Mississippi down to one abortion clinic

[Thebobo]

I do not care if a woman gets nailed by every guy in town along with the guys wife at the same time.

Have anal, her on top, him on top, MF, MMF, MMMF, FFM, FFFM, FF, FFF, reverse cowboy, upload vids to xvideos, xhamster, motherless, steam live,,,, I do not care.

The only thing I expect, as with everything else in life is to take responsibility for your actions.

If you use electricity, pay the bill.

If you use water, pay the bill.

If you go out to eat, pay the bill.

If you can not afford to buy a home, do not take out an expensive loan.

If you can not afford to have a child, take precautions.

If you create a child, take responsibility for that child.

Taking responsibility for a child is no different than paying for a meal, paying for electricity, paying a house note, paying your internet bill, paying your cell phone bill.

If you play, expect to pay. It is that simple.

Do not even try bringing the supreme court into this. They have a long history of human rights violations, everything from slavery to forced sterilization.

When it comes to upholding human rights the supreme court is like a dim light instead of a shining beacon.

Mr Perfect ok since you have never made a mistake in your life I will need to have your email and phone number. I may need to contact you to decide for me if I am doing the right thing, its the only way to be sure.

😵

 

[Texashiker]

And why is having an abortion not payment enough for you?

Abortion is like taking out a home loan you know you can not afford, so you burn the house down to avoid payment.

 

[SMOGZINN]

Abortion is like taking out a home loan you know you can not afford, so you burn the house down to avoid payment.

No it is not. When a woman has sex she is not signing a document agreeing to a child. She does not intentionally get pregnant.

 

[Texashiker]

Mr Perfect ok since you have never made a mistake in your life

I have made lots of mistakes in my life. Probably too many for me to even sart to list or remember.

On the topic of abortion, my daughter and 4th child was a mistake. My wife and I had planned on having only 3 children. I came home from work one day and she told me she was pregnant.

Abortion was never an option.

Over the past 14 years my kids have cost way in excess of $60k in child support and other stuff like medical bills.

When it comes to responsibility there are two types of people.

One type steps up and says they will take responsibility for their actions.

The other group, like women who have abortions and men who do not pay child support run from responsibility.

The last time I went for a child support review there were probably well over a dozen men who received adult probation for not paying their support. One guy owed over $100k, but he did not show up for court. In other words, he had never paid a single penny in support.

How can society point the finger at dads and tell them that since they shun responsibility they are bad parents. But when a woman has an abortion she is a good parent and being responsible?

In short:

Dads shun responsibility = bad.

Moms shun responsibility = good.

How is that supposed to work out? How is that line of thought even logical?

No it is not. When a woman has sex she is not signing a document agreeing to a child.

Just as a man agrees to become a parent when he deposits his sperm, the woman agrees to become a parent when she receives his sperm.

The giving and receiving is an unspoken mutual agreement.

 

[SMOGZINN]

Just as a man agrees to become a parent when he deposits his sperm, the woman agrees to become a parent when she receives his sperm.

The giving and receiving is an unspoken mutual agreement.

I have deposited my sperm many, many times and have never agreed to become a parent.

 

[Fern]

I find it hard to believe that MS is down to just 1 abortion facility.

Is it not profitable?

Not 1 doctor is willing to find a hospital (s)he can associate with and so legally perform abortions with virtually no competition?

Not 1 hospital is willing to set up a satellite clinic offering abortions? They don't need the money?

Are all doctors and hospitals in the state opposed to abortions?

And none of the abortion advocacy groups are willing to step in and arrange for a clinic?

Weird.

Fern

 

[Exophase]

Anyone else think that Texashiker wants is against people paying for abortions because they'd be getting out of having to pay for an unwanted child like he did?

Lots of "if you use X, you must pay the bill" being uttered as some kind of actual argument. Only in all of those cases if you don't pay you're taking something away from someone. If you perform an abortion you're only taking away from a fetus (or less) that doesn't think or feel anything and typically doesn't actually mean anything to anyone but has been arbitrary attributed personhood and value anyway.

Too bad so many people view right and wrong as just because someone else said so, and not because of anything to do with practical impact.

 

[CPA]

Beautiful, so the extreme poor will be having even more poor babies in the poorest and most violent state in the union. Force poor people to have kids and then refuse to help the slightest to take care of the unwanted kids, real genuis that. I vote we give Mississippi to Mexico. Their standard of living is roughly equivalent.

The tard runs extremely strong in the south.

So now wealth or lack of it is a legitimate excuse to abort?

 

[SMOGZINN]

So now wealth or lack of it is a legitimate excuse to abort?

A person does not need an excuse, they need a reason, and poverty is a reason.

 

[shira]

I have made lots of mistakes in my life. Probably too many for me to even sart to list or remember.

On the topic of abortion, my daughter and 4th child was a mistake. My wife and I had planned on having only 3 children. I came home from work one day and she told me she was pregnant.

Abortion was never an option.

Over the past 14 years my kids have cost way in excess of $60k in child support and other stuff like medical bills.

When it comes to responsibility there are two types of people.

One type steps up and says they will take responsibility for their actions.

The other group, like women who have abortions and men who do not pay child support run from responsibility.

The last time I went for a child support review there were probably well over a dozen men who received adult probation for not paying their support. One guy owed over $100k, but he did not show up for court. In other words, he had never paid a single penny in support.

How can society point the finger at dads and tell them that since they shun responsibility they are bad parents. But when a woman has an abortion she is a good parent and being responsible?

In short:

Dads shun responsibility = bad.

Moms shun responsibility = good.

How is that supposed to work out? How is that line of thought even logical?




Just as a man agrees to become a parent when he deposits his sperm, the woman agrees to become a parent when she receives his sperm.

The giving and receiving is an unspoken mutual agreement.

So you're paying something over $4k a year in child support? For FOUR children? About $1k per year per child!?!

How is that "being responsible?" My God, the cost of food for one year is much more than that, and we're not even counting clothing, medical, housing, transportation, educational expenses, and on and on and on.

A woman who gets an abortion for a child she knows she cannot provide the amount of emotional and financial support the child deserves is WAY more "responsible" than you are toward your own children.

 

[nehalem256]

No it is not. When a woman has sex she is not signing a document agreeing to a child. She does not intentionally get pregnant.

Yet the courts clearly say that if a man has sex he is agreeing to a child.

I have deposited my sperm many, many times and have never agreed to become a parent.

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I hope one day you try that argument before a judge.

 

[SMOGZINN]

Yet the courts clearly say that if a man has sex he is agreeing to a child.



:biggrin::biggrin::biggrin::biggrin::biggrin:

I hope one day you try that argument before a judge.

Oh, you think that paying money is the same as being a parent. That explains a lot.

 

[Victorian Gray]

The same can be asked of you.

 

[Incorruptible]

Run away you coward.

 

[brycejones]

Rape and abortion are usually a choice. If one can be prevented then so can the other.

Quick you need to run for at least statewide office with a view like that. Rape is a choice?

That has to be one of the most morally bankrupt statements ever uttered in these forums. Yep women choose to be raped all the time. WTF is wrong with you?

 

[nehalem256]

Oh, you think that paying money is the same as being a parent. That explains a lot.

So you think people should be forced to pay child support for children they aren't even the parents of? 😵

 

[fskimospy]

I find it hard to believe that MS is down to just 1 abortion facility.

Is it not profitable?

Not 1 doctor is willing to find a hospital (s)he can associate with and so legally perform abortions with virtually no competition?

Not 1 hospital is willing to set up a satellite clinic offering abortions? They don't need the money?

Are all doctors and hospitals in the state opposed to abortions?

And none of the abortion advocacy groups are willing to step in and arrange for a clinic?

Weird.

Fern

The articles on this are pretty clear. Doctors working at the clinic are unable to get admitting privileges due to political considerations.

The whole thing is a pretty transparent attempt to outlaw abortion, considering the actual safety aspects of abortion.

 

[Victorian Gray]

Run away you coward.

 

[MooseNSquirrel]

I have made lots of mistakes in my life. Probably too many for me to even sart to list or remember.

On the topic of abortion, my daughter and 4th child was a mistake. My wife and I had planned on having only 3 children. I came home from work one day and she told me she was pregnant.

Abortion was never an option.

Over the past 14 years my kids have cost way in excess of $60k in child support and other stuff like medical bills.

When it comes to responsibility there are two types of people.

One type steps up and says they will take responsibility for their actions.

The other group, like women who have abortions and men who do not pay child support run from responsibility.

The last time I went for a child support review there were probably well over a dozen men who received adult probation for not paying their support. One guy owed over $100k, but he did not show up for court. In other words, he had never paid a single penny in support.

How can society point the finger at dads and tell them that since they shun responsibility they are bad parents. But when a woman has an abortion she is a good parent and being responsible?

In short:

Dads shun responsibility = bad.

Moms shun responsibility = good.

How is that supposed to work out? How is that line of thought even logical?




Just as a man agrees to become a parent when he deposits his sperm, the woman agrees to become a parent when she receives his sperm.

The giving and receiving is an unspoken mutual agreement.

This is a false equivalency of the highest order.

I think whats really going on here is that a man is not involved in the critical decision of any consequence (having the baby or not) and they want to take back that control.

Deciding to have sex for recreational purposes with an unintended consequence due to an accident should not lead to such a forced heavily burdened outcome.

Period.

 

[alzan]

So you're paying something over $4k a year in child support? For FOUR children? About $1k per year per child!?!

How is that "being responsible?" My God, the cost of food for one year is much more than that, and we're not even counting clothing, medical, housing, transportation, educational expenses, and on and on and on.

A woman who gets an abortion for a child she knows she cannot provide the amount of emotional and financial support the child deserves is WAY more "responsible" than you are toward your own children.

It's worse than that; TH has said many times that he pays child support for children from a marriage previous to his current one. Four from current marriage, one or more from previous marriage.

 

[CitizenKain]

I find it hard to believe that MS is down to just 1 abortion facility.

Is it not profitable?

Not 1 doctor is willing to find a hospital (s)he can associate with and so legally perform abortions with virtually no competition?

Not 1 hospital is willing to set up a satellite clinic offering abortions? They don't need the money?

Are all doctors and hospitals in the state opposed to abortions?

And none of the abortion advocacy groups are willing to step in and arrange for a clinic?

Weird.

Fern

Because rednecks make it difficult for clinics to open, and if one does open, there is a good chance it will be burned to the ground or the staff murdered.

 

[Victorian Gray]

Because rednecks make it difficult for clinics to open, and if one does open, there is a good chance it will be burned to the ground or the staff murdered.

And I find it hard to believe that he doesn't already know this given how much play the issue has had in left/right/centre/national/international media over the past several years.

 

[Texashiker]

I find it hard to believe that MS is down to just 1 abortion facility.

Is it not profitable?

Not 1 doctor is willing to find a hospital (s)he can associate with and so legally perform abortions with virtually no competition?

Not 1 hospital is willing to set up a satellite clinic offering abortions? They don't need the money?

I think some it boils down to values.

Abortion clinics are not wanted in the state. Maybe people value and respect life.

So you're paying something over $4k a year in child support? For FOUR children? About $1k per year per child!?!

How is that "being responsible?"

That is just what I pay directly to the child support office.

Lets not forget clothes, food when the kids spend time at my house, computers, gaming consoles, shoes, glasses, trips to the dentist I took them to,,,, I spend a lot of money besides "just" on child support. I do not know how many thousands of dollars I spent on just shoes and clothes.

Deciding to have sex for recreational purposes with an unintended consequence due to an accident should not lead to such a forced heavily burdened outcome.

In other words you do not want to take responsibility for your actions.

Drinking and driving for recreational purposes with an unintended consequence due to an accident should not lead to such a forced heavily burdened outcome.

Smoking crack for recreational purposes with an unintended consequence due to an accident should not lead to such a forced heavily burdened outcome.

Skydiving for recreational purposes with an unintended consequence due to an accident should not lead to such a forced heavily burdened outcome.

unintended consequence due to an accident should not lead to such a forced heavily burdened outcome.

Yea,,,, tell that to the judge when he orders you to pay 20% of your income + provide health insurance.

But judge, it was an accident and I should not be burdened because of said accident.

Judge will probably look at you and say something like, "next time be more responsible."

 

[nehalem256]

Because rednecks make it difficult for clinics to open, and if one does open, there is a good chance it will be burned to the ground or the staff murdered.

You mean kinda like environmentalists making it take longer to start building an oil pipeline than to build the first atom bomb? :awe:

They just want to make sure that the impact of the abortion clinic on the community is fully understood. Its a process that legitimately takes years(or possibly even decades)!

 

[nehalem256]

Deciding to have sex for recreational purposes with an unintended consequence due to an accident should not lead to such a forced heavily burdened outcome.

So I take it that you are also against mandatory child support for men...