AbAbber2k
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There is no proof that faith healing actually works. Just as many, if not more, people who are prayed for, and have strong faith, NEVER receive healing.
Now hit me with "God works in mysterious ways." :roll:
Just because you can't explain something doesn't automatically mean "God did it."
And just because it doesn't happen for everyone who has faith doesn't mean it doesn't happen for some. If you don't want to believe in God, no amount of "proof" or "evidence" is ever going to convince you otherwise. If you don't believe in it, so be it. It's your right. But as for me and my house, we will worship the Lord.
Actually I'm saying it doesn't hurt anything, but also does not necessarily help anything either. Anybody who looks for one single solution to a problem needs to evaluate their thought process.
Uning your method of thinking - What if god made certain people to become doctors? What if god intends people to be surgeons so they are born with especially steady hands, patience, calm under pressure etc.... Is it wrong to believe in the skills of a surgeon, the skills given to him/her by god. We are all god's creatures right????
Personally I would say a few prayers then go under the knife.
We didn't really say the same thing, but he did qualify what happened to Jesus when He went to His hometown. Which was what I was trying to get across. I just wanted to show that even the Son of God Himself needs willing, believing, receptive vessels.
Look at how many times Jesus said, "By your faith you have been healed" in the gospels. That is the point I was driving home.
The bible says the harvest is plentiful but the laborers are few. As Christians we're called to spread the seed across the land, the seed being the word of God. One man sows the seed, one man waters, etc. but ultimately it leads back to Jesus in the end. He says, "I am the way the truth and the life, no one gets to the Father except through Me." He doesn't say you get there by being a good person and doing good things. You get there through accepting Jesus as your personal Lord and Savior and doing the will of God. I'm called to spread the gospel, I'm not trying to be a shepherd, I'm just trying to feed the sheep as I was commanded. If I don't warn you about the consequences of rejecting the Son of God, I am responsible for your blood.
You don't have to agree with me, and I can't make you, nor do I want to make you. If you choose to repent and accept the love of God, that would be glorious, but if it isn't sincere, I would rather have you not trivialize what happened at the cross. You won't spend eternity with the Lord if He doesn't know you, and that is straight from His mouth.
Personally, I really don't think it would hurt you to read the gospel of John. Here is a link. It isn't very long, and the least you can do is read it once through, and actually see what it has to say, instead of what other people have to say. Fifteen minutes to read a bit of it won't kill you, and if you decide you don't want it, then at least you actually did some of your own searching, which is much different than having someone tell you how you're going to go to hell if you don't do these certain things (which is what I said, only because I don't want to see you end up there).
IAteYourMother
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I didn't say that medicine was wrong. The Lord tells one of His prophets to use some herbs at one point. He also has a lot of laws in the first five books of the bible (Genesis - Deuteronomy) that are specifically designed to keep germs away from the people.
The only thing that I was saying about your statement was that if you don't have faith, then you aren't going to get healed. You said, "But faith healing alone it [sic] a load of crap.", that is plainly stating that you don't have any faith that you will be healed by God. And that is something that you are going to have to contend with.
Good point. Well said.
..."stay away from Colombian white."
Gotcha.
It's just those pesky neuo-chemicals that keep popping up in my head.
Sometimes belief and willpower are more important to healing than other things -- so somewhat. I think things that can't be explained by science happen, but not often (unless the science isn't there yet). Although I do think that almost all things can be explained by science (pursuit of truth), I do not think that precludes G-d from the process.
Yes, it happens. Most people just aren't aware of it, or they just go into Scientific Reduction and take away actual thing that happened. the Scientific reductive process is great, but again it doesn't preclude something spritual involved in the process (although many people are trained to think that way).
To be honest, i am VERY skeptical of most people that claim they have "healing powers" however, i do believe that there have been a few people throughout the ages that did have the power to heal.
I do believe in prayer and in my own life i have seen a loved one benefit from it, when all doctors were at the end of their treatments, nothing else was available to be done... and all of a sudden, the illness was gone. Even the most well respected dr's were shocked and had no idea how it happened.
I do believe in prayer and in my own life i have seen a loved one benefit from it, when all doctors were at the end of their treatments, nothing else was available to be done... and all of a sudden, the illness was gone. Even the most well respected dr's were shocked and had no idea how it happened.
QFT. Sometimes things that can't be explained by science happen, but not often in an individuals life. It does happen, so we need to keep our eyes open.
I really hate to be a cynic, but just because something can't be explain by science immediately does not mean that it can't be explained by science. A man much wiser than I said, "any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic"
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