Mitt Romney is running for Senate in Utah

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bshole

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I wasn't aware of the endorsement. I wonder why Romney accepted it given it's (A) probably not helpful in gaining votes, (B) hardly needed given his likelihood to win and (C) the baggage associated with the endorsement seems like a bigger long term problem that he's willingly taken on for little gain.

Doesn't Trump have like an 87% favorability rating with Republican voters? If that is true, of course Romney is going to accept his endorsement.
 

realibrad

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Doesn't Trump have like an 87% favorability rating with Republican voters? If that is true, of course Romney is going to accept his endorsement.

Don't know how accurate this is.

Among other national polls, Republicans have largely shown great support for Trump despite his many controversies. But only 40 percent of GOP voters strongly approved of his work, with 35 percent somewhat approving. Six percent of Republicans strongly disapproved, and 10 percent somewhat approved. Nine percent were neutral.

http://www.newsweek.com/trump-base-republicans-approval-rating-785412
 

bshole

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Hard to fathom that polls would be off by that much. Among Republican voters, he may be one of the most popular Presidents of all time right now. He is obviously the least popular among Democratic voters. Mark this down as a win for corporations and the 1%.

“Although it is impossible to determine definitively whether the address was a factor in the approval ratings uptick, his approval among Republicans did rise to 90%, the highest rating from this group since he took office,” Gallup’s Frank Newport writes. “Republicans’ approval had been at 87% the week before the speech. Democrats’ approval remained extremely low at 6% last week, while independents’ 33% approval was unchanged.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...nd-the-party-is-trump/?utm_term=.2a285256a8fe
 

realibrad

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mect

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And how did you show me that? The man put his family pet on the roof of his car. I'm not a pet person, but that does give a certain insight into the man.
And you had two people running, Obama and Romney. Who was the better choice? If it were Romney and Grab them by the Pussy, who do you think would have won.
What? I never understood the issue with this. They attached an enclosed crate to the roof of their car. How is this any different than a dog riding in the bed of a pickup, which I observe every single day? I'm no fan of Romney, I didn't vote for him in 2012, and wouldn't in 2020 (unless he was running against Trump), but the whole pet thing was just silly to me.
 

Jhhnn

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What? I never understood the issue with this. They attached an enclosed crate to the roof of their car. How is this any different than a dog riding in the bed of a pickup, which I observe every single day? I'm no fan of Romney, I didn't vote for him in 2012, and wouldn't in 2020 (unless he was running against Trump), but the whole pet thing was just silly to me.

Taj brought it up as a diversion.

Barring some truly strange turn of events, Mitt will take Utah. He's their kind of conservative. Better him than somebody like Cruz or some others.
 
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Taj brought it up as a diversion.

Barring some truly strange turn of events, Mitt will take Utah. He's their kind of conservative. Better him than somebody like Cruz or some others.
Another one of your lies about me. It was brought up by DSF in post #34.
 
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Surely there is somewhere between moral bigotry and moral apathy.

Moral superiority and inferiority are the creation of dualistic thinking, the comparisons brought on by thinking. What we think is a product of the language we have learned. What we have experienced is our conditioning. I was taught ten thousand pounds of cabbage was sacred under pain of death which means one has to die to escape it. We are prisoners only of fear. To lose is to win. It is pain that creates empathy.

We are living in a time when the Republican party is actively supporting a catastrophe for President. The political and moral values that would support Republicans as they are this minute should be politically destroyed. It is a moral imperative that happen.

Of course if morality mattered we would not need to nit pick or point for the sake of politics. People would just naturally vomit when Romney showed his face.
Moral bigotry vs. moral apathy is a false dichotomy imo. Applying a moral standard to oneself is much different than judgmentally applying your moral standard to others as if the nuances of your morality somehow trumps theirs. If the dog was not harmed, who are you to judge that he would have been much happier at a kennel instead of with the family? You judge Romney to be cruel...which leaves one to wonder how the family dog would judge you.
 

Moonbeam

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Moral bigotry vs. moral apathy is a false dichotomy imo. Applying a moral standard to oneself is much different than judgmentally applying your moral standard to others as if the nuances of your morality somehow trumps theirs. If the dog was not harmed, who are you to judge that he would have been much happier at a kennel instead of with the family? You judge Romney to be cruel...which leaves one to wonder how the family dog would judge you.
Damn it. When I told you I despise Mitt Romney that should have told you all you needed to know. The only thing I could react to like that about him has to be that something about him reminds me of something I despise about myself. I am pretty sure it's his moral arrogance and moral sense of his own superiority and its actual existence nowhere else but in his opinion. And the thing that bothered me about the dog wasn't its placement on the roof but the fact that a guy with his kind of money didn't buy a bigger vehicle to go on vacation with.