!

scott peterson = white = toast

oj = mj = black = walk free

:D:D

what about Rae Carruth? was he white? what about Robert Black was he black?

:roll:


It's not about race, it's about money.


really? so rae carruth went to jail because he had no money?

oh btw, Bill Clinton was found Guilty and he was both white and rich. ;)

Bill Clinton was found guilty of what?
 

PlatinumGold

Lifer
Aug 11, 2000
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Originally posted by: JackBurton
Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
Originally posted by: apologetic
Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
Originally posted by: z0mb13
Originally posted by: ElFenix
i guess he really is white.

wrong! he really is black!

scott peterson = white = toast

oj = mj = black = walk free

:D:D

what about Rae Carruth? was he white? what about Robert Black was he black?

:roll:


It's not about race, it's about money.


really? so rae carruth went to jail because he had no money?

oh btw, Bill Clinton was found Guilty and he was both white and rich. ;)

Bill Clinton was found guilty of what?


he was impeached because he abused his power in the white house by attempting to lie about his relationship with lewinsky.

you could say he was found guilty of perjury.
 

herkulease

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Originally posted by: meltdown75
Reasonable doubt < *

It's getting to the point where the jurors actually need to see videotape of the crime being committed before they can find someone guilty.

I don't think so. I can bet that even in the scott peterson trial if you had a tape of laci being murdered by some else they'd still say he's guilty only because the media circus made laci out to be this perfect small town girl, so happy to have a baby and scott to be this player. though the judge would have it thrown out but if he didn't.

I'm amazed nothing has been looked into why the 1st jury foreman the lawyer/doctor suddenly requested to be let off the jury, it took 3 days to get to that point, after he was removed they came back in 1 day. those people had their minds made up from day one.

as for this case the people's history was so crap I don't know what the prosecutor was thinking bring this case forward with these people. I have greater belief something happened in 1994 kid than this. They had countless opportunities to get help from law enforcement but just on going like nothings wrong.

the funniest was the mom, she believed michael could make her float away in a hot air ballon.

 

Miramonti

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Aug 26, 2000
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Originally posted by: isasir
Originally posted by: franguinho
what a crock!
not guilty on ALL charges??
this has obviously been swayed by something... whatever who cares... those kids are fscked up anyway and MJ is a weirdo and has had his reputation shattered either way too.

Well the jurors absolutely hated the mother of the child in this case. It's possible that they hated her so much that they didn't even want to convict Michael of some of the lesser charges.

I suspect that is the real tragedy. The mom used her child as a tool to get millions, or the child was molested but noone believed him because his mom is such a tool. :(
 

Mayfriday0529

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It's funny how MJ's attorney is stating that after the acquittal, MJ won't let kids in his bedroom anymore.

Jeez dude just give it up, don't let kids near your place and parents don't bring your kids over.
 

herkulease

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Jul 6, 2001
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Originally posted by: Jnetty99
It's funny how MJ's attorney is stating that after the acquittal, MJ won't let kids in his bedroom anymore.

Jeez dude just give it up, don't let kids near your place and parents don't bring your kids over.

he should just not let anyone into his neverland ranch at all except family and extremely close friends.

I remember reading he often opens of the place for and hosts events for the community there with food and drinks for everyone

I hope his family tells him to just stop doing that and close your door for good. No more buying stuff for people adults children enither, no more charities involving children, like physically being there just sign and check or heck don't even do that, since someone might find ways. simply go out to public do his thing, sing dance, and go home and close door. live an isolated life beyond work and raise his kids.

his ranch is pretty much out of nowhere and oh from the pictures yesterday about 10 minutes or so from main roads. so it should be hard
 

IHYLN

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Aug 4, 2000
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I can't believe you guys made this a sticky..

folks, you are a joke. MJ != world. Welcome to life.
 

PHiuR

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Apr 24, 2001
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MJ is a freak. and he prob did "play" with the kids...just like OJ diddnt kill his wife...