Minority whip swan dives into the deep end of the hyperbole pool

[TastesLikeChicken]

Here's yet another case of irrational overstatement and moral equivalency from the left. This time it comes from the #2 Democrat in the Senate and boy Illinois sure must be proud of themselves for voting this oaf into office.

http://insider.washingtontimes.com/arti...rmal.php?StoryID=20050616-121815-1827r

The Senate's No. 2 Democrat has compared the U.S. military's treatment of a suspected al Qaeda terrorist at the U.S. prison at Guantanamo Bay with the regimes of Adolf Hitler, Josef Stalin and Pol Pot, three of history's most heinous dictators, whose regimes killed millions.
In a speech on the Senate floor late Tuesday, Minority Whip Richard J. Durbin, Illinois Democrat, castigated the American military's actions by reading an e-mail from an FBI agent.

The agent complained to higher-ups that one al Qaeda suspect was chained to the floor, kept in an extremely cold air-conditioned cell and forced to hear loud rap music. The Justice Department is investigating. ...

After reading the e-mail, Mr. Durbin said, "If I read this to you and did not tell you that it was an FBI agent describing what Americans had done to prisoners in their control, you would most certainly believe this must have been done by Nazis, Soviets in their gulags, or some mad regime -- Pol Pot or others -- that had no concern for human beings. Sadly, that is not the case. This was the action of Americans in the treatment of their prisoners."

Mr. Durbin also likened the treatment of terror suspects at the prison in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, and the Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq to President Franklin D. Roosevelt's decision to authorize the internment of Japanese-Americans during World War II.

"It took us almost 40 years for us to acknowledge that we were wrong, to admit that these people should never have been imprisoned. It was a shameful period in American history," Mr. Durbin said. "I believe the torture techniques that have been used at Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo and other places fall into that same category."

So let's see here. He's comparing our soldiers at Gitmo to Nazi stormtroopers, dredging up the old "galug" reference for another gulp of air, and claiming that it the equivalent of the Killing Fields too. Not only that, but he's comparing American citizens detained on the basis of their ethnicity to Islamofascist terrorists. I'm sure the survivors of the Japanese internment camps love being lumped into that pile.

What is it with these crazy politiciians named Richard? Both sides have them. I propose a new law - No more Dicks in politics.

 

[Genx87]

Lets talk about Bush being a liar and faking 9-11, WMD reports, and being in bed with Saudi oil money.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Here's yet another case of irrational overstatement and moral equivalency from the left. This time it comes from the #2 Democrat in the Senate and boy Illinois sure must be proud of themselves for voting this oaf into office.

http://insider.washingtontimes.com/arti...rmal.php?StoryID=20050616-121815-1827r

The Senate's No. 2 Democrat has compared the U.S. military's treatment of a suspected al Qaeda terrorist at the U.S. prison at Guantanamo Bay with the regimes of Adolf Hitler, Josef Stalin and Pol Pot, three of history's most heinous dictators, whose regimes killed millions.
In a speech on the Senate floor late Tuesday, Minority Whip Richard J. Durbin, Illinois Democrat, castigated the American military's actions by reading an e-mail from an FBI agent.

The agent complained to higher-ups that one al Qaeda suspect was chained to the floor, kept in an extremely cold air-conditioned cell and forced to hear loud rap music. The Justice Department is investigating. ...

After reading the e-mail, Mr. Durbin said, "If I read this to you and did not tell you that it was an FBI agent describing what Americans had done to prisoners in their control, you would most certainly believe this must have been done by Nazis, Soviets in their gulags, or some mad regime -- Pol Pot or others -- that had no concern for human beings. Sadly, that is not the case. This was the action of Americans in the treatment of their prisoners."

Mr. Durbin also likened the treatment of terror suspects at the prison in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, and the Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq to President Franklin D. Roosevelt's decision to authorize the internment of Japanese-Americans during World War II.

"It took us almost 40 years for us to acknowledge that we were wrong, to admit that these people should never have been imprisoned. It was a shameful period in American history," Mr. Durbin said. "I believe the torture techniques that have been used at Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo and other places fall into that same category."

So let's see here. He's comparing our soldiers at Gitmo to Nazi stormtroopers, dredging up the old "galug" reference for another gulp of air, and claiming that it the equivalent of the Killing Fields too. Not only that, but he's comparing American citizens detained on the basis of their ethnicity to Islamofascist terrorists. I'm sure the survivors of the Japanese internment camps love being lumped into that pile.

What is it with these crazy politiciians named Richard? Both sides have them. I propose a new law - No more Dicks in politics.

Awwwwww looks like somebody listened to Mike Savage last night.

 

[Darkhawk28]

Wow, truth hurts to the OP...

His whole speech

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Awwwwww looks like somebody listened to Mike Savage last night.

I don't even know who Mike Savage is.

 

[Darkhawk28]

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Awwwwww looks like somebody listened to Mike Savage last night.

I don't even know who Mike Savage is.

Oh wow, my bullsh*t meter just went haywire! :laugh:

 

[umbrella39]

More duhversion and obfuscation from the righties. SSDD. Let us know when you have put down that menacing keyboard and have enlisted chickenhawks.

 

[Bowfinger]

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
[ ... ]
So let's see here. He's comparing our soldiers at Gitmo to Nazi stormtroopers, dredging up the old "galug" reference for another gulp of air, and claiming that it the equivalent of the Killing Fields too. Not only that, but he's comparing American citizens detained on the basis of their ethnicity to Islamofascist terrorists. I'm sure the survivors of the Japanese internment camps love being lumped into that pile. ...

Speaking of taking a "swan dive into the deep end of the hyperbole pool." That is just another straw man. No, he's not doing any of those things. You should try reading what he said, in context, instead of attacking what you wish he meant.

 

[Darkhawk28]

Originally posted by: Bowfinger

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
[ ... ]
So let's see here. He's comparing our soldiers at Gitmo to Nazi stormtroopers, dredging up the old "galug" reference for another gulp of air, and claiming that it the equivalent of the Killing Fields too. Not only that, but he's comparing American citizens detained on the basis of their ethnicity to Islamofascist terrorists. I'm sure the survivors of the Japanese internment camps love being lumped into that pile. ...

Speaking of taking a "swan dive into the deep end of the hyperbole pool." That is just another straw man. No, he's not doing any of those things. You should try reading what he said, in context, instead of attacking what you wish he meant.

I even provided a handy-dandy link to the full text of his speech.

 

[BBond]

Durbin isn't CBS or Newsweek.

Sen. Durbin Stands by Guantanamo Remarks

By MEGAN REICHGOTT
The Associated Press
Wednesday, June 15, 2005; 10:46 PM

CHICAGO -- Sen. Dick Durbin refused to apologize Wednesday for comments he made on the Senate floor comparing the actions of American soldiers at Guantanamo Bay to Nazis, Soviet gulags and a "mad regime" like Khmer Rouge leader Pol Pot's in Cambodia.

Durbin's comments created a buzz on the Internet Wednesday, fueled by sound bites of his speech on radio talk shows. By Wednesday afternoon, Illinois Republican Party Chairman Andy McKenna asked Durbin to apologize.

"Senator Durbin's comments come as a great disservice to our military personnel in Guantanamo," McKenna said in a statement. "They are also a great disservice to all U.S. soldiers and veterans who have fought, and continue to fight, to overcome evil regimes and spread democracy around the world."

Durbin did not plan to apologize for the comments, spokesman Joe Shoemaker said.

"This administration should apologize to the American people for abandoning the Geneva Conventions and authorizing torture techniques that put our troops at risk and make Americans less secure," Durbin said in a statement Wednesday evening.

During a speech Tuesday, the Senate's No. 2 Democrat quoted from an FBI agent's report describing detainees at the Naval base in Guantanamo Bay as being chained to the floor without food or water in extreme temperatures.

"If I read this to you and did not tell you that it was an FBI agent describing what Americans had done to prisoners in their control, you would most certainly believe this must have been done by Nazis, Soviets in their gulags, or some mad regime _ Pol Pot or others _ that had no concern for human beings," Durbin said.

Critics _ mostly human-rights groups and Democrats _ have long accused the administration of unjustly detaining suspects at the prison camp in Guantanamo.

The Bush administration calls the Guantanamo prisoners "enemy combatants" who are entitled to fewer legal protections than those afforded to prisoners of war under the Geneva Conventions.

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Wow, truth hurts to the OP...

His whole speech

The left is not concerned with truth today. They are too busy on their smear campaign and making themselves look like doddering idiots in the process to wield any truth.

 

[Bowfinger]

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Wow, truth hurts to the OP...

His whole speech

The left is not concerned with truth today. They are too busy on their smear campaign and making themselves look like doddering idiots in the process to wield any truth.

True BushSpeak: wrong is right, down is up, war is peace, and "right" is "left".

 

[Darkhawk28]

Originally posted by: Bowfinger

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Wow, truth hurts to the OP...

His whole speech

The left is not concerned with truth today. They are too busy on their smear campaign and making themselves look like doddering idiots in the process to wield any truth.

True BushSpeak: wrong is right, down is up, war is peace, and "right" is "left".

Death is life, life is death...

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Originally posted by: Darkhawk28

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Awwwwww looks like somebody listened to Mike Savage last night.

I don't even know who Mike Savage is.

Oh wow, my bullsh*t meter just went haywire! :laugh:

Just take a few steps away from it. It'll normalize again. :laugh:

 

[Tiger]

Lets talk about Bush being a liar and faking 9-11,

OK Einstein I'll bite.
How exactly did Bush "fake" 9-11?
These forums used to have pretty good idiot filters. Then they got over run by pre-pubescent boys.

 

[Darkhawk28]

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: Darkhawk28

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Awwwwww looks like somebody listened to Mike Savage last night.

I don't even know who Mike Savage is.

Oh wow, my bullsh*t meter just went haywire! :laugh:

Just take a few steps away from it. It'll normalize again. :laugh:

How can it? You're STILL POSTING. :laugh:

 

[umbrella39]

Originally posted by: Tiger

Lets talk about Bush being a liar and faking 9-11,

OK Einstein I'll bite.
How exactly did Bush "fake" 9-11?
These forums used to have pretty good idiot filters. Then they got over run by pre-pubescent boys.

Tap yer sarcometer. He is playing the role of leftist whiner today. He is an understudy. He needs to polish and refine his act a bit, not convincing enough yet

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: umbrella39

Originally posted by: Tiger

Lets talk about Bush being a liar and faking 9-11,

OK Einstein I'll bite.
How exactly did Bush "fake" 9-11?
These forums used to have pretty good idiot filters. Then they got over run by pre-pubescent boys.

Tap yer sarcometer. He is playing the role of leftist whiner today. He is an understudy. He needs to polish and refine his act a bit, not convincing enough yet

Dont know, it seems I am pretty convincing.

It comes from the heart.

 

[jman19]

Originally posted by: Darkhawk28

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Awwwwww looks like somebody listened to Mike Savage last night.

I don't even know who Mike Savage is.

Oh wow, my bullsh*t meter just went haywire! :laugh:

Don't you remember, TLC isn't a republican :roll:

 

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Wow, truth hurts to the OP...

His whole speech

The left is not concerned with truth today. They are too busy on their smear campaign and making themselves look like doddering idiots in the process to wield any truth.

Coming from someone who takes almost every oppportunity that comes up to smear the left, I find that rather amusing.

I just have to know what you think. How long do we detain these people?? What is you suggestion of what to do with them??

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Originally posted by: jman19

Originally posted by: Darkhawk28

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Awwwwww looks like somebody listened to Mike Savage last night.

I don't even know who Mike Savage is.

Oh wow, my bullsh*t meter just went haywire! :laugh:

Don't you remember, TLC isn't a republican :roll:

I'm not an Islamofascist either.

And?

 

[jman19]

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: jman19

Originally posted by: Darkhawk28

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Awwwwww looks like somebody listened to Mike Savage last night.

I don't even know who Mike Savage is.

Oh wow, my bullsh*t meter just went haywire! :laugh:

Don't you remember, TLC isn't a republican :roll:

I'm not an Islamofascist either.

And?

Make the connection yourself.

 

[Darkhawk28]

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Wow, truth hurts to the OP...

His whole speech

The left is not concerned with truth today. They are too busy on their smear campaign and making themselves look like doddering idiots in the process to wield any truth.

Coming from someone who takes almost every oppportunity that comes up to smear the left, I find that rather amusing.

I just have to know what you think. How long do we detain these people?? What is you suggestion of what to do with them??

Bah, they get RICE PILAF!! Well, that settles it, doesn't it?

 

[cwjerome]

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Wow, truth hurts to the OP...

His whole speech

The left is not concerned with truth today. They are too busy on their smear campaign and making themselves look like doddering idiots in the process to wield any truth.

The Left thinks they're concerned with truth. Truth just happens to be whatever fuels their flames. For them, truth is whatever they agree with.

Third Reich, gulags, religious facists, Hitler, Pol Pot, faked 9/11, OBL's a puppet, etc etc (oh, and Howard Dean)..... Their "truth" is Comedy Central material. The slow burn of the Dems is reaching critical mass.

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Wow, truth hurts to the OP...

His whole speech

The left is not concerned with truth today. They are too busy on their smear campaign and making themselves look like doddering idiots in the process to wield any truth.

Coming from someone who takes almost every oppportunity that comes up to smear the left, I find that rather amusing.

I don't see you complaining about those who take every opportunity to smear the right. If I really wanted to smear the left at every opportunity, I could go recruit a bunch of fringe righties to join this forum, pump out numerous new topics every day about the oafishness of the left, and then let the right peanut gallery contribute snide and trite little remarks...exactly like the predominate lefties act in here.

I just have to know what you think. How long do we detain these people?? What is you suggestion of what to do with them??

I don't know. What do we do with an enemy that doesn't operate under the Geneva convention in the first place? Why should we have to claim the GC applies in their case when it so obviously doesn't?