Mitt Romney is running for Senate in Utah

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Phokus

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Good, he seems like a standup and principled guy and the Senate could use more with his character even if you disagree with his politics. A race with two honorable people in it like Obama-McCain or Obama-Romney almost seems quaint nowadays.

Is he really honorable? He stood up to Trump in 2016, but now he's happily accepting his endorsement. Might as well call Romney "Reek"
 

glenn1

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Is he really honorable? He stood up to Trump in 2016, but now he's happily accepting his endorsement. Might as well call Romney "Reek"

I wasn't aware of the endorsement. I wonder why Romney accepted it given it's (A) probably not helpful in gaining votes, (B) hardly needed given his likelihood to win and (C) the baggage associated with the endorsement seems like a bigger long term problem that he's willingly taken on for little gain.
 

Ichinisan

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Lots of senators run for president anyway. It seems like being a senator would make someone statistically more likely to run for president.
 

Ichinisan

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I wasn't aware of the endorsement. I wonder why Romney accepted it given it's (A) probably not helpful in gaining votes, (B) hardly needed given his likelihood to win and (C) the baggage associated with the endorsement seems like a bigger long term problem that he's willingly taken on for little gain.
How does one reject or decline an endorsement?
 

glenn1

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How does one reject or decline an endorsement?

You issue a statement disavowing it. Here's an example and you can find many more and perhaps better examples since Trump is hardly the first candidate I would have picked.

The Trump campaign was quick to denounce the publication, issuing this statement Tuesday night: “Mr. Trump and the campaign denounces hate in any form. This publication is repulsive and their views do not represent the tens of millions of Americans who are uniting behind our campaign.”
 

Moonbeam

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A cute little bit of religious bigotry there Moonie.
Did I mention Kolob? Jesus, I'd rather have Trump. A stupid narcissist is much to be preferred to a cunning one. What about the 47% thing failed to tell you he views nearly half of Americans with utter contempt and wants to use the other half to put himself in the history books. It's all about him and his self driven ambition. Play it safe. Drop Romney and buy yourself a bottle of Mr. Clean. The whole reason Mormonism exists was to have sex with lots of young girls. Wake the fuck up.
 
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After Donald v. Hilary it seems quaint to have a campaign with even one honorable person in it.
But on second thought....he did drive around with the family dog on top of his car during a vacation 35 years ago. That really, really taints him for me.
 

hal2kilo

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Thank God Repubs and right wing media NEVER do that.
Spicy mustard, etc.
lol

Edit: It really must suck to get dished back at you what your favored news outlets have done to the Clintons for the last twenty years or so.
 
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Moonbeam

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My point is to show you just how low democrats and the media will go to attack the character of a man for purely political reasons. No nit is too small.
You have a point. He put the dog on the roof of the car, not one of his kids. A monster with discrimination makes for good politics, the kind that should never be questioned. So I guess we can leave politics out of the question and just focus on the fact he's a dick, or at least 47% of him. Is there a pill I can take to prevent the gag reflex?
 

emperus

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My point is to show you just how low democrats and the media will go to attack the character of a man for purely political reasons. No nit is too small.

And how did you show me that? The man put his family pet on the roof of his car. I'm not a pet person, but that does give a certain insight into the man.
And you had two people running, Obama and Romney. Who was the better choice? If it were Romney and Grab them by the Pussy, who do you think would have won.
 
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And how did you show me that? The man put his family pet on the roof of his car. I'm not a pet person, but that does give a certain insight into the man.
And you had two people running, Obama and Romney. Who was the better choice? If it were Romney and Grab them by the Pussy, who do you think would have won.
Whoosh.
 

Moonbeam

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Your perspective is colored by your conception of nit pick and political, your unconscious bias as to what drives Romney criticism. For me the signs are obvious Romney is a self righteous piece of shit who would be dangerous politically. My criticisms are purely altruistic with the only purpose to save the country from Romney blindness indifference and ignorance. See how that works?
 
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IronWing

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Meh, my problem with Romney is that any sense of empathy he might feel is not reflected in his conduct. As a vulture capitalist, he gutted companies and bankrupted pension plans to his own enrichment.
 

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Your perspective is colored by your conception of nit pick and political, your unconscious bias as to what drives Romney criticism. For me the signs are obvious Romney is a self righteous piece of shit who would be dangerous politically. My criticisms are purely altruistic with the only purpose to save the country from Romney blindness indifference and ignorance. See how that works?
Being highly imperfect, I'm not particularly appreciative of being reminded of such by my "moral superiors". I just happen to have empathy for the lowest, self-righteous, pieces of shit among us...those who don't stack up to your lofty moral expectations...I am not even remotely close to being as good as you are. See how that works?
 

Moonbeam

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Being highly imperfect, I'm not particularly appreciative of being reminded of such by my "moral superiors". I just happen to have empathy for the lowest, self-righteous, pieces of shit among us...those who don't stack up to your lofty moral expectations...I am not even remotely close to being as good as you are. See how that works?
Now now, in your state of moral imperfection you shouldn't be so quick to think you know who your moral superiors are.

How do you justify, if I may ask, going after my morality. Do you think it's my fault I see more spirituality in dogs than in some men? I count dogs as man's best friends. I know what it is to be loved by a being that can feel empathy for the lowest, self-righteous, pieces of shit among us, and I would never put such a being on the roof of my car.

Judge not that you not be judged is one danger of judgment, Another is not exercising it when dolling out respect. I do not respect Romney. He lacks the depth you have because you have suffered and for him it's been all down hill. He is everything there is to being the entitled one percent. Sorry about being a bigot.
 

Jhhnn

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Meh, my problem with Romney is that any sense of empathy he might feel is not reflected in his conduct. As a vulture capitalist, he gutted companies and bankrupted pension plans to his own enrichment.

Job Creator! And a member in good standing of the hedge fund lootocracy. His exploits are legend.
 
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Now now, in your state of moral imperfection you shouldn't be so quick to think you know who your moral superiors are.
My moral superiors aren't shy about declaring their superiority...and even in their favorable judgment...I see them.

Judge not that you not be judged is one danger of judgment, Another is not exercising it when dolling out respect. I do not respect Romney. He lacks the depth you have because you have suffered and for him it's been all down hill. He is everything there is to being the entitled one percent. Sorry about being a bigot.
Judgment aside....I somehow can't rationalize bigotry as easily as others it seems.
 

Moonbeam

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My moral superiors aren't shy about declaring their superiority...and even in their favorable judgment...I see them.


Judgment aside....I somehow can't rationalize bigotry as easily as others it seems.
Surely there is somewhere between moral bigotry and moral apathy.

Moral superiority and inferiority are the creation of dualistic thinking, the comparisons brought on by thinking. What we think is a product of the language we have learned. What we have experienced is our conditioning. I was taught ten thousand pounds of cabbage was sacred under pain of death which means one has to die to escape it. We are prisoners only of fear. To lose is to win. It is pain that creates empathy.

We are living in a time when the Republican party is actively supporting a catastrophe for President. The political and moral values that would support Republicans as they are this minute should be politically destroyed. It is a moral imperative that happen.

Of course if morality mattered we would not need to nit pick or point for the sake of politics. People would just naturally vomit when Romney showed his face.