Mind May Affect Machines

[DAGTA]

Wired News Article

I've witnessed it happen to me and other people. I've also noticed that it does happen more often with a pair that is attracted to each other than a single person.

I don't need convincing but I'm glad to see ideas like this getting more mainstream attention.

 

I think incidents of computers doing exactly the OPPOSITE of what people want is more prevalent than people willing computers to do what they want.

 

[DAGTA]

Originally posted by: jumpr
I think incidents of computers doing exactly the OPPOSITE of what people want is more prevalent than people willing computers to do what they want.

Particularly with respect to Microsoft Word.

 

[MAME]

this seems pretty much impossible...they said you have the same influence on the output from across the country

how the hell does that work

 

[DAGTA]

Originally posted by: MAME
this seems pretty much impossible...they said you have the same influence on the output from across the country

how the hell does that work

All of humanity is linked through consciousness.

You asked, so I told you. I don't expect you to believe it.

 

[nakedfrog]

I've known of a few people who seemed to project something that made computers misbehave around them.

 

[Electric Amish]

Based on the laws of probability wouldn't this happen occasionally anyway??

 

[MAME]

Originally posted by: Electric Amish
Based on the laws of probability wouldn't this happen occasionally anyway??

that's what I'm thinking

 

[DAGTA]

Originally posted by: Electric Amish
Based on the laws of probability wouldn't this happen occasionally anyway??

Yes, but if you read the article, you'll see that it's happening at a 'statistically significant' rate. Higher than 'random' probability.

 

[91TTZ]

A junk study based on junk science. This just gives fuel to the lame arguments set forth by quacks and conspiracy theorists.

 

[DAGTA]

Originally posted by: 91TTZ
A junk study based on junk science. This just gives fuel to the lame arguments set forth by quacks and conspiracy theorists.

You're just a fountain of open-mindedness.

 

[MAME]

Originally posted by: DAGTA

Originally posted by: MAME
this seems pretty much impossible...they said you have the same influence on the output from across the country

how the hell does that work

All of humanity is linked through consciousness.

You asked, so I told you. I don't expect you to believe it.

:thumbsdo[/b]wn;

 

[DAGTA]

Originally posted by: MAME

Originally posted by: DAGTA

Originally posted by: MAME
this seems pretty much impossible...they said you have the same influence on the output from across the country

how the hell does that work

All of humanity is linked through consciousness.

You asked, so I told you. I don't expect you to believe it.

:thumbsdo[/b]wn;

Visit me and I'll prove it to you. I already have to several people.

 

[Heisenberg]

Originally posted by: Electric Amish
Based on the laws of probability wouldn't this happen occasionally anyway??

Yes, but if they do a proper statistical analysis that could be taken into account.

 

[Judgement]

The day humans can manipulate machines solely with the strength of their mind will be a glorious day indeed.

 

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: DAGTA

I've witnessed it happen to me and other people. I've also noticed that it does happen more often with a pair that is attracted to each other than a single person.

No, you haven't.

Usually people that think this is happening to them are just bad at solving problems, so they never find out the real cause and attibute it to something unrelated.

 

[Aharami]

Originally posted by: Electric Amish
Based on the laws of probability wouldn't this happen occasionally anyway??

im more inclined to believe this than some ESP mumbo-jumbo

 

[Brutuskend]

Women tend to get a bigger effect, but not necessarily the one they intend. For example, they might intend to direct balls in the random cascade machine to fall to the left, but they fall to the right instead.

Further proof that machines hate women.

 

[DAGTA]

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: DAGTA

I've witnessed it happen to me and other people. I've also noticed that it does happen more often with a pair that is attracted to each other than a single person.

No, you haven't.

Usually people that think this is happening to them are just bad at solving problems, so they never find out the real cause and attibute it to something unrelated.

Nice of you to attempt to speak for me.

One story for you:
A woman I was interested in, and was interested in me, had high blood pressure. I had known her for a while and was concerned so I talked her into visiting my doctor. He attempted to read her blood pressure with an electronic machine. It consistently gave an ERROR when he tried to use it on her. He tried it on me, same thing.

Next time she went to visit him, it worked fine.

A month later, I went with her again. Again, the machine read ERROR. This time I laughed and said, "Let me leave the room." I walked out of the room and to the reception area. Immediately, the doctor yelled out that the machine was working. He asked me for an explanation, I declined.

Two more times she went on her own and it worked fine.

A third time I went with her. Again, the machine read ERROR. The doctor told me to leave the room. I walked about 40 feet away and he yells out that the machine was now working.

Consistent and replicable. Yes, I finally gave the explanation to the doctor and... guess what? he believed it.

 

[Triumph]

Sounds like bunk. They picked the stupidest and most complicated experiments, too. Translating high freqeuncy noise into ones and zeros? Changing the rate at which a pendulum slows to a stop? How retarded. How about something simple like choosing the next number outputted by the REG?

But this is interesting. I'd like to see more data on this:

Or the effect could be caused by something similar to what occurred in experiments conducted in 1963 by neurophysiologist W. Grey Walter. In those experiments, researchers implanted electrodes in participants' motor cortices and sat them next to a carousel slide projector. Participants were told to advance the slides by pressing a button. What they weren't told was that the button was a dummy. The slides actually advanced in response to an amplified signal sent from the participants' brains.

 

[upsciLLion]

Here is another good link for a similar topic though on a much more grand scale. Also be sure to visit the root site here.

 

[nakedfrog]

Originally posted by: Triumph
Sounds like bunk. They picked the stupidest and most complicated experiments, too. Translating high freqeuncy noise into ones and zeros? Changing the rate at which a pendulum slows to a stop? How retarded. How about something simple like choosing the next number outputted by the REG?

Kinda like the one mentioned here?

During the late 1970s, Prof Jahn decided to investigate whether the power of human thought alone could interfere in some way with the machine's usual readings. He hauled strangers off the street and asked them to concentrate their minds on his number generator. In effect, he was asking them to try to make it flip more heads than tails.

It was a preposterous idea at the time. The results, however, were stunning and have never been satisfactorily explained.

Again and again, entirely ordinary people proved that their minds could influence the machine and produce significant fluctuations on the graph, 'forcing it' to produce unequal numbers of 'heads' or 'tails'.

According to all of the known laws of science, this should not have happened - but it did. And it kept on happening.

 

[Triumph]

Well, from what I understand there is also the problem that it is impossible to create a *true* random event generator. I never took those sort of higher level math classes, but I've heard that somewhere. When you get into sample sizes in the hundreds of thousands, that could become an issue.

 

[jman19]

Bookmarking this one for later.

 

[ShadowBlade]

they say nothing of control machines set up
i dont beleive it