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Mississippi down to one abortion clinic

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Texashiker said:
That the mothers choice if the wants to have a back alley abortion. Chances are nobody is going to make her do it.

Stand up and take responsibility for your actions.
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Stop avoiding responsibility for the consequences of the laws you advocate.

The laws you want to have do not decrease abortions, but increase deaths among mothers. Justify this.
 
boomerang said:
If our entitlement state is to continue, our country needs more warm bodies to cover the costs. We have a choice of growing our own or importing Mexicans.

On another note, Obamacare has brought free contraception to the masses. There should be an enormous drop in demand for abortion in the nation. Obama told us that Obamacare is working the way it should. Abortion should quickly become a thing of the past.
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Are you suggesting that nobody has ever gotten pregnant while using contraceptives? :hmm:
 
eskimospy said:
No, it's that if you make a law banning something that does zero to reduce it
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Based on your comparison of Brazil to the United States. Because obviously there is no difference between the 2 countries other than their abortion laws :hmm:

eskimospy said:
while causing a lot more deaths in the process, it's a stupid law. All you need to be able to do to figure this is add. (and maybe set aside any pathological hatred of women you might have)
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Not if the people dying are murderers. A murderer dying in the process of committing murder isn't a tragedy. Its justice.
 
nehalem256 said:
Based on your comparison of Brazil to the United States. Because obviously there is no difference between the 2 countries other than their abortion laws :hmm:
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It's almost like someone did a big study about this and I linked to it. Dumbass.

Not if the people dying are murderers. A murderer dying in the process of committing murder isn't a tragedy. Its justice.
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Says the guy who said that the state should arrest women and forcibly abort their children instead of having people support it.
 
Abortion = murder (thou shall not kill)
Capital Punishment = ok! (thou shall not kill, except when you shall)
Cognitive dissonance = DING DING DING


Your welcome.
 
eskimospy said:
Stop avoiding responsibility for the consequences of the laws you advocate.

The laws you want to have do not decrease abortions, but increase deaths among mothers. Justify this.
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Stop avoiding responsibility for your actions.

If women would accept responsibility, the state would not have to pass laws restricting abortion.

Why are child support laws so strict? Because for decades men refused to support the children they created. So the states enacted laws to force the father to take responsibility.

Restricting abortion is no different than strict child support laws.

The women made a choice. Now deal with it.
 
nehalem256 said:
Abortion is murder. A murderer dying in the process of committing murder is justice.

Justice is a good thing.
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Ah, so your justification for a policy that does nothing to reduce the problem you are trying to solve but makes more people die while doing it is that death is what they deserve so this is actually a good thing. Not only is that not justice by any modern standard, but your bloodlust is disgusting.

Your pathological hatred of women is really shining through here.
 
eskimospy said:
Ah, so your justification for a policy that does nothing to reduce the problem you are trying to solve
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Proof it does NOTHING that doesn't come from comparing 2 drastically different countries?

eskimospy said:
but makes more people die while doing it is that death is what they deserve so this is actually a good thing. Not only is that not justice by any modern standard, but your bloodlust is disgusting.
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Justice is a good thing.

Why do you hate justice?
 
eskimospy said:
Stop avoiding responsibility for the consequences of the laws you advocate.

The laws you want to have do not decrease abortions, but increase deaths among mothers. Justify this.
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No no no eskimo.

Better to ignore the realities of a situation and cling to one's cherished beliefs while ignoring the consequences of those beliefs.
 
Texashiker said:
Stop avoiding responsibility for your actions.

If women would accept responsibility, the state would not have to pass laws restricting abortion.

Why are child support laws so strict? Because for decades men refused to support the children they created. So the states enacted laws to force the father to take responsibility.

Restricting abortion is no different than strict child support laws.

The women made a choice. Now deal with it.
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Does this continued dancing mean you will refuse to justify your actions? It's funny that you talk about responsibility but then refuse to even address the responsibility you would share for enacting a policy that leads to so many deaths without doing anything to solve the problem you enacted the policy for.

Talk about irresponsibility.
 
eskimospy said:
Ah, so your justification for a policy that does nothing to reduce the problem you are trying to solve but makes more people die while doing it is that death is what they deserve so this is actually a good thing. Not only is that not justice by any modern standard, but your bloodlust is disgusting.

Your pathological hatred of women is really shining through here.
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Dude, you realize you're never going to convince Texashiker or nehalem. They simply two of the biggest pieces of excrement on this forum. They don't listen to reason because they don't have human feelings. They're monsters. Bad people will advocate bad things and feel justified.
 
eskimospy said:
Ah, so your justification for a policy that does nothing to reduce the problem
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How did society reduce the problem of men not paying child support?

The states enacted rigorous laws that allowed men to be put in jail for not paying child support. Throw a few fathers in prison, the rest see that and take actions to make sure the same thing does not happen to them.

Women learn abortion is no longer an option, they will take precautions.
 
Texashiker said:
How did society reduce the problem of men not paying child support?

The states enacted rigorous laws that allowed men to be put in jail for not paying child support. Throw a few fathers in prison, the rest see that and take actions to make sure the same thing does not happen to them.

Women learn abortion is no longer an option, they will take precautions.
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Are you illiterate? I already linked you to a study that showed that rigorous laws banning abortion don't reduce the 'problem' of abortion. That renders this entire post meaningless unless you can provide evidence that this isn't the case.

So again, when will you decide to stop being irresponsible and address what I asked you?
 
nehalem256 said:
Abortion is murder. A murderer dying in the process of committing murder is justice.

Justice is a good thing.
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He said justify, not propagandize. What you equate to justice does not equate to justification.

Perhaps you can explain and prove how abortion is murder, and also how disbelief in your political and / or religious beliefs is justification for murder. If you really hold the above beliefs -- that abortion is wrong and is murder, but that it's ok to murder others and/or let them die because they disagree with your political and/or religious beliefs -- then I think the explanation of how you are thereby a person that should not also be considered a "murderer" is warranted, too.
 
boomerang said:
If our entitlement state is to continue, our country needs more warm bodies to cover the costs. We have a choice of growing our own or importing Mexicans.

On another note, Obamacare has brought free contraception to the masses. There should be an enormous drop in demand for abortion in the nation. Obama told us that Obamacare is working the way it should. Abortion should quickly become a thing of the past.
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Mississippi is blocking Medicaid expansion under Obamacare.
Anyways, we the Democrats will conquer the South through the womb :biggrin:
 
eskimospy said:
So again, when will you decide to stop being irresponsible and address what I asked you?
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I am addressing your stance, just not in the way you expect or want me to address it.

If outlawing abortion increases the number of women who die from back alley abortions, they need to stop having back alley abortions.

Stop trying to murder your unborn child, step up and take responsibility for your actions.

It is that simple.
 
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nehalem256 said:
http://biblehub.com/leviticus/24-17.htm

Your welcome.
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I like this game!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cities_of_Refuge

But hey, lets use the old testament as wonderful way to lay down the rules for our modern socially evolved society.

Given your misogynistic behaviour history, you would love that.

I for one look forward to putting to death all the adulterers out there.

And one of my favourites:

“If a thief is caught breaking in and is struck so that he dies, the defender is not guilty of bloodshed; but if it happens after sunrise, he is guilty of bloodshed.”

They may need to add that to stand your ground laws.
 
MooseNSquirrel said:
I like this game!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cities_of_Refuge

But hey, lets use the old testament as wonderful way to lay down the rules for our modern socially evolved society.

Given your misogynistic behaviour history, you would love that.

I for one look forward to putting to death all the adulterers out there.

And one of my favourites:

“If a thief is caught breaking in and is struck so that he dies, the defender is not guilty of bloodshed; but if it happens after sunrise, he is guilty of bloodshed.”

They may need to add that to stand your ground laws.
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Man, I knew I should have murdered all of those thieves at 4 am instead of 6 am!!!
 
mrjminer said:
He said justify, not propagandize. What you equate to justice does not equate to justification. Perhaps you can explain and prove how abortion is murder, and also how disbelief in your political and / or religious beliefs is justification for murder.
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Implicit in the desire to make abortion illegal is the belief that abortion is murderer.

Saying we need to make murder legal, because otherwise murderers would die is not a very convincing argument.

mrjminer said:
If you really hold the above beliefs -- that abortion is wrong and is murder, but that it's ok to murder others and/or let them die because they disagree with your political and/or religious beliefs -- then I think the explanation of how you are thereby a person that should not also be considered a "murderer" is warranted, too.
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I am not letting them die. They are dying due to their choice to commit murder. Are you suggesting women are not adults capable of being responsible for themselves?

To borrow a liberal phrase: Don't want to die from an illegal abortion; don't get one 😉

thraashman said:
So you admit that your position of advocating for a situation where women end up dead is akin to murder?
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They are ending up dead because of their choice to commit murder.

Why are you saying women are not responsible for their actions?
 
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