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Minicars set to invade America

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In America, $2-a-gallon gas is still new, and consumers are lining up for a car called the Toyota Prius that will get an honest 44 miles per gallon.

But in Europe, where gas costs more than $5 a gallon, two bucks is a laugh and a 44-mpg car is no big deal.

In fact, some minicar mileage champs--mere dwarfs compared with what Americans think of as a small car--squeeze nearly 70 miles out of each gallon.

Americans will get a sampling of these cars during the next few years as DaimlerChrysler AG's Smart unit, Volkswagen AG's Audi, BMW and other automakers test the waters here with cars much smaller and thus more fuel-efficient than they offer now.

For the most part, though, the best ones aren't even sold here, and Americans and Europeans are likely to remain an ocean apart when it comes to small, fuel-efficient cars.

The reason: Americans don't want to give up the horsepower and safety of larger cars, and both buyers and regulators remain skeptical of the diesel engines that power some of the minicars.

In Europe, high taxes on gasoline that are designed to encourage conservation work like a charm: Consumers in Europe drive smaller, more fuel-efficient and often much less powerful cars than do most Americans, but they can choose from a wide variety. Some are quite stylish.

Smallest probably is the two-seater Smart ForTwo, sold in Canada as well as in Europe. At just 98.4 inches long, it's shorter than many other mincars.

It's nearly 4 feet shorter than a BMW Mini Cooper and way shorter than other Lilliputians such as the Mazda Miata, Honda Insight and Chevrolet Aveo. It claims to get almost 70 mpg.

But, like many of Europe's high-mileage cars, the Smart ForTwo has a diesel engine. It's much more economical than gasoline, and diesel powers about 45 percent of all models in Europe. But in America diesel is reserved mostly for heavy trucks. In fact, diesel cars can't even be registered in some states, such as California, because of state clean air requirements.

Many of the world's most fuel-efficient cars are from automakers that don't even try to sell the vehicles here, including France's Peugeot/Citroen and Renault, Japan's Daihatsu, Skoda of the Czech Republic and Tata of India.

But many of the other mileage champs abroad are sold here as well, usually under different names and often with different, less fuel-efficient powertrain choices than those in the lower-powered European models.

To be sure, the gap between what Americans drive and what Europeans drive has narrowed considerably in the decades since the shock of the OPEC oil embargo of 1973-74.

Still, attempts since then to interest Americans in diesel engines for cars largely have fallen flat; the engines tend to be noisier, smokier and less peppy than gasoline models.

Attempts to interest Americans in very small gasoline cars with very good fuel economy haven't been much more successful. The Subaru Justy, Ford Festiva and Aspire, and Geo Sprint/Chevrolet Metro all were weak sellers and are gone.

Art Spinella, president of CNW Marketing Research in Bandon, Ore., said fewer than a third of American car buyers consider fuel economy an important factor in their decisions as opposed to engine power He said his company has found little change in diesel attitudes.

"Smelly, smoky, noisy," Spinella said.

U.S. environmentalists don't like diesels, either, because of the soot and other pollutants, but Ron Cogan of the California-based Green Car Group said today's models are different.

"The small cars marketed in the past were soulless cars," he said. "They didn't speak to people."

He said cars like Toyota Motor Co.p.'s Prius and BMW's gasoline-powered Mini Cooper offer proof that well-equipped, well-designed small cars will find buyers in America.

One who agrees is Scott Keogh, general manager of Smart Cars U.S.A., which plans to begin importing a Brazilian-made Smart model in 2006.

The Smart ForeMore can seat four, and is much larger than the ForTwo. It is intended to compete with small sport utility vehicles such as the Toyota RAV4.

"I think we're seeing a trend now," Keogh said, "that small cars are becoming cool."

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and those euros get suckered into paying $20,000 for one of those little ForMores. :thumbsdown:
 
the Prius gets 70 MPG city and 65 HWY

my civic gets almost 40 MPG on HWY driving... I am not complaining, its all the dumbasses who buy Huge SUVs because they are cool, and get 8 MPG
 
Originally posted by: ElFenix
and those euros get suckered into paying $20,000 for one of those little ForMores. :thumbsdown:

I wonder what the oil-scare folks plan to do about big rigs. Are we going to have a fleet of twenty "ForCargos" puttering around replacing each transport? 😛

- M4H
 
Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Originally posted by: ElFenix
and those euros get suckered into paying $20,000 for one of those little ForMores. :thumbsdown:

I wonder what the oil-scare folks plan to do about big rigs. Are we going to have a fleet of twenty "ForCargos" puttering around replacing each transport? 😛

- M4H

rail is more efficient than a big rig. we need some new north-south trunk lines.
 
Originally posted by: Gothgar
the Prius gets 70 MPG city and 65 HWY

my civic gets almost 40 MPG on HWY driving... I am not complaining, its all the dumbasses who buy Huge SUVs because they are cool, and get 8 MPG

my old roommate (who lurks around here) gets about 45 with his new prius. he says if he was just driving on a flat highway he'd get 55.
 
Originally posted by: yellowfiero
IThe Smart ForeMore can seat four, and is much larger than the ForTwo. It is intended to compete with small sport utility vehicles such as the Toyota RAV4.

isn't it Smart ForFour? that's what it's sold in Europe as.

and i always thought that the American cars were sometimes overpowered
 
Two things I notice when I'm in Europe: There are NO SUVs in most of the western countries (ok, there are a few, but you're often hard-pressed to find them), and there are NO obese people (again, there are, but you get the idea by now I hope).

Check out this car 🙂

 
Originally posted by: Descartes
Two things I notice when I'm in Europe: There are NO SUVs in most of the western countries (ok, there are a few, but you're often hard-pressed to find them), and there are NO obese people (again, there are, but you get the idea by now I hope).

Check out this car 🙂

Many SUVs over there are running on LPG. I know a guy in England with a Jeep that is converted. You don't see many in the city because they don't fit, but out in the country, SUVs are fairly common, so I have been told.
 
the smart for two cars look pretty neat. I'd definitely buy one... it'd be great to drive back and forth to work in; it's always a struggle to find parking in both places.
 
Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
Damn, crashes are going to get ugly...
Just what I was thinking.

So many people drive SUVs here, I don't want to be on the "mini" side of that crash.

MPG doesn't matter much when you're dead.

 
"I think we're seeing a trend now," Keogh said, "that small cars are becoming cool." ]

they so are not. we've had small cars. ford aspire? geo metro?😛 the new hybrids are more power boosters then gas sippers. the new 255hp accord..the lexus suv hybrid...
 
I believe they've got some sort of cage-structure in the Smart cars so they bounce around instead of being crushed. Dunno how much that would help if you're sandwiched between a couple cars.
But I like them, and am considering buying one in a few years. I see it as (finally) a replacement for the Beetles of yore, albeit with a higher price tag.
 
Originally posted by: SampSon
They will be popular when SUVs are banned.
what ever happened to those sticklers for freedom ? They start banning this and that and all the rest of our freedoms will go away one by one... :roll:
 
Originally posted by: rh71
Originally posted by: SampSon
They will be popular when SUVs are banned.
what ever happened to those sticklers for freedom ? They start banning this and that and all the rest of our freedoms will go away one by one... :roll:

Things are only allowed to be banned when they don't like it. 😉
 
Originally posted by: rh71
Originally posted by: SampSon
They will be popular when SUVs are banned.
what ever happened to those sticklers for freedom ? They start banning this and that and all the rest of our freedoms will go away one by one... :roll:
Who are you referring to?
 
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