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Missouri Police Officer guns down unarmed 18 year old

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HomerJS said:
Another fake story put out by police
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Wow mass reading comprehension fail - I am guilty to often, just saying.

I think Humble made a error from NO to NOW.

because the link says NO

Originally Posted by HumblePie View Post
Well not sure if anyone else put this here, but this new report came out saying that there was now orbital blowout or any other serious injury to Officer Wilson.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...tercation.html
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or maybe I missed something lol
 
I'll just leave this here...

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Druidx said:
I don’t recall seeing any sprinter starting blocks in the video previously posted.
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Why would you need starter blocks to be in that position? That's a leaning running position most commonly used in things like sprinting or bum rushing someone you plan to tackle.
 
soundforbjt said:
Yes, if it just wasn't for those pesky eyewitnesses....😉
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What, all of those pesky eye witnesses that backup the cop's side of the story? There's a few "eye witnesses" (some with questionable integrity) that jumped in front of the camera to explain what they saw. Then there's those who quietly went to the police.
 
Yeah, like the unknowing recorded eye witness that clearly stated that Brown was coming back at Wilson rather than Brown standing with hands up and Wilson running at him shooting.

http://www.ijreview.com/2014/08/168...tail-background-video-mins-ferguson-shooting/

#2 Then the next thing I know he doubled back toward him cus - the police had his gun drawn already on him –

#2 The police kept dumpin on him, and I’m thinking the police kept missing – he like – be like – but he kept coming toward him
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TechBoyJK said:
What, all of those pesky eye witnesses that backup the cop's side of the story? There's a few "eye witnesses" (some with questionable integrity) that jumped in front of the camera to explain what they saw. Then there's those who quietly went to the police.
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And the guy in the background of one video saying he headed back towards the cop.

One post up.
 
Of course Brown *could have* been rushing Wilson, this is the most likely reason Wilson would have used lethal force.

It is possible but unlikely (hope this is absurdly obvious to those who think Wilson killed Brown in cold blood) that Wilson shot Brown while Brown surrendered and posed no obvious threat. Wilson would have had to have done this with full and immediate awareness that at least one eye witness was watching the whole thing happen.

I'm not saying the unlikelihood of something happening means it didn't happen (far from it), but the unlikelihood of something happening is going to draw skepticism from anyone thinking about this case critically.

This is part of why we see some folks compelled to post stories on the PD, the story from Johnson is more believable if the their is history of gross corruption or criminal negligence in the Ferguson PD.


Regarding eyewitness accounts describing murder of Brown. Are these touching on what they saw Johnson do after the car encounter and is that matching Johnson's version of what he himself did?
 
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TechBoyJK said:
What, all of those pesky eye witnesses that backup the cop's side of the story? There's a few "eye witnesses" (some with questionable integrity) that jumped in front of the camera to explain what they saw. Then there's those who quietly went to the police.
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When/If we actually get to "see" the statements made by those "dozen", so far imaginary witnesses, you may have a point.
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soundforbjt said:
Yes, if it just wasn't for those pesky eyewitnesses....
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The thing is eye witnesses can be inaccurate. Not out of malice but it is entirely possible for different witnesses to see entirely different things or not notice details simply because of their state of mind.

http://www.theinvisiblegorilla.com/gorilla_experiment.html

Imagine you are asked to watch a short video (above) in which six people-three in white shirts and three in black shirts-pass basketballs around. While you watch, you must keep a silent count of the number of passes made by the people in white shirts. At some point, a gorilla strolls into the middle of the action, faces the camera and thumps its chest, and then leaves, spending nine seconds on screen. Would you see the gorilla?

Almost everyone has the intuition that the answer is "yes, of course I would." How could something so obvious go completely unnoticed? But when we did this experiment at Harvard University several years ago, we found that half of the people who watched the video and counted the passes missed the gorilla. It was as though the gorilla was invisible.
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It's we need more evidence that may have not been completely processed yet or for some other reason have been made public and for the witnesses who saw Michael Brown charging need to give statements to authorities even if they are unwilling to identify themselves.

Because, apparently unless some information that has come out after I last paid attention to the shooting, the very fact that they're not identified raises questions about people phoning in false tips.

Personally I think that it's still too early to say "This happened police brutality!" Or "That happened thug felon got what he deserved!"


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TechBoyJK said:
Why would you need starter blocks to be in that position? That's a leaning running position most commonly used in things like sprinting or bum rushing someone you plan to tackle.
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Just commenting on the picture used. Talk to spidey, he's the one who posted it.
 
TerryMathews said:
Do you think the clothing is imaginary as well? I mean, its not released either...
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We "know" the witnesses siding with the officer exist based on a single reporter who made such claims. Absolutely not credible seeing as no authorities have validated her claim.

Rumors of witnesses amount to nothing.
 
Attic said:
Of course Brown *could have* been rushing Wilson, this is the most likely reason Wilson would have used lethal force.

It is possible but unlikely (hope this is absurdly obvious to those who think Wilson killed Brown in cold blood) that Wilson shot Brown while Brown surrendered and posed no obvious threat. Wilson would have had to have done this with full and immediate awareness that at least one eye witness was watching the whole thing happen.

I'm not saying the unlikelihood of something happening means it didn't happen (far from it), but the unlikelihood of something happening is going to draw skepticism from anyone thinking about this case critically.

This is part of why we see some folks compelled to post stories on the PD, the story from Johnson is more believable if the their is history of gross corruption or criminal negligence in the Ferguson PD.


Regarding eyewitness accounts describing murder of Brown. Are these touching on what they saw Johnson do after the car encounter and is that matching Johnson's version of what he himself did?
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Or it could be like this shooting on Tuesday from a few miles away.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/21/us/st-louis-police-shooting/index.html?iref=allsearch
 
blankslate said:
The thing is eye witnesses can be inaccurate. Not out of malice but it is entirely possible for different witnesses to see entirely different things or not notice details simply because of their state of mind.

http://www.theinvisiblegorilla.com/gorilla_experiment.html



It's we need more evidence that may have not been completely processed yet or for some other reason have been made public and for the witnesses who saw Michael Brown charging need to give statements to authorities even if they are unwilling to identify themselves.

Because, apparently unless some information that has come out after I last paid attention to the shooting, the very fact that they're not identified raises questions about people phoning in false tips.

Personally I think that it's still too early to say "This happened police brutality!" Or "That happened thug felon got what he deserved!"


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I'm well aware that eyewitnesses can be very mistaken about what they think they see, which is why a video would be the best evidence. But one witness is valid in the eyes of many of the posters here, only because he backs up the officer's account. They believe that witness and dismiss all the others, why do you think that is the case?
 
soundforbjt said:
When/If we actually get to "see" the statements made by those "dozen", so far imaginary witnesses, you may have a point.
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Lying to a news camera doesn't quite carry with it the same punishment as lying to police investigators. Since we don't have testimonies/statements to police, the witnesses might as well be imaginary too.

Basically, statements made to the cameras aren't really very credible.
 
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xBiffx said:
Lying to a news camera does quite carry with it the same punishment as lying to police investigators. Since we don't have testimonies/statements to police, the witnesses might as well be imaginary too.

Basically, statements made to the cameras aren't really very credible.
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The one that backs up the officer's claims isn't even on camera, only a voice in the background.
 
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