Mind May Affect Machines

[mobobuff]

Would anything relating to that explain why, in near complete silence, an audible yet very quiet high pitched noise can be heard when a person approaches your proximity but you aren't visually aware of their presence?

Also, what is the sound of complete silence? Say you're sitting in a sealed room far underground, nothing is around to be making noise, but you can still hear fuzz, and you can even draw patterns from the modulations in the sounds... there's still perceptable background noise. Or could this just be explained by the inefficiency of human ears and auditory system?

Perhaps, when a person nears your proximity, something relatively subconcious says "I detect a presence" and then proceeds to boost auditory preception? So much like the noise emitted by a guitar amplifier when the volume is maxed yet no input is defined, you hear a fuzzy tone? But this wouldn't explain patterns in the noise.

 

[Patt]

Originally posted by: DAGTA

Originally posted by: jumpr
I think incidents of computers doing exactly the OPPOSITE of what people want is more prevalent than people willing computers to do what they want.

Particularly with respect to Microsoft Word.

More like "Particularly with respect to Microsoft *"

 

[eigen]

Originally posted by: mobobuff
Would anything relating to that explain why, in near complete silence, an audible yet very quiet high pitched noise can be heard when a person approaches your proximity but you aren't visually aware of their presence?

Also, what is the sound of complete silence? Say you're sitting in a sealed room far underground, nothing is around to be making noise, but you can still hear fuzz, and you can even draw patterns from the modulations in the sounds... there's still perceptable background noise. Or could this just be explained by the inefficiency of human ears and auditory system?

Perhaps, when a person nears your proximity, something relatively subconcious says "I detect a presence" and then proceeds to boost auditory preception? So much like the noise emitted by a guitar amplifier when the volume is maxed yet no input is defined, you hear a fuzzy tone? But this wouldn't explain patterns in the noise.

You have never been in an anechoic chamber.There is NO noise. It is unearthly.There is no hum there is NO noise.You will fall over in the dark.

 

[DAGTA]

Originally posted by: mobobuff
Would anything relating to that explain why, in near complete silence, an audible yet very quiet high pitched noise can be heard when a person approaches your proximity but you aren't visually aware of their presence?

Also, what is the sound of complete silence? Say you're sitting in a sealed room far underground, nothing is around to be making noise, but you can still hear fuzz, and you can even draw patterns from the modulations in the sounds... there's still perceptable background noise. Or could this just be explained by the inefficiency of human ears and auditory system?

Perhaps, when a person nears your proximity, something relatively subconcious says "I detect a presence" and then proceeds to boost auditory preception? So much like the noise emitted by a guitar amplifier when the volume is maxed yet no input is defined, you hear a fuzzy tone? But this wouldn't explain patterns in the noise.

I don't have the answers to your questions. The only thing I can add to your post is that it is possible for one person's energy field (electromagnetic, aura, whatever you want to name it) to interact with another person's field. I can prove this, too, but a person has to be close enough for me to do it.

 

[Triumph]

Originally posted by: mobobuff
Would anything relating to that explain why, in near complete silence, an audible yet very quiet high pitched noise can be heard when a person approaches your proximity but you aren't visually aware of their presence?

Also, what is the sound of complete silence? Say you're sitting in a sealed room far underground, nothing is around to be making noise, but you can still hear fuzz, and you can even draw patterns from the modulations in the sounds... there's still perceptable background noise. Or could this just be explained by the inefficiency of human ears and auditory system?

Perhaps, when a person nears your proximity, something relatively subconcious says "I detect a presence" and then proceeds to boost auditory preception? So much like the noise emitted by a guitar amplifier when the volume is maxed yet no input is defined, you hear a fuzzy tone? But this wouldn't explain patterns in the noise.

I think those are due more to disturbances in the air as you move through it - that's how you can sense someone behind you. I think.

 

[ZOXXO]

Testing proves, testing works.

 

[Zenmervolt]

Originally posted by: MAME
this seems pretty much impossible...they said you have the same influence on the output from across the country

how the hell does that work

Sounds similar to the Quantum principle of non-locality.

ZV

 

[Gibsons]

Originally posted by: 91TTZ
A junk study based on junk science. This just gives fuel to the lame arguments set forth by quacks and conspiracy theorists.

 

[alien42]

Originally posted by: DAGTA

Originally posted by: MAME
this seems pretty much impossible...they said you have the same influence on the output from across the country

how the hell does that work

All of humanity is linked through consciousness.

You asked, so I told you. I don't expect you to believe it.

i would agree.

familiar with the 100th monkey?

 

[igowerf]

So does this mean that people who regularly infect computers with spyware have voyeuristic and malicious thoughts running through their minds all day?

 

[DAGTA]

Originally posted by: alien42

Originally posted by: DAGTA

Originally posted by: MAME
this seems pretty much impossible...they said you have the same influence on the output from across the country

how the hell does that work

All of humanity is linked through consciousness.

You asked, so I told you. I don't expect you to believe it.

i would agree.

familiar with the 100th monkey?

No, never heard of it. Care to describe it?

 

[remagavon]

Originally posted by: DAGTA

Originally posted by: mobobuff
Would anything relating to that explain why, in near complete silence, an audible yet very quiet high pitched noise can be heard when a person approaches your proximity but you aren't visually aware of their presence?

Also, what is the sound of complete silence? Say you're sitting in a sealed room far underground, nothing is around to be making noise, but you can still hear fuzz, and you can even draw patterns from the modulations in the sounds... there's still perceptable background noise. Or could this just be explained by the inefficiency of human ears and auditory system?

Perhaps, when a person nears your proximity, something relatively subconcious says "I detect a presence" and then proceeds to boost auditory preception? So much like the noise emitted by a guitar amplifier when the volume is maxed yet no input is defined, you hear a fuzzy tone? But this wouldn't explain patterns in the noise.

I don't have the answers to your questions. The only thing I can add to your post is that it is possible for one person's energy field (electromagnetic, aura, whatever you want to name it) to interact with another person's field. I can prove this, too, but a person has to be close enough for me to do it.

Can I come over?

 

[Cattlegod]

Originally posted by: DAGTA

Originally posted by: mobobuff
Would anything relating to that explain why, in near complete silence, an audible yet very quiet high pitched noise can be heard when a person approaches your proximity but you aren't visually aware of their presence?

Also, what is the sound of complete silence? Say you're sitting in a sealed room far underground, nothing is around to be making noise, but you can still hear fuzz, and you can even draw patterns from the modulations in the sounds... there's still perceptable background noise. Or could this just be explained by the inefficiency of human ears and auditory system?

Perhaps, when a person nears your proximity, something relatively subconcious says "I detect a presence" and then proceeds to boost auditory preception? So much like the noise emitted by a guitar amplifier when the volume is maxed yet no input is defined, you hear a fuzzy tone? But this wouldn't explain patterns in the noise.

I don't have the answers to your questions. The only thing I can add to your post is that it is possible for one person's energy field (electromagnetic, aura, whatever you want to name it) to interact with another person's field. I can prove this, too, but a person has to be close enough for me to do it.

is this some special ability you have or is this something you can teach someone? if you can teach it, type out how to do it.

 

[DAGTA]

Originally posted by: remagavon

Originally posted by: DAGTA

Originally posted by: mobobuff
Would anything relating to that explain why, in near complete silence, an audible yet very quiet high pitched noise can be heard when a person approaches your proximity but you aren't visually aware of their presence?

Also, what is the sound of complete silence? Say you're sitting in a sealed room far underground, nothing is around to be making noise, but you can still hear fuzz, and you can even draw patterns from the modulations in the sounds... there's still perceptable background noise. Or could this just be explained by the inefficiency of human ears and auditory system?

Perhaps, when a person nears your proximity, something relatively subconcious says "I detect a presence" and then proceeds to boost auditory preception? So much like the noise emitted by a guitar amplifier when the volume is maxed yet no input is defined, you hear a fuzzy tone? But this wouldn't explain patterns in the noise.

I don't have the answers to your questions. The only thing I can add to your post is that it is possible for one person's energy field (electromagnetic, aura, whatever you want to name it) to interact with another person's field. I can prove this, too, but a person has to be close enough for me to do it.

Can I come over?

I'm willing to meet people to show this test.

 

[remagavon]

Originally posted by: Cattlegod

Originally posted by: DAGTA

Originally posted by: mobobuff
Would anything relating to that explain why, in near complete silence, an audible yet very quiet high pitched noise can be heard when a person approaches your proximity but you aren't visually aware of their presence?

Also, what is the sound of complete silence? Say you're sitting in a sealed room far underground, nothing is around to be making noise, but you can still hear fuzz, and you can even draw patterns from the modulations in the sounds... there's still perceptable background noise. Or could this just be explained by the inefficiency of human ears and auditory system?

Perhaps, when a person nears your proximity, something relatively subconcious says "I detect a presence" and then proceeds to boost auditory preception? So much like the noise emitted by a guitar amplifier when the volume is maxed yet no input is defined, you hear a fuzzy tone? But this wouldn't explain patterns in the noise.

I don't have the answers to your questions. The only thing I can add to your post is that it is possible for one person's energy field (electromagnetic, aura, whatever you want to name it) to interact with another person's field. I can prove this, too, but a person has to be close enough for me to do it.

is this some special ability you have or is this something you can teach someone? if you can teach it, type out how to do it.

:thumbsup:

I'm exceedingly curious as well. Even if you can't describe how any more information is welcome.

 

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: DAGTA

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: DAGTA

I've witnessed it happen to me and other people. I've also noticed that it does happen more often with a pair that is attracted to each other than a single person.

No, you haven't.

Usually people that think this is happening to them are just bad at solving problems, so they never find out the real cause and attibute it to something unrelated.

Nice of you to attempt to speak for me.

One story for you:
A woman I was interested in, and was interested in me, had high blood pressure. I had known her for a while and was concerned so I talked her into visiting my doctor. He attempted to read her blood pressure with an electronic machine. It consistently gave an ERROR when he tried to use it on her. He tried it on me, same thing.

Next time she went to visit him, it worked fine.

A month later, I went with her again. Again, the machine read ERROR. This time I laughed and said, "Let me leave the room." I walked out of the room and to the reception area. Immediately, the doctor yelled out that the machine was working. He asked me for an explanation, I declined.

Two more times she went on her own and it worked fine.

A third time I went with her. Again, the machine read ERROR. The doctor told me to leave the room. I walked about 40 feet away and he yells out that the machine was now working.

Consistent and replicable. Yes, I finally gave the explanation to the doctor and... guess what? he believed it.

BS.

Your lack of analytical thinking ability is not proof of your shaky beliefs.

 

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: DAGTA
As for dice: I was once able to do the same thing. I could play Monopoly and 'will' the dice to roll what I desired about 50% of the time. Considering there are 11 possible numerical outcomes with two dice, 50% success is far above statistical probablity. My friend Dave actually quit playing Monopoly with me after I showed him that I could do that. For some reason, I stopped being able to do that some years ago.

Computers... I had a tech support position three years ago. There was one woman that worked in our office who would have severe computer issues anytime she was stressed. She was part time and shared the computer with another woman. It wouldn't have problems with the other woman.

The only trend I see in all of this is that you consistently believe in pseudoscience and other crap like it.

 

[DAGTA]

It's not a special ability. Anyone can learn to do the test.

First, you need to learn about Kinesiology. Power Vs. Force by Dr. David Hawkins addresses that in depth.

The basics of the test: One person holds his/her right arm out at a 90 degree angle from the body while standing and looking straight ahead. This person is instructed to stare out a window or at a wall and attempt to clear his/her mind. He/she is to hold his/her arm firm. The second person will apply pressure to the arm using two fingers or all fingers on his/her left arm. Be sure the arm that is held up by person #1 is firm and person #2 cannot easily push it down. Person #2 needs to also attempt to clear his/her mind and focus only on the question being asked without assuming any answer. Person #2 then asks Person #1 a question that has a simple and concise answer (yes/no answers work best). Person #1 answers while Person #2 pressures the arm. If the arm remains firm, the truth has been told. If the arm goes weak, the truth has not been told.

It takes some practice and it does work easier on some people than others (due to electrical interference, scar tissue, emotions, etc).

An easy way to test to see if a person is 'testable' is to intentionally interact with that person's electrical field (as I mentioned a few posts earlier). With Person #1 in the arm ready stance, Person #2 should apply pressure and make sure the arm is firm. While applying pressure, Person #2 places his/her right hand, palm open and towards the stomach of Person #1 within about 2 inches of Person #1's solar plexus. This will temporarily reverse the polarity of Person #1's electrical aura (it's a short circuit). Person #1's arm will immediately go weak.

When first attempting the test, use easy questions with obvious answers. Such as, "What is your first name?" "What color is my shirt?" "Are you male?" Be careful with the name... If your name is Joseph and you answer 'Joe', you will go weak as that's not really your name. Figured that out with my mother when she answered "Debi" instead of "Debra".

Again, for MUCH more information, read Power Vs. Force. This post only barely scratches the surface. The test can be used to find out anything... if used properly and with good intentions.

 

[DAGTA]

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: DAGTA

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: DAGTA

I've witnessed it happen to me and other people. I've also noticed that it does happen more often with a pair that is attracted to each other than a single person.

No, you haven't.

Usually people that think this is happening to them are just bad at solving problems, so they never find out the real cause and attibute it to something unrelated.

Nice of you to attempt to speak for me.

One story for you:
A woman I was interested in, and was interested in me, had high blood pressure. I had known her for a while and was concerned so I talked her into visiting my doctor. He attempted to read her blood pressure with an electronic machine. It consistently gave an ERROR when he tried to use it on her. He tried it on me, same thing.

Next time she went to visit him, it worked fine.

A month later, I went with her again. Again, the machine read ERROR. This time I laughed and said, "Let me leave the room." I walked out of the room and to the reception area. Immediately, the doctor yelled out that the machine was working. He asked me for an explanation, I declined.

Two more times she went on her own and it worked fine.

A third time I went with her. Again, the machine read ERROR. The doctor told me to leave the room. I walked about 40 feet away and he yells out that the machine was now working.

Consistent and replicable. Yes, I finally gave the explanation to the doctor and... guess what? he believed it.

BS.

Your lack of analytical thinking ability is not proof of your shaky beliefs.

haha, would you like to see my college achievements to 'prove' I have analytical thinking abilities or would you still feel the need to attack me in order to hide your irrational fear of the unknown?

 

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: DAGTA

haha, would you like to see my college achievements to 'prove' I have analytical thinking abilities or would you still feel the need to attack me in order to hide your irrational fear of the unknown?

Your college achievements say nothing other than the fact that you spent the time to do it.

There are PhD's out there who say the wackiest crap. Just because they got the degree doesn't mean they're not crazy. Hell, the Unabomber was more educated than just about everyone in here. He was still a lunatic, though.

 

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: DAGTA
It's not a special ability. Anyone can learn to do the test.

First, you need to learn about Kinesiology. Power Vs. Force by Dr. David Hawkins addresses that in depth.

The basics of the test: One person holds his/her right arm out at a 90 degree angle from the body while standing and looking straight ahead. This person is instructed to stare out a window or at a wall and attempt to clear his/her mind. He/she is to hold his/her arm firm. The second person will apply pressure to the arm using two fingers or all fingers on his/her left arm. Be sure the arm that is held up by person #1 is firm and person #2 cannot easily push it down. Person #2 needs to also attempt to clear his/her mind and focus only on the question being asked without assuming any answer. Person #2 then asks Person #1 a question that has a simple and concise answer (yes/no answers work best). Person #1 answers while Person #2 pressures the arm. If the arm remains firm, the truth has been told. If the arm goes weak, the truth has not been told.

It takes some practice and it does work easier on some people than others (due to electrical interference, scar tissue, emotions, etc).

An easy way to test to see if a person is 'testable' is to intentionally interact with that person's electrical field (as I mentioned a few posts earlier). With Person #1 in the arm ready stance, Person #2 should apply pressure and make sure the arm is firm. While applying pressure, Person #2 places his/her right hand, palm open and towards the stomach of Person #1 within about 2 inches of Person #1's solar plexus. This will temporarily reverse the polarity of Person #1's electrical aura (it's a short circuit). Person #1's arm will immediately go weak.

When first attempting the test, use easy questions with obvious answers. Such as, "What is your first name?" "What color is my shirt?" "Are you male?" Be careful with the name... If your name is Joseph and you answer 'Joe', you will go weak as that's not really your name. Figured that out with my mother when she answered "Debi" instead of "Debra".

Again, for MUCH more information, read Power Vs. Force. This post only barely scratches the surface. The test can be used to find out anything... if used properly and with good intentions.

It's a shame that you openly believe this stuff. On one hand you claim to be sane, then on the other hand you're admitting that you fall hook, line, and sinker for pseudoscience. Quite a shame.

 

[DAGTA]

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: DAGTA

haha, would you like to see my college achievements to 'prove' I have analytical thinking abilities or would you still feel the need to attack me in order to hide your irrational fear of the unknown?

Your college achievements say nothing other than the fact that you spent the time to do it.

There are PhD's out there who say the wackiest crap. Just because they got the degree doesn't mean they're not crazy. Hell, the Unabomber was more educated than just about everyone in here. He was still a lunatic, though.

Exactly how I figured you would answer. You've already closed your mind and decided that nothing can be real unless it's spoonfed to you by some special agency run by a certain gov't. What makes you place so much faith in that agency or that gov't? If you really think about that, you'll find the answer is simply that you've been raised in an environment that has conditioned you to ONLY believe what you are told from 'officials' who are simply people put into a job that you are not in.

Anyway, attempting to debate with you is now pointless since you've shown that your mind is closed.

 

[remagavon]

Originally posted by: DAGTA

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: DAGTA

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: DAGTA

I've witnessed it happen to me and other people. I've also noticed that it does happen more often with a pair that is attracted to each other than a single person.

No, you haven't.

Usually people that think this is happening to them are just bad at solving problems, so they never find out the real cause and attibute it to something unrelated.

Nice of you to attempt to speak for me.

One story for you:
A woman I was interested in, and was interested in me, had high blood pressure. I had known her for a while and was concerned so I talked her into visiting my doctor. He attempted to read her blood pressure with an electronic machine. It consistently gave an ERROR when he tried to use it on her. He tried it on me, same thing.

Next time she went to visit him, it worked fine.

A month later, I went with her again. Again, the machine read ERROR. This time I laughed and said, "Let me leave the room." I walked out of the room and to the reception area. Immediately, the doctor yelled out that the machine was working. He asked me for an explanation, I declined.

Two more times she went on her own and it worked fine.

A third time I went with her. Again, the machine read ERROR. The doctor told me to leave the room. I walked about 40 feet away and he yells out that the machine was now working.

Consistent and replicable. Yes, I finally gave the explanation to the doctor and... guess what? he believed it.

BS.

Your lack of analytical thinking ability is not proof of your shaky beliefs.

haha, would you like to see my college achievements to 'prove' I have analytical thinking abilities or would you still feel the need to attack me in order to hide your irrational fear of the unknown?

People will be judgmental regardless. Thanks for replying.. oddly enough I know a chiropractor that did that exact thing you mentioned.. not sure what he gets at with it.

 

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: DAGTA

Exactly how I figured you would answer. You've already closed your mind and decided that nothing can be real unless it's spoonfed to you by some special agency run by a certain gov't. What makes you place so much faith in that agency or that gov't? If you really think about that, you'll find the answer is simply that you've been raised in an environment that has conditioned you to ONLY believe what you are told from 'officials' who are simply people put into a job that you are not in.

Anyway, attempting to debate with you is now pointless since you've shown that your mind is closed.

Ah yes- the typical conspiracy theorist argument. It's the "government" telling me what to thing. I'm not "open minded" because the "agency" doesn't approve of it.

Maybe you can lend me your tinfoil hat so I can break free of the secret black government agency mind control.

 

[DAGTA]

Originally posted by: remagavon

Originally posted by: DAGTA

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: DAGTA

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: DAGTA

I've witnessed it happen to me and other people. I've also noticed that it does happen more often with a pair that is attracted to each other than a single person.

No, you haven't.

Usually people that think this is happening to them are just bad at solving problems, so they never find out the real cause and attibute it to something unrelated.

Nice of you to attempt to speak for me.

One story for you:
A woman I was interested in, and was interested in me, had high blood pressure. I had known her for a while and was concerned so I talked her into visiting my doctor. He attempted to read her blood pressure with an electronic machine. It consistently gave an ERROR when he tried to use it on her. He tried it on me, same thing.

Next time she went to visit him, it worked fine.

A month later, I went with her again. Again, the machine read ERROR. This time I laughed and said, "Let me leave the room." I walked out of the room and to the reception area. Immediately, the doctor yelled out that the machine was working. He asked me for an explanation, I declined.

Two more times she went on her own and it worked fine.

A third time I went with her. Again, the machine read ERROR. The doctor told me to leave the room. I walked about 40 feet away and he yells out that the machine was now working.

Consistent and replicable. Yes, I finally gave the explanation to the doctor and... guess what? he believed it.

BS.

Your lack of analytical thinking ability is not proof of your shaky beliefs.

haha, would you like to see my college achievements to 'prove' I have analytical thinking abilities or would you still feel the need to attack me in order to hide your irrational fear of the unknown?

People will be judgmental regardless. Thanks for replying.. oddly enough I know a chiropractor that did that exact thing you mentioned.. not sure what he gets at with it.

Many chiropractors learn it. The test can be used for anything... it can be used to find problems in the body, allergies, bones out of alignment, nutritional deficiencies, etc.