Milo Yiannopoulos, has officially opened up a college scholarship exclusively for young white men.

[MongGrel]

Shhh....that's dirty little secret. Dont tell anyone.

You're so confused you do not know what direction you are going 😛

 

[MongGrel]

Watching the news today, I just realized something... This is a HUGE victory for Milo. Cable news has been running clips from his talks, interviews and staged protests non stop for 48 hours straight. He just hit mainstream.

Pretty sad isn't it.

 

[Bitek]

Was his target audience mostly consisting of apologists though? It seemed to me like his primary audience at any given moment were the ones who'd have no problem doing the same sort of trolling as he is. At this given moment, I doubt that many neo-nazis want to be apologising for paedophiles. Perhaps he'll have to start writing troll pieces with NAMBLA as his audience?

Perhaps I just don't have that much exposure to alt-right cheerleaders these days. This forum had some for a little while, but (seemingly to me) since those videos came out about Richard Spencer that obviously showed him to be a neo-nazi, the alt-right cheerleading seems to have quietened down somewhat?

His target audience mostly consisted of trolls and assholes, not those normally considered paragons of virtue.

Milo trolls libs and people with a sense of decency for lulz. The assholes will miss his lulz and will get over the comments or just downplay them. He will come back with a chip on his shoulder, esp to prove even pedophilia is not offensive enough to shut him down (which is his ultimate prerogative.)

It's not like conservative personalities haven't been declared dead before due to controversy only to make a comeback. I'm giving it less than a yr.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Pretty sad isn't it.

I'm a bit torn on good ol' milo, part of me says to ignore him, he's a punk poseur who probably doesn't mean half of what he says, yet says it to create a buzz, and get attention. It's the hateful rhetoric that makes me want to say something, to bring to light his ignorance and bigotry. Ultimately he'll be a footnote at most (if those things exist in the future) and as relevant as yakov smirnoff

 

[MongGrel]

I'm a bit torn on good ol' milo, part of me says to ignore him, he's a punk poseur who probably doesn't mean half of what he says, yet says it to create a buzz, and get attention. It's the hateful rhetoric that makes me want to say something, to bring to light his ignorance and bigotry. Ultimately he'll be a footnote at most (if those things exist in the future) and as relevant as yakov smirnoff

He just seems like a gay Kellyanne poseur wannabe in the Trump chain to me.

Like I said a few days ago, I thought it would be amusing if he became press secretary for Trump once he throws Spicer under the bus.

I'll just call that a far fetched prediction at the moment, hell, I'd say odder things are already going on atm.

 

[Bitek]

I also think the main reason he got booted from Breitbart is that Bannon is in the White House and the Trump admin has enough problems without getting connected to a loony, loudmouth Eurotrash pedophile.

Don't think it's bc Breitbart has suddenly grown a conscious.

 

[desura]

Hate to be one of those "please read" types, but this is a thoughtful look at both Milo's fall from grace this week as well as an inside look at his staff during the ill-fated Berkeley lecture:

On the Milo Bus With the Lost Boys of America’s New Right

And be sure to read through to the end if you're going to look, even if you're on Milo's side... it shows aspects of him that you may not be familiar with, since the writer knows him outside of his on-the-record media presence. It's more nuanced than you might think.

Surprise, his entourage is primarily barely-adult-age men. No, not for that, it's that they're classic Milo supporters: young, immature, intellectually wounded guys who see this almost as a game and haven't really had to face consequences for their actions. And Milo's downfall isn't because of the left, it's because the right was willing to tolerate a gay advocate for its causes up until he seemed to validate their prejudices (the truth, of course, is more complex).

Meh, I could probably write a similar sarcastic writeup if I were embedded with HRC's campaign. It's kind of a common journalist tactic to write these things.

 

[desura]

He just seems like a gay Kellyanne poseur wannabe in the Trump chain to me.

Like I said a few days ago, I thought it would be amusing if he became press secretary for Trump once he throws Spicer under the bus.

I'll just call that a far fetched prediction at the moment, hell, I'd say odder things are already going on atm.

I heard that rumor too.

I mean, he does have the free time now. I would love love love to see him as press secretary. It would be the best thing ever. And I didn't vote Trump...

 

[bshole]

Firebrand Milo quits Breitbart News after child sex remarks

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-conservatives-yiannopoulos-idUSKBN1602LV

Now he's a victim 🙄

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-conservatives-yiannopoulos-idUSKBN1602LV

I wonder where he may land.

He was molested by a priest as a child. That certainly meets my criteria for a victim. I think that molestation had devastating consequences for Milo. I believe he would he a much different person today if not for that victimization.

Personally I think the priest who did this should be in prison. Many victims become predators later on in life.

 

[Bitek]

Hate to be one of those "please read" types, but this is a thoughtful look at both Milo's fall from grace this week as well as an inside look at his staff during the ill-fated Berkeley lecture:

On the Milo Bus With the Lost Boys of America’s New Right

And be sure to read through to the end if you're going to look, even if you're on Milo's side... it shows aspects of him that you may not be familiar with, since the writer knows him outside of his on-the-record media presence. It's more nuanced than you might think.

Surprise, his entourage is primarily barely-adult-age men. No, not for that, it's that they're classic Milo supporters: young, immature, intellectually wounded guys who see this almost as a game and haven't really had to face consequences for their actions. And Milo's downfall isn't because of the left, it's because the right was willing to tolerate a gay advocate for its causes up until he seemed to validate their prejudices (the truth, of course, is more complex).

Read. Interesting piece. Thanks for the link.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Hate to be one of those "please read" types, but this is a thoughtful look at both Milo's fall from grace this week as well as an inside look at his staff during the ill-fated Berkeley lecture:

On the Milo Bus With the Lost Boys of America’s New Right

And be sure to read through to the end if you're going to look, even if you're on Milo's side... it shows aspects of him that you may not be familiar with, since the writer knows him outside of his on-the-record media presence. It's more nuanced than you might think.

Surprise, his entourage is primarily barely-adult-age men. No, not for that, it's that they're classic Milo supporters: young, immature, intellectually wounded guys who see this almost as a game and haven't really had to face consequences for their actions. And Milo's downfall isn't because of the left, it's because the right was willing to tolerate a gay advocate for its causes up until he seemed to validate their prejudices (the truth, of course, is more complex).

lol this is such horseshit.

"Free speech does not extend to hate speech"
"Mike Brown did nothing wrong"
"The man shot at Seattle was a victim"

Milo's a troll and an advocate of pederasty, but he's still less of a fascist and less of a danger than the far-left in our country.

 

[Victorian Gray]

Hate to be one of those "please read" types, but this is a thoughtful look at both Milo's fall from grace this week as well as an inside look at his staff during the ill-fated Berkeley lecture:

On the Milo Bus With the Lost Boys of America’s New Right

And be sure to read through to the end if you're going to look, even if you're on Milo's side... it shows aspects of him that you may not be familiar with, since the writer knows him outside of his on-the-record media presence. It's more nuanced than you might think.

Surprise, his entourage is primarily barely-adult-age men. No, not for that, it's that they're classic Milo supporters: young, immature, intellectually wounded guys who see this almost as a game and haven't really had to face consequences for their actions. And Milo's downfall isn't because of the left, it's because the right was willing to tolerate a gay advocate for its causes up until he seemed to validate their prejudices (the truth, of course, is more complex).

Interesting article, thanks.

 

[MongGrel]

He was molested by a priest as a child. That certainly meets my criteria for a victim. I think that molestation had devastating consequences for Milo. I believe he would he a much different person today if not for that victimization.

Personally I think the priest who did this should be in prison. Many victims become predators later on in life.

Heh, yeah ok.

 

[MrSquished]

Milo was brought down by a few conservatives, the Reagan Battalion

https://mic.com/articles/169118/exc...tm_medium=main&utm_campaign=social#.9S7KHmMFB

 

[Commodus]

lol this is such horseshit.

"Free speech does not extend to hate speech"
"Mike Brown did nothing wrong"
"The man shot at Seattle was a victim"

Milo's a troll and an advocate of pederasty, but he's still less of a fascist and less of a danger than the far-left in our country.

To me, free speech crosses a line when you advocate harassment or threats, which Milo has done (even if just by stoking anger knowing what the response will be). I'd say Mike Brown and the Seattle victim weren't innocent doves, but what happened to them wasn't warranted.

And I don't think the US has much of a far left, really, certainly not Laurie Penny (she's British, for one thing). Far left in the classic sense is communism; much of what constitutes left-wing in the US is actually moderate or centrist on the world stage. However, the US definitely has a problem with the far right... arguably, some of it's in office right now.

 

[preslove]

The guy was banned from twitter for inciting a harassment campaign against a black actress that compared her to gorillas. WTF?

Only deeply disturbed people could ever support that bigot.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

To me, free speech crosses a line when you advocate harassment or threats, which Milo has done (even if just by stoking anger knowing what the response will be). I'd say Mike Brown and the Seattle victim weren't innocent doves, but what happened to them wasn't warranted.

And I don't think the US has much of a far left, really, certainly not Laurie Penny (she's British, for one thing). Far left in the classic sense is communism; much of what constitutes left-wing in the US is actually moderate or centrist on the world stage. However, the US definitely has a problem with the far right... arguably, some of it's in office right now.

Examples please (no, calling someone illiterate over Twitter doesn't count).

The danger that the right-wing presents is the same danger they've had since their rebirth under Reagan. One could argue that they've done far more damage than the far-left and I'm not sure I could even disagree, but they're not the brownshirts people have nightmares about, they're clean-shaven, calm-voiced warmongers and profiteers. The supposed rise of right-wing fascism in recent years is a phenomenon limited to anonymous internet forums, i.e. it doesn't really exist. In the context of thugs carrying weapons and actively suppressing speech with violence, the left-wing in the form of ANTIFA wins hands down. Thankfully only the left coast tolerates them to any degree.

The guy was banned from twitter for inciting a harassment campaign against a black actress that compared her to gorillas. WTF?

Only deeply disturbed people could ever support that bigot.

It started before Milo joined in, and he never called her a gorilla.

 

[imported_bman]

Hate to be one of those "please read" types, but this is a thoughtful look at both Milo's fall from grace this week as well as an inside look at his staff during the ill-fated Berkeley lecture:

On the Milo Bus With the Lost Boys of America’s New Right

And be sure to read through to the end if you're going to look, even if you're on Milo's side... it shows aspects of him that you may not be familiar with, since the writer knows him outside of his on-the-record media presence. It's more nuanced than you might think.

Surprise, his entourage is primarily barely-adult-age men. No, not for that, it's that they're classic Milo supporters: young, immature, intellectually wounded guys who see this almost as a game and haven't really had to face consequences for their actions. And Milo's downfall isn't because of the left, it's because the right was willing to tolerate a gay advocate for its causes up until he seemed to validate their prejudices (the truth, of course, is more complex).

Terrible article, how can you call this nuanced. It is full of idiotic characterizations that are obviously meant to demean the people she is 'reporting' on, a false consciousness argument is essentially used to dismiss any concerns that the 'lost boys' might have, and it laced with all sorts of ridiculous assertions. The narrative that Milo supporters/fans don't know he is troll is laughable. She conflates the reasonable expectation of these 'lost boys' that free speech should be shielded from violence with a projected belief that free speech has no consequences. I could go on ripping this article apart.

The peddling of this type of polemical garbage that tries to masquerades as analysis is why I have a such a low opinion of the media, much of the chattering class, and a significant chunk of academia. Granted this article is from social justice bard Laurie Penny, ironic or not that title still betrays her partiality to the radical left. The Trump problem is not going away until the media starts being far more restrained by editorial standards and when the moderate left starts policing its own fringes, expect four more year in 2020...

 

[mikeymikec]

The narrative that Milo supporters/fans don't know he is troll is laughable.

There are even people on this thread who talk about him telling valuable truths ('valuable' implied). And the guy who invited him to the CPAC conference said something pretty similar, and the load of other people who have invited him to speak elsewhere, with the obvious implication that he had something worthy of note to say.

I think you overestimate his intended audience somewhat.

 

[theeedude]

LOL, moderate left isn't going to police anything, There is no daylight on the left when it comes to resisting Trump and GOP 100%. Re-electing Trump in 2020 will do GOP about as much good as re-electing Bush in 2004 did, just make the eventual crisis worse, and do more damage to the country and the Republican party. But don't count on someone as nice as Obama to replace Trump.

 

[agent00f]

Examples please (no, calling someone illiterate over Twitter doesn't count).

The danger that the right-wing presents is the same danger they've had since their rebirth under Reagan. One could argue that they've done far more damage than the far-left and I'm not sure I could even disagree, but they're not the brownshirts people have nightmares about, they're clean-shaven, calm-voiced warmongers and profiteers. The supposed rise of right-wing fascism in recent years is a phenomenon limited to anonymous internet forums, i.e. it doesn't really exist. In the context of thugs carrying weapons and actively suppressing speech with violence, the left-wing in the form of ANTIFA wins hands down. Thankfully only the left coast tolerates them to any degree.

It started before Milo joined in, and he never called her a gorilla.

Quantitative reality doesn't support your claims. ANTIFA and such are a tiny minority while the kind of people who'd elect some complete degenerate with no remorse are a plurality.

This is basically the same case as muslim terrorism. Surely if every muslim were a terrorist they'd be a bigger problem than trump voters, but the problem is every trump voter is a trump voter.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

On the pedo thing, someone found a video where Bill Maher strongly defended a 35 year old woman having sex with a 14 year old boy, lol. At least conservatives are consistently homophobic.

Quantitative reality doesn't support your claims. ANTIFA and such are a tiny minority while the kind of people who'd elect some complete degenerate with no remorse are a plurality.

This is basically the same case as muslim terrorism. Surely if every muslim were a terrorist they'd be a bigger problem than trump voters, but the problem is every trump voter is a trump voter.

In the context of thugs carrying weapons and actively suppressing speech with violence. I've already acknowledged that those in power do the most harm of all, but right-wing violence is usually terroristic, not thuggish.

 

[HomerJS]

I also think the main reason he got booted from Breitbart is that Bannon is in the White House and the Trump admin has enough problems without getting connected to a loony, loudmouth Eurotrash pedophile.

Don't think it's bc Breitbart has suddenly grown a conscious.

Right about that. He might have survived but CPAC is coming soon and there would be too much publicity. Sunlight is a wonderful thing.

 

[PingviN]

Hate to be one of those "please read" types, but this is a thoughtful look at both Milo's fall from grace this week as well as an inside look at his staff during the ill-fated Berkeley lecture:

On the Milo Bus With the Lost Boys of America’s New Right

And be sure to read through to the end if you're going to look, even if you're on Milo's side... it shows aspects of him that you may not be familiar with, since the writer knows him outside of his on-the-record media presence. It's more nuanced than you might think.

Surprise, his entourage is primarily barely-adult-age men. No, not for that, it's that they're classic Milo supporters: young, immature, intellectually wounded guys who see this almost as a game and haven't really had to face consequences for their actions. And Milo's downfall isn't because of the left, it's because the right was willing to tolerate a gay advocate for its causes up until he seemed to validate their prejudices (the truth, of course, is more complex).

I don't care for Milo or your president, but this was some or the absolute worst writing I have read for a long time.

 

[mikeymikec]

He was molested by a priest as a child. That certainly meets my criteria for a victim. I think that molestation had devastating consequences for Milo. I believe he would he a much different person today if not for that victimization.

Personally I think the priest who did this should be in prison. Many victims become predators later on in life.

If he was molested by a priest, then yes he was once a victim. If so, the fact that he referred to his teenage self as being a sexual predator suggests that he does not subscribe to the notion that most adults do that minors do not have the capacity to consent, which makes it more likely that he has become a predator of children himself once he became an adult. Also, he's basically stated that he's witnessed other paedophiles in action and so is protecting their identities and helping to cover up their abuses.

If he wasn't molested by a priest, he has said some incredibly fucked-up things about sexual abuse victims (and a tonne of other things). Whether he believes what he says makes little difference to me, I think he's a moral sewer either way.

Whether he was abused as a child makes no difference to his actions now. The only thing he probably hates himself for is that he felt obliged to apologise for the shit he said on this occasion, rather than the damage it will inevitably do (aside from his career, I'm sure he's sorry about that).

I personally call bullshit on his apology, whatever the truth of the matter is. Imagine stating for the record that you're a sexual abuse victim and apologising for all the shit you said on that topic, and apologising to your parents for them finding out this way, and not seeking to bring your abuser (or any abusers you've witnessed) to justice? Furthermore, he even pulls a Trump tactic and starts attacking his accusers for calling him out on the paedo-ish things he's said and accusing them of not caring about children! What a hypocrite.

Maybe if he sold out some paedophiles and checked himself into therapy and reformed his lifestyle into something that resembles a vaguely decent human being then I might believe an apology from him. All he's done here is a damage limitation exercise (which in no way resembles remorse or attempting to make amends), and he'll be back to his usual shit as soon as he can.

How on earth someone can be a victim of their own explicit statements (which is what some people on this thread have been attempting to argue) is something that only Milo supporters can manage to rationalise to themselves: Somehow it's someone else's fault that Milo said all these things. Isn't that the victim mentality that people like Milo love to make fun of?