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Missouri Police Officer guns down unarmed 18 year old

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Aaaaaaaaaaaaannnd the hearts of the collective race-baiters all across America fell in to their stomach with this newest information.

The kid didn't deserve to lose his life, but my guesstimate is that 94.3% of America lost their sympathy for the kid when they find out he was your run of the mill punk dirtbag.
 
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What purpose is served by releasing the name of the cop?

CitizenKain said:
What purpose is served by not?
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It can tell us a lot about the officer. Is there a history of police abuse by this officer? Has this officer been reprimanded for excessive force? Does he belong to the KKK?? I mean there is a lot of information that can be found out once we know who the shooter is.

His (the cop) name is out now, so at some point someone will eventually find his photo online and post it. So pretty much the news media is already digging for info on this cop. It will come out eventually.
 
HTFOff said:
Aaaaaaaaaaaaannnd the hearts of the collective race-baiters all across America fell in to their stomach with this newest information.

The kid didn't deserve to lose his life, but my guesstimate is that 94.3% of America lost their sympathy for the kid when they find out he was your run of the mill punk dirtbag.
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People lost sympathy for the kid a lot earlier then that when they found it he was black. For most of america, that is all that matters.
 
HumblePie said:
As long as death threats are being made then for as long as needed. So I do agree with not releasing the officers name still at this point. It is a valid safety concern.
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They released his name already.. so its done. He is a fucking officer, so please, officers know that their lives are always in danger..that is the job they signed up for. So I don't buy that this was the reason for holding back his name.
 
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Oldgamer said:
So pretty much the news media is already digging for info on this cop.
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They already were. We the people do not deserve to know his name because there's nothing we should do with it until he gets his day in court. It's like people have learned nothing from the last few high profile public outrage motivated court cases.
 
Oldgamer said:
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What purpose is served by releasing the name of the cop?



It can tell us a lot about the officer. Is there a history of police abuse by this officer? Has this officer been reprimanded for excessive force? Does he belong to the KKK?? I mean there is a lot of information that can be found out once we know who the shooter is.

His (the cop) name is out now, so at some point someone will eventually find his photo online and post it. So pretty much the news media is already digging for info on this cop. It will come out eventually.
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Police Chief stated in his news conference he had no record of any disciplinary action; i know that doesn't fit your agenda here but oh well
 
Knowing said:
They already were. We the people do not deserve to know his name because there's nothing we should do with it until he gets his day in court. It's like people have learned nothing from the last few high profile public outrage motivated court cases.
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Oh really? So its ok to claim that was Michael Brown stealing cigars and crucify him in the media before anyone knows for certain that was in fact him?? They said he fit the description but that the pictures didn't look exactly like him. He was suspected, Michael Brown didn't get his day in court now did he? He had all of his info displayed out there by the police while hiding the police officers info. Thats Bullshit.
 
If they release the name it likely quells some of the hysteria about all the questionable behavior from the Law in this case.

If they don't release it, it confirms some fears about the Law acting selectively to protect itself at the expense of citizens (cover up)

I thought they should have released it, but after finding out about the Robbery, I can see where there might have been a desire to let more facts get out ahead of the release of the officers name.

The PD should have been up front from the start.
"Brown was suspected of involvement in a robbery before officers (reveal name) response to this robbery. Officer came up on Brown who fit the description, an altercation ensued leading to the death of Mr. Brown. We are going to investigate and will issue daily updates of information as we recieve it.

I think the lack of facts pushed this further over the top, rather than an abundance of facts pushing people over the edge.

Then don't bring Military in to suppress protests.
 
Sinsear said:
Police Chief stated in his news conference he had no record of any disciplinary action; i know that doesn't fit your agenda here but oh well
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At this point I don't believe anything that comes out of that police department. They are trying to cover their ass, and moving at a snails pace bungling things on purpose as they go.
 
Oldgamer said:
At this point I don't believe anything that comes out of that police department. They are trying to cover their ass, and moving at a snails pace bungling things on purpose as they go.
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You're so special! You don't believe what police say regardless of the situation.
 
bshole said:
Damn, the kid was a thug. What the fuck is wrong with the police department not releasing this before? Good god, why in the hell would they hold onto this while the city burns? The kid just committed a felony ON camera and the cops don't release it. Makes utterly no sense whatsoever.
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Active investigation? Cops are bound by rules re: evidence release.
 
Oldgamer said:
He was suspected, Michael Brown didn't get his day in court now did he? Thats Bullshit.
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No, he didn't. We'll find out when the officer goes to court whether the shooting was justified. It isn't bullshit that the victim's name came out because the victim's name almost always comes out. It also isn't bullshit that his name has been dragged through the mud because he's not going to be on trial.

The jurors will get the stories about what happened that day and it's up to them to be objective. They can't be objective if the same community that was driven to riots and looting decides that they can dispense justice more efficiently than our legal system. After all, accidents have happened. It actually happens quite a bit.
 
Oldgamer said:
Oh really? So its ok to claim that was Michael Brown stealing cigars and crucify him in the media before anyone knows for certain that was in fact him?? They said he fit the description but that the pictures didn't look exactly like him. He was suspected, Michael Brown didn't get his day in court now did he? He had all of his info displayed out there by the police while hiding the police officers info. Thats Bullshit.
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This is not about Brown being guilty or not. It's about him matching the description of a suspect involved in a recent robbery in the area which would help explain why Brown was stopped in the first place.
 
Oldgamer said:
Oh really? So its ok to claim that was Michael Brown stealing cigars and crucify him in the media before anyone knows for certain that was in fact him?? They said he fit the description but that the pictures didn't look exactly like him. He was suspected, Michael Brown didn't get his day in court now did he? He had all of his info displayed out there by the police while hiding the police officers info. Thats Bullshit.
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You just did the same damn thing to the police officer...🙄
 
CitizenKain said:
No, you are inventing this giant narrative how its perfectly ok that he was shot multiple times in the street, simply because he might have robbed a convenience store.

Meanwhile, the actual person who used a gun to end another person's life was protected. It took days to get the name of this cop. People protesting were met with force. The police had the right, and the responsibility to make this not happen, and they fucked it up at every chance, and people like you blame the victim, and blame the people stand up for them, simply because you feel they should be held to higher standard then someone who kills a kid.

For fucks sake, you blame Johnson and his "agenda" after watching his friend shot down in the street like an animal. But the police "agenda" of not releasing the name of the cop, oh well.


Always some idiot who stands up for police at every chance.
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That cop was protected because the community who was rallying around their supposedly innocent angel Brown was also threatening to kill the officer.

You put yourself in the shoes of that officer. Whether you were negligent in your actions or not, you deserve to have your day in court and not allow vigilante justice based on potentially bad narrative from that community threaten you or your family.

There is bad narrative of this on the internet and bad narrative coming from that community in Ferguson itself.

Hardly anyone disagrees that Brown may have been shot while being in a submissive posture and hardly anyone disagrees that if that is the case, the officer should be charged.

We are free to our own opinions however that if a person commits a felony and is killed while the police attempt to detain or question them for it - then they alone set into motion what happened to them. Doesn't make his shooting right, pending the full story and people on the witness stand. It just means if he hadn't strong armed that clerk, he's be alive right fucking now.
 
CitizenKain said:
People lost sympathy for the kid a lot earlier then that when they found it he was black. For most of america, that is all that matters.
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idiotic statement. "most of America" dont give a shit he is black. granted a lot of idiots do.

if "most" of america were that way this wouldn't have made the news.

LTC8K6 said:
The only thing in doubt here is where Brown was shot, imo. And the coroner will know the truth about that.

If Brown was shot near the car and then ran and fell. Case closed. The officer's story combined with the robbery being the reason for the stop, and the shots occurring near the car, are enough to keep the officer out of jail.

If Brown ran first, and then was shot and killed, that would be bad news for the cop. he would be guilty of a felony murder. Not murder one, though.
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/this is how i view it.

the report is going to be big.
 
Oldgamer said:
They released his name already.. so its done. He is a fucking officer, so please, officers know that their lives are always in danger..that is the job they signed up for. So I don't buy that this was the reason for holding back his name.
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Lots of anger inside of you. Please do tell us the story of why Oldgamer has a deep hatred of police officers, one that goes far beyond this current situation.
 
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